Could you help on which 4080 super to buy plz?

[dassan]

Hello guys, i wanna buy 4080 super and i have 2 options:
1. GALAX GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER SG 1-Click OC (1300 USD)
2. ASUS ProArt GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER OC (1550 USD)
And between these two, there s like 250 USD difference at price (Asus one is expensive). Asus one is more durable and futureproof considering "i dont wanna change my gpu again for like 3-4 years" or it wud be ok to buy Galax one also?
And one more thing these are the prices of 4070ti super also:
1. GALAX GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER SG 1-Click OC (1030 USD)
2.ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC (1440 USD)
4080 super worth the price difference? Which one u wud buy guys? Thx for helping

 

[ty_ger]

In my opinion, there's not enough difference within the same model to warrant a big price difference.

 

[c2DDragon]

I had a KFA² card (Galax) and it died pretty fast just after the warranty ended of course...the same for a Gigabyte (RIP my 1080Ti). I didn't try any Asus card yet but my MSI (970) and AMD (out of topic here) are still rock solid.

By the way if you plan to buy, right now, an old overpriced GPU, I advise you to just wait until november (something like that) and buy a 5090 or a 5080.

For staying on topic, if you really want to spend huge money on an aged GPU, Asus>Galax. Still it's nonsense in my point of view, you better get an used cheap GPU better than yours or keep yours (if it's not failing) until few months.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The cheaper one no gpu within the same line of cards is worth that much of a premium.

The 4080 super is noticeably better but both are very good performers at 1440p and ok at 4k depending on if you like RT or not.

You are very late in the generation these cards are already almost 18 months old from an architectural standpoint expecting it to last another 36-48 months is probably wishful thinking unless you don't mind really turning down settings or gaming at 1080p.

I'd probably wait assuming you don't absolutely need a gpu right now. If you were shopping in the mid range I'd say go for it because those cards are probably a year plus out.

I'd say if you dead set on these two cards I'd only get the 4080 super if you are really into RT if not the 4070ti super is fine assuming 1440p or lower.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Get the ASUS ProArt if it fits on your bill. Amazing card with amazing build quality.

 

[basco]

is this graphic-card for the system in your profile ?
then i would advise against all and take other approach .

 

[GerKNG]

i5 4590 with 8GB RAM?
i would not waste my hard earned money to have a GPU idling in most games.

 

[#22]

4080 Super tends to be ~15% faster than 4070 Ti Super. I find ~15% more fps on the edge of being noticeable uplift when you try hard to notice, so one unnoticeable during real life gameplay. That makes 4080S unnoticeably faster for noticeably higher price, so I wouldn't even think about it. Looking forward it's also not likely to give much of it back on used market where people are more focused on value.

I also wouldn't think about Pro Art cards. Both 4070TiS and 4080S are big heat loads for such compact cooler, so won't work as cool and quietly as other, bigger models.

Good question are also system specs - i5 4690 and 8GB RAM won't cut it with modern games, so I don't even count reducing performance of discussed cards.

 

[Dr. Dro]

4080 Super tends to be ~15% faster than 4070 Ti Super. I find ~15% more fps on the edge of being noticeable uplift when you try hard to notice, so one unnoticeable during real life gameplay. That makes 4080S unnoticeably faster for noticeably higher price, so I wouldn't even think about it. Looking forward it's also not likely to give much of it back on used market where people are more focused on value.

I also wouldn't think about Pro Art cards. Both 4070TiS and 4080S are big heat loads for such compact cooler, so won't work as cool and quietly as other, bigger models.

Good question are also system specs - i5 4690 and 8GB RAM won't cut it with modern games, so I don't even count reducing performance of discussed cards.

The ProArt is a triple axial 2.5 slotter with extra width, it's a pretty big card, should handle the AD103's heat load just fine.

Agreed on the i5 but I think it might be a bit obvious OP is building a new PC, I guess.

 

[WhiteNoise]

Use that money to build a new PC instead. Then buy a video card later.

