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Ryzen AI 300 Series: New AMD APUs Appear in CrossMark Benchmark Database

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AMD's upcoming Ryzen AI 300 APUs pre-launch leaks continue, the latest coming from the BAPCo CrossMark benchmark database. Two models have been spotted: the officially announced Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 and the recently leaked Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, part of the "Strix Point" family, boasts 12 cores and 24 threads. Its hybrid architecture combines four Zen 5 cores with eight Zen 5C cores. The chip reaches boost clocks up to 5.1 GHz, features 36 MB of cache (24 MB L3 + 12 MB L2), and includes a Radeon 890M iGPU with 16 compute units (1024 cores). The Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360, previously leaked as a 12-core part, has now been confirmed with 8 cores and 16 threads. It utilizes a 3+5 configuration of Zen 5 and Zen 5C cores, respectively. The APU includes 8 MB each of L2 and L3 cache, with a base clock of 2.0 GHz. Its integrated Radeon 870M GPU is expected to feature the RDNA 3.5 architecture with fewer cores than its higher-end counterparts, possibly 8 compute units.

According to the leaked benchmarks, the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 was tested in an HP laptop, while the Ryzen AI 7 PRO 360 appeared in a Lenovo model equipped with LPDDR5-7500 memory. Initial scores appear unremarkable compared to top Intel Core Ultra 9 185H and AMD Ryzen 7040 APUs, however, the tested APUs may be early samples, and their performance could differ from final retail versions. Furthermore, while the TDP range is known to be between 15 W and 54 W, the specific power configurations used in these benchmarks remain unclear. The first Ryzen AI 300 laptops are slated for release on July 28th, with Ryzen AI 300 PRO models expected in October.



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In other words, better wait for the latest intel... :D
 
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In other words, better wait for the latest intel... :D
Lunar Lake does sounds interesting, because of TSMC manufacturing.
 
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In other words, better wait for the latest intel... :D
The Intel Core Ultra 9 185H is specified with 28 watts TDP (base) and 64 watts or 115 watts (PL2) max. turbo power.
The AMD 370 has a base TDP of 28 W, although laptop manufacturers are free to increase this up to 54 W.
Yes we will see...
 
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I'd really like to see how these new mobile efforts perform in terms of efficiency. What kind of everyday battery life are we going to see, and will they sound like jet engines or not? Sure, being the top performer is good and all, but these performance specs are fine, and I think we need a good balance of performance end efficiency here. At least we'll have these underutilized APUs acting as a cooling spot on the chip surface.
 
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I wish AMD would stop being followers when it comes to marketing/naming/core design.
 
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Mobile part benchmark without battery life/power usage isn't really meaningful.

On Desktop, i wouldn't matter much but laptop performance can vary a lot due to cooling and battery life is really important.

The main target of this is Apple M chip and the new Qualcomm Snapdragon X series.

So in the end, if these results are at 15 watt, it's really great. If they are at max power, it's really meh. That is why without the power usage, it's just number in the wilds.
 

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They could have gone for a 6+8 configuration
They just went from 8 to 12 cores, that's enough. There's Dragon range and Fire range if you need more.
with 32MB of L3
Dragon range and Fire range have up to 128 MB. This isn't meant for discrete GPU's. Upcoming laptops that contradict this doesn't change anything, it's just manufacturers that are eager to sell Zen5 laptops.
or 24CUs,
Questionable if that would work well with this memory system.
Strix halo has 40 CU's.
 
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What I meant is that the NPU takes that much space, 24 CUs clocked lower would benefit battery life.
 
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The HX series will be marketed towards Laptop consumers that want performance while the Pro series are marketed towards business users, this particular one was probably in a Lenovo ThinkCentre and not a laptop.
 
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I wish AMD would have in included the 890M (16CU) with some of the lower skus. I'm most interested in that 16CU iGPU (the lack of of laptop models with just the APU and NO dGPU is infuriating to me), but I'd be perfectly happy with an 8 core CPU configuration.

I wish AMD would stop being followers when it comes to marketing/naming/core design.
The problem is that the overwhelming majority of consumers are completely uneducated and put zero effort into educating themselves on the products. They just go to best buy and the the salesperson there doesn't educate them either. For example, a coworker of mine needs a new laptop and he came to me because he knows I'm into computers....his conception of CPUs is stuck in 2005:

"Isn't AMD just a crappy budget option?" - coworker

See the vast majoruty of consumers basically have the words "intel" and "laptop" as synonymous in their head, they're interchangeable, so AMD is probably figuring that if they make their naming scheme similar to Intel's, it might aid these uneducated consumers in choosing their product and acting as a shorthand they can understand.
 
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I wish AMD would have in included the 890M (16CU) with some of the lower skus. I'm most interested in that 16CU iGPU (the lack of of laptop models with just the APU and NO dGPU is infuriating to me), but I'd be perfectly happy with an 8 core CPU configuration.


The problem is that the overwhelming majority of consumers are completely uneducated and put zero effort into educating themselves on the products. They just go to best buy and the the salesperson there doesn't educate them either. For example, a coworker of mine needs a new laptop and he came to me because he knows I'm into computers....his conception of CPUs is stuck in 2005:

"Isn't AMD just a crappy budget option?" - coworker

See the vast majoruty of consumers basically have the words "intel" and "laptop" as synonymous in their head, they're interchangeable, so AMD is probably figuring that if they make their naming scheme similar to Intel's, it might aid these uneducated consumers in choosing their product and acting as a shorthand they can understand.
I don't know, we buy a lot of things not being fully educated on the matter. They might read user reviews, but that's about it. When my wife wanted a new laptop, her requirements were a big screen and a full keyboard with number pad. The rest was pretty much up to me. It wasn't hard to top the laptop being replaced--an i3 dual core from 2015. I think as long as people feel they got something better than they had, it's good enough. A bit like buying a new car. They don't know all the ins-and-outs, but they know what they want, and that a newer car is better than an older car, at least typically.
 
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I wish AMD would have in included the 890M (16CU) with some of the lower skus. I'm most interested in that 16CU iGPU (the lack of of laptop models with just the APU and NO dGPU is infuriating to me), but I'd be perfectly happy with an 8 core CPU configuration.


The problem is that the overwhelming majority of consumers are completely uneducated and put zero effort into educating themselves on the products. They just go to best buy and the the salesperson there doesn't educate them either. For example, a coworker of mine needs a new laptop and he came to me because he knows I'm into computers....his conception of CPUs is stuck in 2005:

"Isn't AMD just a crappy budget option?" - coworker

See the vast majoruty of consumers basically have the words "intel" and "laptop" as synonymous in their head, they're interchangeable, so AMD is probably figuring that if they make their naming scheme similar to Intel's, it might aid these uneducated consumers in choosing their product and acting as a shorthand they can understand.
I wish I can find a laptop, 15 or 16in, with only the amd 7840hs processor. Good screen, 80+hw battery and good speakers.
 
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