Intel Optane 1TB

Shrek · Jun 15, 2024

I see Intel Optane NVMe 1TB drives for $72

any advantage over a standard NVMe? (price is comparable) and my motherboard supports it.

Space Lynx · Jun 15, 2024

I see 118gb Optane for $72 on amazon shipped and sold by amazon, never seen 1tb optane under like 300 bucks... where you seeing this? doesn't sound legit to me.

ExcuseMeWtf · Jun 15, 2024

^Ah yes, good old "If it sounds too good to be true...". Always worth keeping in mind.

Shrek · Jun 15, 2024

Space Lynx said:
I see 118gb Optane for $72 on amazon shipped and sold by amazon, never seen 1tb optane under like 300 bucks... where you seeing this? doesn't sound legit to me.

Lots on ebay (1TB)

dgianstefani · Jun 15, 2024

Shrek said:
Lots on ebay (1TB)

It's a 1 TB NAND flash drive with 32 GB of optane as a cache.

Optane comes in 32, 64, 120, 400, 800GB, 1.6 TB and 3.2 TB

massaker · Jun 15, 2024

Space Lynx said:
...never seen 1tb optane under like 300 bucks... where you seeing this? doesn't sound legit to me...

meanwhile on Newegg... Intel Optane 905P Series 960GB, 2.5" x 15mm, U.2, PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D XPoint Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPE21D960GAM3 - Newegg.com

Space Lynx · Jun 15, 2024

dgianstefani said:
It's a 1 TB NAND flash drive with 32 GB of optane as a cache.

Optane comes in 32, 64, 120, 400, 800GB, 1.6 TB and 3.2 TB

this makes more sense. that 118gb optane would be a better buy at $72 shipped and sold by Amazon, Optane doesn't work like normal storage so you don't need a 1tb anyway is my understanding, 32gb is a little too low though on the same hand.

Shrek · Jun 15, 2024

Amazon.com: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE 80MM 3.0 3DX SINGLEPACK : Electronics

Looks like it might make for a good boot drive.

Space Lynx · Jun 15, 2024

massaker said:
meanwhile on Newegg... Intel Optane 905P Series 960GB, 2.5" x 15mm, U.2, PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D XPoint Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPE21D960GAM3 - Newegg.com

i mean technically its still not under 300 after tax, lol

JoeTheDestroyer · Jun 15, 2024

dgianstefani said:
Optane comes in 32, 64, 120, 400, 800GB, 1.6 TB and 3.2 TB

Intel Optane 905P Series 960GB, 2.5" x 15mm, U.2, PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D XPoint Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPE21D960GAM3 - Newegg.com

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bonehead123 · Jun 15, 2024

Ah yes, good ole fleecebay, gotta get me some o'dat....

n/O/t.......

LabRat 891 · Jun 15, 2024

Intel H10 drives came in '1TB' capacity, using Intel QLC and Optane on-drive; separate drives managed by UEFI/driver. They only work in supported platforms (with x2/x2 M.2 lane bifurcation).
IMO, they're a must-have curio if you have and maintain a compatible Intel build from that era. Otherwise, they're a waste of money.

The old or affordable fully-Optane drives are the
Optane M10 B/M-key PCIe3.0x2 lane units
Followed up by the Optane 905P
then the Optane P1600X
There are more models, and more-performant models, but those are the units you'll find on eBay/Newegg commonly.

The 905P and P1600X are 'beat' in sequential performance, by modern Gen3-4-5 NVME drives. However, the latest Gen5 NAND drives are still stomped in Random R/W by 'old and smol' Gen3 Optane drives.

Edit: P1600X Benchmark dump and discussion/comparison

Optane 1600X 118GB - Lots of CDM benching and some thoughts

These CDM benchmarks of the P1600X were made on a clean Win 11 Pro 23H2 install for the first run. Then as a second step, to sort of parallel the conditions in which W1zzard tests these, I filled the drive furthermore to about 80% capacity to rerun all tests – twice. It’s not like I went into...

www.techpowerup.com

Shrek · Jun 15, 2024

Amazon.com: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE 80MM 3.0 3DX SINGLEPACK : Electronics

seems different from the 1TB NAND version with 32GB cache.

Maybe it is the 118GB drive that I actually seek as a boot drive.

LabRat 891 · Jun 15, 2024

Shrek said:
Amazon.com: Customer reviews: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE 80MM 3.0 3DX SINGLEPACK

seems different from the 1TB NAND version with 32GB cache.