 

[P4-630]

Check it out and compare temps and fan noise

 

[#22]

The ProArt is a triple axial 2.5 slotter with extra width, it's a pretty big card, should handle the AD103's heat load just fine.

Agreed on the i5 but I think it might be a bit obvious OP is building a new PC, I guess.

I speak from my experience with 4080s and ~300W cards in general. Not with ProArt, but it's just not much of a cooler by only looking at size, so whatever great solutions or how many heatpipes it has inside. Simply not much for such heat load and obviously will perform worse than maybe even all of the rest being way bigger ones. Especially if we talk 4080(S) where most get the same cooler as 4090.

He said nothing to make obvious that he builds new pc and people needing to ask such questions on forum have mostly bad ideas lol

 

[Dr. Dro]

I speak from my experience with 4080s and ~300W cards in general. Not with ProArt, but it's just not much of a cooler by only looking at size, so whatever great solutions or how many heatpipes it has inside. Simply not much for such heat load and obviously will perform worse than maybe even all of the rest being way bigger ones. Especially if we talk 4080(S) where most get the same cooler as 4090.

He said nothing to make obvious that he builds new pc and people needing to ask such questions on forum have mostly bad ideas lol

4090 heatsinks on the 4080 have always been some serious overkill (at least the ROG Strix is, which is the card I have), I still think it`s adequate. For the money there`s probably better value though. I'm with you though, that PC as listed on specs is just not adequate

 

[dassan]

Hey, i didnt updated my specs on there sorry. I have AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a ASUS Tuf Gaming B650M-E 6400MHz (OC) DDR5 Soket AM5 board now with still Sapphire R9 390 NITRO TRI-X OC . I guess it s better to wait a lil longer for 5000 series then tho it s not that much wise to get fresh powerful nvidia cards on the release days i guess as they had melting etc problems before.

 

[P4-630]

better to wait a lil longer for 5000 series

Also when you even won't buy new gen when out, prices of current GPU's should come down.

 

[Vayra86]

Hey, i didnt updated my specs on there sorry. I have AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D with a ASUS Tuf Gaming B650M-E 6400MHz (OC) DDR5 Soket AM5 board now with still Sapphire R9 390 NITRO TRI-X OC . I guess it s better to wait a lil longer for 5000 series then tho it s not that much wise to get fresh powerful nvidia cards on the release days i guess as they had melting etc problems before.

Depends, we haven't really seen a big move when Ada launched in terms of perf/$.
That only happened late in gen, with the SUPERs.

So given that cadence you might be waiting for a long time. If you find a good, competitive 4080S deal I'd just go for it.
Or step down to 4070ti Super. Much better bang/buck and same 16GB.

 

[chrcoluk]

Get the ASUS ProArt if it fits on your bill. Amazing card with amazing build quality.

Only read about this today, the card seems to prove the 4080 super can work with 2 slots build.

Depends, we haven't really seen a big move when Ada launched in terms of perf/$.
That only happened late in gen, with the SUPERs.

So given that cadence you might be waiting for a long time. If you find a good, competitive 4080S deal I'd just go for it.
Or step down to 4070ti Super. Much better bang/buck and same 16GB.

I have been considering the 4070ti super as well, but when I did the maths its bang for buck seems on par with the 4080 super. If 4070 ti super FE was 2 slot, it would have decided for me but they are both triple slot, so I feel like I am edging towards more longevity. As its cheaper to spend a bit more over a higher binned card for that boost, than to get the same boost later by upgrading to new gen. If I remember right the 4080 super has better encoding hardware as well.

TPU somewhere did publish a spec table which included encoder chip but I cant find it. Seems to only be present on some reviews.

Ok it is 4070 super and up that has 2 encoder chips, found info here. So both options have same encoding performance.

Also of interest on the below graph, w1zzard didnt use launch prices for older gen cards, the 3080 wasnt $450 at launch.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 Series Graphics Cards

Beyond fast for gamers and creators.

www.nvidia.com

 

[#22]

@chrcoluk If you already refreshed this thread, recently I noticed video below showing Pro Art's behaviour, even comparing with TUF. Maybe somebody would find it helpful.

