Ubuntu 24.04 LTS released

[W1zzard]

give the best NginX/openresty performance

I bet once you remove some of the junk, set the proper configs, things will be different. Ubuntu defaults to powersave governor, what's the status of mitigations on these other distros? I'd claim at the end of the day, when properly optimized, any modern Linux will be similar in performance for such mid-sized loads... and if you don't optimize things you're either running low enough load or spending company money

 

[SchumannFrequency]

I bet once you remove some of the junk, set the proper configs, things will be different. Ubuntu defaults to powersave governor, what's the status of mitigations on these other distros? I'd claim at the end of the day, when properly optimized, any modern Linux will be similar in performance for such mid-sized loads... and if you don't optimize things you're either running low enough load or spending company money

When I install openSUSE Tumbleweed I try to do it fairly cleanly but I see that the end result is always about as bloated as Ubuntu or maybe even more packages are installed. For Clear Linux I don't know how bloated the server image is compared to the desktop image. But the desktop image is not particularly lightweight either. You can probably also tweak the configs of openSUSE and Clear Linux for extra performance. In terms of mitigations, I don't think Ubuntu is better than Intel's own distro or (open)SUSE, both of which have extra and more competent devs than Canonical.

You may have a better idea of how much OpenResty is using your server's CPU and how much PHP is using your CPU. But PHP seems to be dramatically faster on Clear Linux compared to Ubuntu:

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=2205127-NE-XEONLINUX78&sha=f21e05094901&p=2

According to curl, your server uses PHP/7.4.33, which has not received security fixes for a while. But I don't know how reliable my curl info about the TPU server is.
I don't think these old PHP versions are usable in FreeBSD anymore.

In terms of power consumption, it is possible that Ubuntu is the most efficient, but perhaps not if you look at performance/watts. I personally think Linux should have better tooling to measure power consumption and the built-in tools like powertop don't really feel reliable and don't really give me the data I want to know. Measuring the power consumption at the power grid seems to me to be the best method, but who has recent and reliable data on this?

I also think that NginX has always been faster on FreeBSD than on Linux. Netflix still uses FreeBSD because according to their tests they get better performance on it.

nginx на Linux vs nginx на FreeBSD

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www.linux.org.ru

It is true that NginX, like PostgreSQL, was initially developed primarily for FreeBSD.
And FreeBSD has the faster network stack and kqueue (= performance advantage).

Back when Yandex still used FreeBSD, their download/upload speeds were much faster than Google's Debian servers, if you remember that era.

Specific to NginX you can indeed say that the differences between Linux distributions are not very great, but in Apache Ubuntu seems to be completely blown off the map by every other system with the exception of Debian:

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=2205127-NE-XEONLINUX78&sha=adbfdc101379&p=2

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=2205127-NE-XEONLINUX78&sha=dfcd2fe2a651&p=2

https://openbenchmarking.org/embed.php?i=2205127-NE-XEONLINUX78&sha=6be09cb4f08a&p=2

 

[Space Lynx]

Why do i get this pop up every time I try to mount Ubuntu onto a flash drive with rufus? I don't understand, why not just make it more intuitive than this, latest version Ubnutu iso and latest version of Rufus... why make users click yes here, when they could just include the right file to begin with?

 

[SchumannFrequency]

Why do i get this pop up every time I try to mount Ubuntu onto a flash drive with rufus? I don't understand, why not just make it more intuitive than this, latest version Ubnutu iso and latest version of Rufus... why make users click yes here, when they could just include the right file to begin with?

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Because Rufus is less well put together than some alternative tools that are available.
I think balenaEtcher simulates the dd command, which is the method that always works. It will (almost) always work perfectly via balenaEtcher.

balenaEtcher - Flash OS images to SD cards & USB drives

A cross-platform tool to flash OS images onto SD cards and USB drives safely and easily. Free and open source for makers around the world.

etcher.balena.io

 

[Space Lynx]

Because Rufus is less well put together than some alternative tools that are available.
I think balenaEtcher simulates the dd command, which is the method that always works. It will (almost) always work perfectly via balenaEtcher.

balenaEtcher - Flash OS images to SD cards & USB drives

A cross-platform tool to flash OS images onto SD cards and USB drives safely and easily. Free and open source for makers around the world.

etcher.balena.io

every time i use balenaetcher on windows to install ubuntu i can never see anything in the driver after that... it takes over the entire flash drive, really annoying so i stick with rufus

 

[SchumannFrequency]

every time i use balenaetcher on windows to install ubuntu i can never see anything in the driver after that... it takes over the entire flash drive, really annoying so i stick with rufus

I have three different USB sticks and I don't really care.
I think USB sticks have become cheap enough that you can buy three or more for a cheap 'total price'.

