Patriot Viper Xtreme 5 DDR5-7600 32 GB CL36

[ir_cow]

Patriot continues to expand the Viper Xtreme 5 series, targeting PC enthusiasts and the XOC crowd. This 7600 MT kit includes three XMP profiles to get you started. With a side of some serious overclocking, follow along as we break down the benefits of this memory and how you can take advantage of it.

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[damric]

Glad to see you included the overclocking section.

I was looking at these kits the other day for a possible AM5 APU build, which I'm kind of at a loss for which kit to throw in there. On one hand I want it fast enough to help the igpu, and on the other hand not crazy expensive. I'm guessing Hynix M-die kits that are binned for frequency and not timings would be where to start.

If the Ryzen APUs could eventually be put into your test array it would be most helpful, although I know that's a lot of work. To me it makes more sense to include those instead of the plain CPUs for memory review though

Much appreciated!

 

[ir_cow]

@damric my thoughts on APU is why spend a lot of money on it. The whole point is going cheap as possible. $100 MB, $150, etc. The APU uses the system memory for the graphics, which makes sense for cost saving, but I don't see how it is a good gaming solution.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I was looking at these kits the other day for a possible AM5 APU build

You will regret. Wasted money. Just get the 7x00x3d and do not look elsewhere. Look op for any used GPU on the market if you are on the budget.

 

[Space Lynx]

@ir_cow great review, I like the format and layout of everything.

also, thanks to @TheLostSwede whose advice has had me running my T-Create ram (same ram he has) at 6000 cl 30-36-36-36 and trfc, tras, and tfal edited, shaved off 10ns in the AIDA64 ram test and increased my scores a little across the board, and been fully stable for two months or so now I think.

still can't believe I got this ram for $82, Microcenter knows how to love me that's for sure.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Hey Patriot, 2014 called, they want their played out color scheme back!!

@ir_cow great review, I like the format and layout of everything.

also, thanks to @TheLostSwede whose advice has had me running my T-Create ram (same ram he has) at 6000 cl 30-36-36-36 and trfc, tras, and tfal edited, shaved off 10ns in the AIDA64 ram test and increased my scores a little across the board, and been fully stable for two months or so now I think.

still can't believe I got this ram for $82, Microcenter knows how to love me that's for sure.

Question: If those RAM settings were randomly switched between stock and your tweaked settings, do you think you could identify which was which based solely on user experience? In other words, are there any real world, tangible benefits that an average human could actually discern?

 

[Space Lynx]

Question: If those RAM settings were randomly switched between stock and your tweaked settings, do you think you could identify which was which based solely on user experience? In other words, are there any real world, tangible benefits that an average human could actually discern?

probably not, nope. I never did any fps tests, but I would be surprised if the lower latency (which all AMD systems love btw) did give me an extra 5 fps across the board in several games. avg and min fps.

Does that matter? no not really, not when we are already gaming at 130+ fps lol

but it took me like 15 seconds thanks to lostswede, I actually wasn't going to mess with it, but since he had the same exact ram and told me what to change, it was really easy and I have had 0 issues since, and it passed every ram test I threw at it. so i just left it. meh

 

[Event Horizon]

Well I have a 7800X3D and I noticed that going from 4800 JEDEC to 6000 CL36 showed the biggest benefit in Elden Ring. I'm probably too GPU bound in Starfield and Remnant 2 to really notice a difference there.

 

[damric]

@damric my thoughts on APU is why spend a lot of money on it. The whole point is going cheap as possible. $100 MB, $150, etc. The APU uses the system memory for the graphics, which makes sense for cost saving, but I don't see how it is a good gaming solution.

You will regret. Wasted money. Just get the 7x00x3d and do not look elsewhere. Look op for any used GPU on the market if you are on the budget.

purely for science/hwbot

I absolutely have no realistic need of said system. I just like to mess around with things, and APUs let me run twice as many benchmarks

 

[Ferrum Master]

purely for science/hwbot

I absolutely have no realistic need of said system. I just like to mess around with things, and APUs let me run twice as many benchmarks

I bought a Matrox m9128 for 15 euros also today. Top that in name of science. .

 

[cellar door]

Thanks for the review as always! Anyways you could include a screenshot of Zentimings for your AM5 oc settings please, https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/

For us folk on AM5 it really provides a lot of of useful info, thanks.

 

[ir_cow]

@cellar door hmm. I'll see what I can do about that. It's native size already. In short term you can download the image and enlarge on your end.

The zentimings is just a reference for what settings are loaded up with the expo/XMP profile. I believe the voltage is inconsistent as well. Maybe a later version has fixed this.

If I do any AMD OC stuff I'll include it.

 

[sector-z]

@cellar door hmm. I'll see what I can do about that. It's native size already. In short term you can download the image and enlarge on your end.

The zentimings is just a reference for what settings are loaded up with the expo/XMP profile. I believe the voltage is inconsistent as well. Maybe a later version has fixed this.

If I do any AMD OC stuff I'll include it.

Don't take my feedback as "negative", it just that imo, the OC section need to be "rethinked". I suggest couple idea that will made it more easy on your side and reader too.

First of all for resolving everythings related to the temperature and the waste potentiel ect. Can you just exemple say Stock without fan on it at XX ambiant temperature the 2 Dimm temps are at XX degree after 6000% karhu" If it below 50° you try OC and give us the maximum performance it was possible with that solution AND after you switch for air cool them for we have a view about what we can do with temp under 50° with the help of a air cooling solution ?