Guy talks with irritating manner and is from the kind specializing in doing sponsored videos, so I recommend muting him and focusing on HWInfo starting ~9:40:

Like I suggested before, 300+W is much for such tiny cooler, but honestly not expected it being that bad. 2200+ rpm will be on the louder side and then hitting 75C means barely any room to avoid throttling during hot weather or just working in not so airy case, not even mentioning sacrificing thermals to lower noise.

EDIT: BTW mind this moron was testing both cards with "5-7C" different ambient, so don't suggest with comparison numbers.

 

[chrcoluk]

@chrcoluk If you already refreshed this thread, recently I noticed video below showing Pro Art's behaviour, even comparing with TUF. Maybe somebody would find it helpful.

Guy talks with irritating manner and is from the kind specializing in doing sponsored videos, so I recommend muting him and focusing on HWInfo starting ~9:40:

Like I suggested before, 300+W is much for such tiny cooler, but honestly not expected it being that bad. 2200+ rpm will be on the louder side and then hitting 75C means barely any room to avoid throttling during hot weather or just working in not so airy case, not even mentioning sacrificing thermals to lower noise.

Dual slot isnt tiny, and 3080 has same TDP with dual slot, never seen my card 50 or higher. The card can be tuned to lower power limit, under volted etc. bear in mind not every runs their cards at such high loads, many of us play capped FPS and older games.

I wont be buying the pro art anyway due to the price premium, the 4070 ti super also seems out as well as is no FE card for it, so sadly unless I mod the card I am going to have to deal with a huge GPU.

The guy is running furmark as well and at 99% GPU usage, more realistic is perhaps in a game at 50-70% load.

 

[#22]

Dual slot isnt tiny, and 3080 has same TDP with dual slot, never seen my card 50 or higher. The card can be tuned to lower power limit, under volted etc. bear in mind not every runs their cards at such high loads, many of us play capped FPS and older games.

I wont be buying the pro art anyway due to the price premium, the 4070 ti super also seems out as well as is no FE card for it, so sadly unless I mod the card I am going to have to deal with a huge GPU.

The guy is running furmark as well and at 99% GPU usage, more realistic is perhaps in a game at 50-70% load.

For you is not tiny, for me is - no point disscussing that Plus I wouldn't mix here uv/power limiting. It could be done to any card and one having better cooler would still give better results. The same with capping framerate. But good idea of not buying Pro Art - it's the card only for ones not having space for bigger. Costing premium when being quite barebones: weak cooler; not even having dual bios; I wouldn't be surprised it having plastic shroud, so one flimsier and irritating with making noises when getting hot.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Only read about this today, the card seems to prove the 4080 super can work with 2 slots build.

Typical 4K gaming load with DLSS-G with the RTX 4080 is <150W. Even at 3030 MHz I only barely get 300 W and thats pushing my Strix to the max. It`s a really efficient card! The Super is probably in the same ballpark. That ProArt will do, with 2.5 slot design and 3 fans.

 

[AleXXX666]

Hello guys, i wanna buy 4080 super and i have 2 options:
1. GALAX GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER SG 1-Click OC (1300 USD)
2. ASUS ProArt GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER OC (1550 USD)
And between these two, there s like 250 USD difference at price (Asus one is expensive). Asus one is more durable and futureproof considering "i dont wanna change my gpu again for like 3-4 years" or it wud be ok to buy Galax one also?
And one more thing these are the prices of 4070ti super also:
1. GALAX GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER SG 1-Click OC (1030 USD)
2.ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC (1440 USD)
4080 super worth the price difference? Which one u wud buy guys? Thx for helping

4080 super is 15% better than 4070 ti super.

between asus and galax, the 250 difference is TOO MUCH. galax is ppretty ok.