 

[Shihab]

Waiting for the 1 month mark before installing.

I'm probably going to start upgrading my desktop, mainly because I need a fresh start on it, but I really want to see this version on my laptop. I need the new Gnome remote login feature! I miss Windows days when I could RDP to a machine without having to walk over to it and manually log in every bloody time!

 

[SomeOne99h]

Why do i get this pop up every time I try to mount Ubuntu onto a flash drive with rufus? I don't understand, why not just make it more intuitive than this, latest version Ubnutu iso and latest version of Rufus... why make users click yes here, when they could just include the right file to begin with?

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Because that version of Grub might be newer than Rufus .. or something like that.
The new beta 4.5 version fixes this I think:

rufus/ChangeLog.txt at master · pbatard/rufus

The Reliable USB Formatting Utility. Contribute to pbatard/rufus development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

You can download the beta in the home page of Rufus.

 

[Space Lynx]

Waiting for the 1 month mark before installing.

I'm probably going to start upgrading my desktop, mainly because I need a fresh start on it, but I really want to see this version on my laptop. I need the new Gnome remote login feature! I miss Windows days when I could RDP to a machine without having to walk over to it and manually log in every bloody time!

my install def got corrupted and I think I know why, I was downloading it at exactly when it launched, and it took liek 2 hours to download cause everyone was downloading it at the same time, so something must have just happened at that 500 kilobyte speed lol

i knew something was wrong, because when i went to the apps section to manually update it within ubuntu, it kept saying error store out of date, but wouldn't let me update anything, it was stuck and broke

then steam wouldn't let me uninstall games. strange.

anyways, i just did a re-download and install and everything is fine now.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

You don't need the beta version for Ubuntu 24.04 with GPT. It's OK with Rufus 4.4.

Just got Noble installed on my Comet Lake build. (MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk, Core i5 10600K, AData XPG Spectrix D41 2x8GB and Western Digital Black SN750 500 GB)

 

[Shihab]

my install def got corrupted and I think I know why, I was downloading it at exactly when it launched, and it took liek 2 hours to download cause everyone was downloading it at the same time, so something must have just happened at that 500 kilobyte speed lol

When in doubt, md5sum -c hashlist.md5

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

When in doubt, md5sum -c hashlist.md5

Well, even SHA1 apparently is at risk of false-good readings, so very many now are using SHA256.

We still have some using MD5, but MD5 is supposed to have gone the way of old-style DSL!

 

[Shihab]

Well, even SHA1 apparently is at risk of false-good readings, so very many now are using SHA256.

We still have some using MD5, but MD5 is supposed to have gone the way of old-style DSL!

Against explicit attempts at cheating checksums? perhaps. But for a bit erroneously flipped in-transmission? One would have to be extremely unlucky, I'd wager...

Cannonical does publish hashes in all three algos, it seems

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Against explicit attempts at cheating checksums? perhaps. But for a bit erroneously flipped in-transmission? One would have to be extremely unlucky, I'd wager...

Apparently, they are concerned about someone exploiting SHA1 now. But even MD5 will still be able to show corruption caused by hardware.

 

[silentbogo]

As good as it is, I'll wait for proper LTS release (24.04.1, which only arrives in August), so I can upgrade all of my servers.
Meanwhile, I think I'm gonna do a clean install on my daily laptop. Windows 11 really pisses me off, but unfortunately I have to have at least one Windows machine for work-related stuff...

 

[Wasteland]

every time i use balenaetcher on windows to install ubuntu i can never see anything in the driver after that... it takes over the entire flash drive, really annoying so i stick with rufus

GitHub - ventoy/Ventoy: A new bootable USB solution.

A new bootable USB solution. Contribute to ventoy/Ventoy development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

The best and simplest option, IMO. I keep a USB drive with a dozen different OSes on it. Want to add another? Drag and drop.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Bah, STILL waiting for proper VRR and HDR support in both games and desktop videos. STILL feeling like a second class citizen as a GNU/Linux user.