Very much.

What Are the Differences among Types of Intel® Optane™ Memory?

What Are the Differences among Types of Intel® Optane™...

Overview of differences among Intel® Optane™ memory products.

www.intel.com

The P1600X is much more modern/newer 'value oriented' professional use drive.
-marketed for Boot/OS and/or Cache drives. It has write-thru power protection on-stick, and is 100% 3DXPoint PCM Optane.

The Optane H10 and H20 were a hybrid drive; Intel's low-effort attempt at 'Optane in the consumer space'
Effectively, an x2-lane 1st gen Intel QLC NAND NVME drive, duct-taped together with a small Optane M10 x2 lane 3DXpoint PCM NVME drive.

THG's P1600X overview:

Intel Reveals Optane SSD P1600X: Entry-Level Boot & Caching SSDs

Intel's Optane SSD P1600X are designed for boot, caching, and logging workloads.

www.tomshardware.com

Level1Techs videos on similar/same.

Shrek · Jun 15, 2024

Tempted to have a low latency 118GB boot drive

Optane 1600X 118GB - Lots of CDM benching and some thoughts

These CDM benchmarks of the P1600X were made on a clean Win 11 Pro 23H2 install for the first run. Then as a second step, to sort of parallel the conditions in which W1zzard tests these, I filled the drive furthermore to about 80% capacity to rerun all tests – twice. It’s not like I went into...

www.techpowerup.com

is the thread I was looking for.

iameatingjam · Jun 25, 2024

I like intel optane... well actually, I didn't even really know what it was until it got cancelled, but sounds like its pretty much ssds without the consistency problems that basically all other models have. And that is the single thing I care most about when it comes to ssd speeds, consistency. I don't care anout the fastest speed if its only reached for a second.

Shrek · Jun 25, 2024

It took me some time to understand the difference between

Intel Optane SSD P1600X 118GB
Intel Optane 1TB

the later only has 32GB cache.

It's the first I got as a boot drive.

Klemc · Jun 25, 2024

eBay, no way i agree with their 10% grab, i buy for me to somebody, no need a third one to conclude market

Shrek · Jun 25, 2024

I ended up getting the Intel Optane SSD P1600X 118GB from Amazon

Amazon.com: Intel OPTANE SSD P1600X Series 118GB M.2 PCIE 80MM 3.0 3DX SINGLEPACK : Electronics

dj-electric · Jun 25, 2024

I own a 905p 480GB and eventually I have ended up replacing it with an SN850X 1TB.
I honestly think that by now the convenience of high capacity M.2 SSDs beat Optane's superior but questionably useful upper hand in randoms performance.
Standard workflows remained entirely unimpacted, and have in fact even gained some performance in some parts. Theoretical reliability be damned.

P4-630 · Jun 25, 2024

Shrek said:
I ended up getting the Intel Optane SSD P1600X 118GB from Amazon

How much space did the windows 11 installation with all updates take?

How much space left?

Shrek · Jun 25, 2024

I seem to recall 76GB remaining and that is without disk cleanup (i.e. about 1/3rd used); there is a 58GB version, but I would not recommend it.

P4-630 · Jun 25, 2024

Does it got over provisioning? Or set by yourself or not needed maybe...

dgianstefani · Jun 25, 2024

P4-630 said:
Does it got over provisioning? Or set by yourself or not needed maybe...

Not needed.

chrcoluk · Jun 25, 2024

Not sure if I would use it as a boot drive, I feel it would be wasted in that role.

I have been using my intel DC P4600 with twitch leecher lately, and it is pretty fast, but if the video is big enough, when merging, it will slow down after the first 3-4 seconds to about 400MB/sec writes, curious if Optane would smack it down hard in same workload.

Found a ebay seller selling the U.2 version for not much more than I paid for my unit, but the PCIe version (which is the one I have) is still way more expensive than what I paid.

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Intel Optane 1TB

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Intel Optane 905P Series 960GB, 2.5" x 15mm, U.2, PCIe 3.0 x4, 3D XPoint Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPE21D960GAM3 - Newegg.com

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Optane 1600X 118GB - Lots of CDM benching and some thoughts

Shrek

LabRat 891

What Are the Differences among Types of Intel® Optane™ Memory?

What Are the Differences among Types of Intel® Optane™...

Intel Reveals Optane SSD P1600X: Entry-Level Boot & Caching SSDs

Shrek

Optane 1600X 118GB - Lots of CDM benching and some thoughts

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