 

[chrcoluk]

For you is not tiny, for me is - no point disscussing that Plus I wouldn't mix here uv/power limiting. It could be done to any card and one having better cooler would still give better results. The same with capping framerate. But good idea of not buying Pro Art - it's the card only for ones not having space for bigger. Costing premium when being quite barebones: weak cooler; not even having dual bios; I wouldn't be surprised it having plastic shroud, so one flimsier and irritating with making noises when getting hot.

If dual is tiny, what is single slot then? and do you think triple slot is average or something.

I am not against triple slots been on the market, they for you, but I think there should be more choice with dual slot options for those of us who want smaller form factor GPUs, we dont all run them pegged at 99%.

The plastic flimsy shroud etc, is why I prefer the FE cards now, I have never owned a GPU as well built as my 3080 FE.

Couple of months back I randomly checked the nvidia page and 4080 super FE was in stock, I pushed it back in favour of buying other things first, but now its out of stock, and will probably regret it now, hopefully it isnt out of stock as quick as the 3080 FE used to be on restocks.

Given there seems to be no FE for the 4070 ti super, the price differential is probably going to be under 15% as well, as the partners dont like sticking to MSRP. Interestingly just checked is some partner cards around MSRP. Probably poorly built but they available. If any of them are dual slot, I might buy instead of a 4080 super FE. Although the 4080 super FE is where my mind is at the moment.

 

[Vayra86]

Only read about this today, the card seems to prove the 4080 super can work with 2 slots build.


I have been considering the 4070ti super as well, but when I did the maths its bang for buck seems on par with the 4080 super. If 4070 ti super FE was 2 slot, it would have decided for me but they are both triple slot, so I feel like I am edging towards more longevity. As its cheaper to spend a bit more over a higher binned card for that boost, than to get the same boost later by upgrading to new gen. If I remember right the 4080 super has better encoding hardware as well.

TPU somewhere did publish a spec table which included encoder chip but I cant find it. Seems to only be present on some reviews.

Ok it is 4070 super and up that has 2 encoder chips, found info here. So both options have same encoding performance.

Also of interest on the below graph, w1zzard didnt use launch prices for older gen cards, the 3080 wasnt $450 at launch.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 Series Graphics Cards

Beyond fast for gamers and creators.

www.nvidia.com

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If faster cards are the same perf/$ its a no brainer...

 

[#22]

If dual is tiny, what is single slot then? and do you think triple slot is average or something.

I am not against triple slots been on the market, they for you, but I think there should be more choice with dual slot options for those of us who want smaller form factor GPUs, we dont all run them pegged at 99%.

I meant tiny for it's stock wattage, not in general

Fully agree that choice should be more variable. Ada generation shows tendency of cards coming with overkill coolers and it's a double edged sword - even cheap models are like that, so you can have card quiet and cool without paying traditional premium, but on the other hand people needing something smaller have almost nothing to choose from. Hopefully Nvidia will help here with this new, kinda certification standard they shown during Computex.

The plastic flimsy shroud etc, is why I prefer the FE cards now, I have never owned a GPU as well built as my 3080 FE.

Couple of months back I randomly checked the nvidia page and 4080 super FE was in stock, I pushed it back in favour of buying other things first, but now its out of stock, and will probably regret it now, hopefully it isnt out of stock as quick as the 3080 FE used to be on restocks.

Given there seems to be no FE for the 4070 ti super, the price differential is probably going to be under 15% as well, as the partners dont like sticking to MSRP. Interestingly just checked is some partner cards around MSRP. Probably poorly built but they available. If any of them are dual slot, I might buy instead of a 4080 super FE. Although the 4080 super FE is where my mind is at the moment.

The plastic shrouds are garbage which sadly is a standard to the point of full metal cards being exceptions confirming this norm. If we talk Nvidia higher power cards, I find the most value in TUFs - overally great and not that expensive, because cheaper ones are only worse. Sadly there's rather no dual slot TUF. You have my opinion about 4070TiS vs 4080(S) above, so how about 4070TiS Gaming X Slim?