 

[Solaris17]

Bah, STILL waiting for proper VRR and HDR support in both games and desktop videos. STILL feeling like a second class citizen as a GNU/Linux user.

agree; I am still excited for kernel 6.10 and happy with 6.x in general. Kinda nervous about wayland but we will see I guess.

 

[johnspack]

If you want to make an install flash drive, just use ventoy. Both a windows and a linux version. You just install it to your flash drive, and then copy any full iso over to it.
I have both windows and linux isos on mine. When you boot from it you get a menu, and can start any install you want. It's foolproof and I've been using it for at least a
couple years.
I think I'm allowed to post this as it is open source software. Please try it. I hated rufus and balena etcher and all of that. This is a simple install to a flash drive, and it
is updated constantly for newer isos.

Ventoy

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

www.ventoy.net

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

So I couldn't get one of my Steam games to run in Ubuntu 24.04, but it works under Manjaro with the default proton settings. I tried every which way on Ubuntu with no luck. Wonder what's going on? Not a big enough linux expert to understand all the differences.

 

[johnspack]

Not surprising. It's why I've switched after years of using Kubuntu, to Manjaro. Manjaro is just more friendly to wine, cuda and other things that help windows games
run better. Among other things. Arch is just a better distro, more bleeding edge, and just friggin works!

 

[Easy Rhino]

So I couldn't get one of my Steam games to run in Ubuntu 24.04, but it works under Manjaro with the default proton settings. I tried every which way on Ubuntu with no luck. Wonder what's going on? Not a big enough linux expert to understand all the differences.

The ubuntu version is probably just older but you always need to check logs and the proton db to see what others have posted about the game. I am still sticking with Windows for most games since it has superior HDR and VRR support and all games work out of the box. The GNU/Linux kernel is still way behind sadly and I am not going to build bleeding edge software and drivers only to have them break with a simple update. I got tired of doing that dance 20 years ago on FreeBSD.

 

[SchumannFrequency]

I am still sticking with Windows for most games since it has superior HDR and VRR support and all games work out of the box. The GNU/Linux kernel is still way behind sadly and I am not going to build bleeding edge software and drivers only to have them break with a simple update. I got tired of doing that dance 20 years ago on FreeBSD.

FreeBSD has always had fairly recent software packages and OpenBSD also has fairly recent software.

HDR may not be an improvement for people's increasing visual impairment.

HDR causing me headaches and eye strain https://www.avsforum.com/threads/hdr-causing-me-headaches-and-eye-strain.2981558/
user 1: The headaches and eye strain are killing me. I've seen recommendations for trying "Gunnar" glasses to see if they help and suggestions for bias lighting. Has anyone here suffered from headaches with HDR viewing? I'm at the point where I will probably return this TV and just keep my plasma. I'm blown away by HDR but I'm not going to be able to tolerate these headaches just to watch TV.
user 2: Your not alone but from a LED owner. I recently picked up a Sony Z9D and I'm having the same issue. Yesterday was the first time and I messed around with the backlight and brightness controls on my LED. I stopped watching the set for an hour and went back to it after adjusting it and it was much better.
user 3: I’ve had similar issues with games in HDR, but haven’t had an issue with movies.

My eye/headaches problems on 4k HDR https://ledstrain.org/d/790-my-eye-headaches-problems-on-4k-hdr
On the new display I have played tons of hours on Zelda BOTH and everyting was fine. After this game I have returned to ps4 and the nightmare begin... I had red / bloody eyes with super tense headache JUST after 20-30mins of play... I have tried many settings, bias lightning even trying to force is which ended super bad next day (couldn't see normally while driving car to work). TV and movies on this panasonic was fine. Time for return has passed. I have never had that kind of problems until this point. Im an IT guy so a lot of monitors at work/home-gaming no issues at all even starring 10h at screen. I have tested PS4 on my EIZO fs2434 - super fine I even took it to work to play on 24 HP monitor - fine.