2) For AMD having a test with lowest timing possible you was able to acheive at exemple two frequency 6000MHz / 6400MHz could cover a good part of the audience. Aways stock & after adding the help of a Ram cooler or somethings you find that can be used by many not really expensive. It can be that one from corsair https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-...af2/dominator-airflow-platinum-rgb-fan-cmdaf2 or just a 120mm fan like Buildzoid use for acheive 6200MHz CL 26 ect

 

[Caring1]

@damric my thoughts on APU is why spend a lot of money on it. The whole point is going cheap as possible. $100 MB, $150, etc. The APU uses the system memory for the graphics, which makes sense for cost saving, but I don't see how it is a good gaming solution.

This doesn't even make sense.
I get it, you don't see a reason for APUs to exist, but fortunately you aren't everyone.
Many people have them and not for gaming.
They still serve a purpose, also "the whole point is going cheap" what exactly do you mean by that, what point? Going cheap? I'm sure people on a budget that want to game, will get a cheap GPU, CPU and motherboard etc, but they aren't the target audience for expensive Ram either.

 

[sector-z]

This doesn't even make sense.
I get it, you don't see a reason for APUs to exist, but fortunately you aren't everyone.
Many people have them and not for gaming.
They still serve a purpose, also "the whole point is going cheap" what exactly do you mean by that, what point? Going cheap? I'm sure people on a budget that want to game, will get a cheap GPU, CPU and motherboard etc, but they aren't the target audience for expensive Ram either.

Going cheap I wanted to say by that, no need to watercool or buy expensive heatsink. Buildzoid do great stuff that many can do. I consider putting a 120mm fan or a ram cooler is not on the expensive side ... For your APU things, why you talk to me about that ? What in my comment you see somethings against APU ?

 

[ir_cow]

This doesn't even make sense.
I get it, you don't see a reason for APUs to exist, but fortunately you aren't everyone.

I understand why they exist. It's AMD answer to Intels low tier CPUs, ie; i3 series that has included iGPU for over a decade now. Great for a office work computer. Saves money. No brainer.

Many people have them and not for gaming.

Exactly. No reason to spend money on 7600 MT/s memory for APU. Just use 5600 MT/s. GN goes over this quite well. You aren't buying the APU for it's iGPU gaming. Just doesn't make sense. Also faster memory barely has any performance gains.

 

[Upgrayedd]

What happened in the Intel Cyberpunk chart? The kit is at the very bottom by a wide margin??

I built a PC for someone with the 8000 kit of these and have them set to XMP Tweak 7600 with a manual bump to 7800. So 7600Tweak timings @7800MHz.

 

[Butanding1987]

The main timings on all RAM kits are looser than I want them to be, and it's because they're all EXPO/XMP. I'm looking forward to overclocked RAM settings for AMD in the future including a comparison of tight timings/subtimings under 6400/7600/8000.

"Even though some motherboard manufacturers have cited 2133 MHz as a possibility in media review guides, it may not be until the next CPU generation when we achieve these numbers consistently, without the aid of binned CPUs."

I think 2133 is common these days especially under the new AGESAs. Some people are running at 2200, though these are probably binners. I could run at 8000MT/s at FCLK-2167 (50K% Karhu-stable) with the Gene. I also managed to stabilize 8240MT/s (20K% Karhu) before two of my Genes died due to synchronous BCLK OC (103, which is not that extreme).

 

[ir_cow]

What happened in the Intel Cyberpunk chart? The kit is at the very bottom by a wide margin??

You win a prize for finding a typo! (presents a box with a note inside saying thank you). Each benchmark is a average of 3 runs (22.2, 221.2 , 220.5). You can see I'm missing a number on the first one. This is why the number was so low. Fixing this error soon.

I think 2133 is common these days especially under the new AGESAs. Some people are running at 2200, though these are probably binners. I could run at 8000MT/s at FCLK-2167 (50K% Karhu-stable) with the Gene. I also managed to stabilize 8240MT/s (20K% Karhu) before two of my Genes died due to synchronous BCLK OC (103, which is not that extreme).

I have not tried since swapping to the X670E Gene. Previously motherboards even on the newest AGESA, 2066Mhz was the highest I could go and be stable. Above that I could not get y-cruncher 2.5b to pass. A number of people on these forums have shown it is possible to go 2133.

 

[Yraggul666]

Best looking DDR5 kit i've seen so far, bar NONE! If only they made the white writing RED it would be perfect for me.

If/when i build a DDR5 rig at some point it's not getting built without one of these...unless G.Skill launches some sick looking Black/Red, crazy spec kit, then i'll have a real problem making up my mind.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Best looking DDR5 kit i've seen so far, bar NONE! If only they made the white writing RED it would be perfect for me.

If/when i build a DDR5 rig at some point it's not getting built without one of these...unless G.Skill launches some sick looking Black/Red, crazy spec kit, then i'll have a real problem making up my mind.

I used to buy gskill but I like the 3 different XMP speed profiles Patriot gives you.

 

[ir_cow]

I think 2133 is common these days especially under the new AGESAs. Some people are running at 2200, though these are probably binners. I could run at 8000MT/s at FCLK-2167 (50K% Karhu-stable) with the Gene. I also managed to stabilize 8240MT/s (20K% Karhu) before two of my Genes died due to synchronous BCLK OC (103, which is not that extreme).

Just a update. Played around with FCLK on the Gene. Still same results. 2133 is not stable and will blue screen for me pretty quickly. I know my CPU isn't the best, but that is the point I was making. Still playing the lottery here for the IMC / SoC.