Microsoft Has Lost its Mind—$450 for a Keyboard, AI Button Included

[Dr. Dro]

chatgpt recently let me started using chatgpt 4o but limits me to certain amount per day for free. then it reverts me back to 3.5

honestly I prefer just using chatgpt official website, not sure why Apple, Google, and Microsoft want to spend billions on their own AI, won't matter to me, i will continue to use official chatgpt website and/or app.

I am more of a Grok guy, but no thank you, I do just fine without AI and will remain doing just fine without AI. In fact, it's almost in my professional interest not to have AI on my stuff, considered I am a law student and the slightest sign of AI or plagiarism in any of my work is going to get me kicked to the curb and that's my livelihood on the line.

 

[Vayra86]

I am more of a Grok guy, but no thank you, I do just fine without AI and will remain doing just fine without AI. In fact, it's almost in my professional interest not to have AI on my stuff, considered I am a law student and the slightest sign of AI or plagiarism in any of my work is going to get me kicked to the curb and that's my livelihood on the line.

It won't be long before AI separates those that are truly intelligent from those that think they are because they can use a search bar or a prompt.

Its not quite unlike the current status quo wrt social media realities versus people that actually have perspective on the world based on knowledge and experience. The latter group will simply leave the first behind to wither in their own misery. Did I just summarize Cyberpunk 2077? Gosh, its almost like dystopia's around the corner...


Also has it occurred to anyone that now you have tape off TWO buttons while gaming on your regular KB to avoid unwanted shenanigans? All for the lovely price of 450 bucks, too.

 

[Space Lynx]

It won't be long before AI separates those that are truly intelligent from those that think they are because they can use a search bar or a prompt.

Its not quite unlike the current status quo wrt social media realities versus people that actually have perspective on the world based on knowledge and experience. The latter group will simply leave the first behind to wither in their own misery. Did I just summarize Cyberpunk 2077? Gosh, its almost like dystopia's around the corner...


Also has it occurred to anyone that now you have tape off TWO buttons while gaming on your regular KB to avoid unwanted shenanigans? All for the lovely price of 450 bucks, too.

I have to disagree with both of you on this, I personally have found AI to be helpful in my overall growth, I just see it as a quicker way to research things. It just is a more comprehensive search engine in my eyes with quick and easy to understand explanation

I personally like chatgpt.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It won't be long before AI separates those that are truly intelligent from those that think they are because they can use a search bar or a prompt.

Its not quite unlike the current status quo wrt social media realities versus people that actually have perspective on the world based on knowledge and experience. The latter group will simply leave the first behind to wither in their own misery. Did I just summarize Cyberpunk 2077? Gosh, its almost like dystopia's around the corner...


Also has it occurred to anyone that now you have tape off TWO buttons while gaming on your regular KB to avoid unwanted shenanigans? All for the lovely price of 450 bucks, too.

It's a really poor implementation too, basically pressing the Copilot key sends a signal for left shift + left Windows key + F23 (yes, F23 from big ole terminal keyboards), you should be able to remap or nuke that using SharpKeys or another keyboard remapper, but otherwise Microsoft introduced no keyboard key code of its own for Copilot. It's almost as if there's a vestigial acknowledgement that this is a bubble and will not get anywhere, best not to upset the status quo or something.

I have to disagree with both of you on this, I personally have found AI to be helpful in my overall growth, I just see it as a quicker way to research things. It just is a more comprehensive search engine in my eyes with quick and easy to understand explanation

I personally like chatgpt.

In my medium, it's a big, yuuge no-no. It may work if you casually have to look up stuff (call me old fashioned but Wikipedia has served me my entire life for this purpose), but any research I do has to be categorized and come from recognized academic sources, or it's straight plagiarism. To make things worse, there's now "AI detectors" that a lot of people in academia use. If any of them as much as suspects that whatever is written is computer generated, your work is toast. All AI did was make my life harder, so far.

 

[Vayra86]

I have to disagree with both of you on this, I personally have found AI to be helpful in my overall growth, I just see it as a quicker way to research things. It just is a more comprehensive search engine in my eyes with quick and easy to understand explanation

I personally like chatgpt.

Each to their own, but make no mistake of the separation I talked about above here. Its real, its happening, and its hard to reverse. Its a bit like sticking to a diet. If you don't make the diet your lifestyle, you will regress.

I like burgers too, doesn't mean its good for me.

In the longer term though, look at what fast food has done to society.
ChatGPT is no different. You'll be a fat, sedentary lazy bum that knows nothing, the ideal plaything of commerce, and probably spending the last few decades of your life in and out of hospitals.

 

[Space Lynx]

Each to their own, but make no mistake of the separation I talked about above here. Its real, its happening, and its hard to reverse. Its a bit like sticking to a diet. If you don't make the diet your lifestyle, you will regress.

I like burgers too, doesn't mean its good for me.