HDR Has Ruined My Eyes Or Help Me Figure Out What I'm Doing Wrong https://www.resetera.com/threads/hd...elp-me-figure-out-what-im-doing-wrong.318724/
user 1: As it is, I hate HDR. For every game that supports it, I have to set in game brightness slightly in the middle through the game menu or higher. For every game I play that doesn't feature it...it's obviously way too dark (my screen). For non-HDR games, I have to turn brightness all the way up in the game menu when it wants me to "make one image disappear and the other barely appear".
The thing is, with brightness up so high in HDR...it kills my eyes.
tl;dr: HDR is destroying my eyes because of brightness. Am I doing something wrong or is my opinion valid?
user 2: I'm in the same boat, OP.
Turning HDR on is like staring directly at the sun. And my TV bumps the brightness to full every time I boot an HDR game and I get blinded by it every time I do. So I keep it off.
Shame, because it looks nice, just blinding.

I'm not an eye care professional, but I do know that my old TN panel never gave me eye problems, even after many hours of continuous use.
My new IPS monitor may deliver more accurate images, but it is much more stressful for the eyes, even if I set the brightness almost to the minimum value.

Myopia: An epidemic of global proportions https://www.optometrytimes.com/view/myopia-an-epidemic-of-global-proportions

 

[Easy Rhino]

FreeBSD has always had fairly recent software packages and OpenBSD also has fairly recent software.

HDR may not be an improvement for people's increasing visual impairment.

HDR causing me headaches and eye strain https://www.avsforum.com/threads/hdr-causing-me-headaches-and-eye-strain.2981558/
user 1: The headaches and eye strain are killing me. I've seen recommendations for trying "Gunnar" glasses to see if they help and suggestions for bias lighting. Has anyone here suffered from headaches with HDR viewing? I'm at the point where I will probably return this TV and just keep my plasma. I'm blown away by HDR but I'm not going to be able to tolerate these headaches just to watch TV.
user 2: Your not alone but from a LED owner. I recently picked up a Sony Z9D and I'm having the same issue. Yesterday was the first time and I messed around with the backlight and brightness controls on my LED. I stopped watching the set for an hour and went back to it after adjusting it and it was much better.
user 3: I’ve had similar issues with games in HDR, but haven’t had an issue with movies.

My eye/headaches problems on 4k HDR https://ledstrain.org/d/790-my-eye-headaches-problems-on-4k-hdr
On the new display I have played tons of hours on Zelda BOTH and everyting was fine. After this game I have returned to ps4 and the nightmare begin... I had red / bloody eyes with super tense headache JUST after 20-30mins of play... I have tried many settings, bias lightning even trying to force is which ended super bad next day (couldn't see normally while driving car to work). TV and movies on this panasonic was fine. Time for return has passed. I have never had that kind of problems until this point. Im an IT guy so a lot of monitors at work/home-gaming no issues at all even starring 10h at screen. I have tested PS4 on my EIZO fs2434 - super fine I even took it to work to play on 24 HP monitor - fine.

HDR Has Ruined My Eyes Or Help Me Figure Out What I'm Doing Wrong https://www.resetera.com/threads/hd...elp-me-figure-out-what-im-doing-wrong.318724/
user 1: As it is, I hate HDR. For every game that supports it, I have to set in game brightness slightly in the middle through the game menu or higher. For every game I play that doesn't feature it...it's obviously way too dark (my screen). For non-HDR games, I have to turn brightness all the way up in the game menu when it wants me to "make one image disappear and the other barely appear".
The thing is, with brightness up so high in HDR...it kills my eyes.
tl;dr: HDR is destroying my eyes because of brightness. Am I doing something wrong or is my opinion valid?
user 2: I'm in the same boat, OP.
Turning HDR on is like staring directly at the sun. And my TV bumps the brightness to full every time I boot an HDR game and I get blinded by it every time I do. So I keep it off.
Shame, because it looks nice, just blinding.

I'm not an eye care professional, but I do know that my old TN panel never gave me eye problems, even after many hours of continuous use.
My new IPS monitor may deliver more accurate images, but it is much more stressful for the eyes, even if I set the brightness almost to the minimum value.

Myopia: An epidemic of global proportions https://www.optometrytimes.com/view/myopia-an-epidemic-of-global-proportions

HDR is a visual improvement. People are sitting to close to their monitors and have been for decades. Now even MORE people are looking at their bright phones all day.

Linux is still way behind HDR and VRR. Sticking with Windows for the time being sadly.

 

[Solaris17]

HDR is a visual improvement.

I’ll admit HDR has been a pretty terrible experience for me on windows. However I realllly do want VRR to work correctly.