In the longer term though, look at what fast food has done to society.
ChatGPT is no different. You'll be a fat, sedentary lazy bum that knows nothing, the ideal plaything of commerce, and probably spending the last few decades of your life in and out of hospitals.

I disagree, its already helped enhance some of arguments on free will vs determinism, because I was able to have debates back and forth with chatgpt in real time, while also using primary source quotes to call out Chatgpt when i felt it was getting stuff wrong, I have had several cases where it has helped me grow, doesn't mean I am going to stop reading good books, etc. It is just a better search engine is all it is, just another tool for us to use.

Yes, some people will end up like you mention, but not all.

 

[remixedcat]

only keyboard I'd pay 450 for is a nice midi controller!

 

[Vayra86]

I disagree, its already helped enhance some of arguments on free will vs determinism, because I was able to have debates back and forth with chatgpt in real time, while also using primary source quotes to call out Chatgpt when i felt it was getting stuff wrong, I have had several cases where it has helped me grow, doesn't mean I am going to stop reading good books, etc. It is just a better search engine is all it is, just another tool for us to use.

Yes, some people will end up like you mention, but not all.

Responsible use is key The question remains whether the temptation can be resisted long term. On a larger scale though... those models need to be fed continuously with real knowledge. Where's that going to come from with irresponsible users?

Here's an example of irresponsible use propagating because... guess what, money talks

The OpenAI team responsible for AI's existential dangers has disbanded

With Ilya Sutskever's and Jan Leike's departures, the "superalignment" team is no more

qz.com

 

[Space Lynx]

only keyboard I'd pay 450 for is a nice midi controller!

I wouldn't pay that much for any peripheral, I knew a lady in the United Kingdom who had a 3000 dollar handbag, and when I asked her about what the point of that is she became really defensive, lol

 

[remixedcat]

I wouldn't pay that much for any peripheral, I knew a lady in the United Kingdom who had a 3000 dollar handbag, and when I asked her about what the point of that is she became really defensive, lol

for 3k I can make a whole studio for that!!! jeez!!

 

[Dr. Dro]

Responsible use is key The question remains whether the temptation can be resisted long term. On a larger scale though... those models need to be fed continuously with real knowledge. Where's that going to come from with irresponsible users?

Here's an example of irresponsible use propagating because... guess what, money talks

The OpenAI team responsible for AI's existential dangers has disbanded

With Ilya Sutskever's and Jan Leike's departures, the "superalignment" team is no more

qz.com

I'd argue that there's no track record for a safe assumption of good will here. It will be abused, it's just a matter of when and not if.

 

[dir_d]

I know that Microsoft has said that a new Windows key will be needed for AI. Is the reason why this is so expensive because the license is included with the keyboard? I really can not think of another reason why it would be that expensive.

 

[Broken Processor]

Apple can sell a TV stand for 2 grand and wheels for 800 and suddenly a 400 quid keyboard doesn't seem so bad XD

 

[Gmr_Chick]

"a touchpad with a vibration function for haptic feedback. The touchpad can have varying pressure levels..."

So THAT'S why the price is so high - the touchpad doubles as a vibrator!

 

[hat]

Copilot this Copilot that.

I'm almost joining the Windows 7 holdouts in their loony bin, it's looking rather comfy.

I miss XP...

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Each to their own, but make no mistake of the separation I talked about above here. Its real, its happening, and its hard to reverse. Its a bit like sticking to a diet. If you don't make the diet your lifestyle, you will regress.

I like burgers too, doesn't mean its good for me.

In the longer term though, look at what fast food has done to society.
ChatGPT is no different. You'll be a fat, sedentary lazy bum that knows nothing, the ideal plaything of commerce, and probably spending the last few decades of your life in and out of hospitals.

The danger, of course, is that AI models that digest are regurgitate have been shown to have bias. I don't want critical learning to be filtered through AI, personally.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

chatgpt

ChatGPT is in legal trouble now, allegedly ripped off a person's voice.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Microsoft Has Lost its Mind

This happened years ago.. It start nearly 15 years ago if we're being honest.

 

[Steevo]

Im Moving back to 10. 11 is hot garbage and not required for anything I do

 

[lexluthermiester]

Im Moving back to 10. 11 is hot garbage and not required for anything I do

I'd move back to Windows 7 if I could..

 

[Chaitanya]

The migration to an Apple clone is almost complete.

They already were worse version of Apple when it came to Surface devices. not repairable(worse than Apple) and not particularly durable.

 

[95Viper]

The topic is, "Microsoft Has Lost its Mind—$450 for a Keyboard, AI Button Included".
Let's stick to the topic please.

 

[RaceT3ch]

I'm pretty sure a 7800x3d costs the same amount of money for this keyboard
For 450 dollars you'd expect it to at least be crazy quality mechanical, but I bet you it's just some terrible 5-dollar membrane keyboard with a wireless coil that charges a digital pencil

 

[gurusmi]

I guess htat the AI key is strongly needed to think about the prize.