Acer Regulatory Filings Reveal Radeon RX 7900, RX 7800, and RX 7700 non-XT GPUs

[btarunr]

Regulatory filings by PC OEM major Acer, with the Eurasian Economic Commission (EEC), drop some of the first references to three upcoming performance-segment graphics card SKUs by AMD. These include the Radeon RX 7900, the Radeon RX 7800, and the Radeon RX 7700. Acer is an AMD Radeon add-in board partner under its Acer Predator brand, which makes graphics cards not just for Predator and Nitro gaming PCs, but also graphics cards for the retail channel.

At this point, there are no specs known for the three, not even their memory sizes. It would be interesting to see how AMD slots the three into its product stack, particularly the RX 7900. The company currently has three RX 7900 series SKUs—the flagship RX 7900 XTX, and the second-best RX 7900 XT, but then the SKU next to this is the RX 7900 GRE, which saw a worldwide launch. Then there are the RX 7800 and RX 7700, which are pretty straightforward to predict. The RX 7800 will slot in between the RX 7700 XT and RX 7800 XT, and will probably feature a 256-bit wide memory interface with 16 GB of memory, much like the RX 7800 XT; whereas the RX 7700 will be positioned below the RX 7700 XT. It wouldn't surprise us if AMD further cuts down the memory interface to 160-bit (10 GB).



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[wolf]

Well I hope the RX 7800 is faster than the RX 6800, the 7800XT being broadly equal (and sometimes worse) than the 6800XT wasn't a great look. Having said that, all can be forgiven with price.

 

[Onasi]

I think at this point we’ve seen so many of these EEC filings that never actually materialized into anything that it’s not really a worthwhile source of information. But, eh, good to know anyway. Might be some OEM models for pre-builts only.

 

[Icon Charlie]

Well I hope the RX 7800 is faster than the RX 6800, the 7800XT being broadly equal (and sometimes worse) than the 6800XT wasn't a great look. Having said that, all can be forgiven with price.

Agreed.

AMD is dropping the ball here. These video cards which IMHO are nothing but chips that did not pas quality control (or cut down to get rid of them) are being made so they can make... mo mo mo money without much overhead involved.

They are just milking for whatever they can get on the XT series because these should have been out a long time ago.

 

[AusWolf]

Well I hope the RX 7800 is faster than the RX 6800, the 7800XT being broadly equal (and sometimes worse) than the 6800XT wasn't a great look. Having said that, all can be forgiven with price.

The 7800 XT is not a bad card, just one with a bad name. It should have been called the 7700 XT, while the 7700 XT should have been the non-XT from the start. Navi 32 is in no way a Navi 21 successor.

Personally, I'd like to hear more about RDNA 4, but AMD seems to be awfully quiet about it.

 

[Outback Bronze]

They are just milking for whatever they can get on the XT series because these should have been out a long time ago.

Yeah, these would have been good on release.

Just imagine if you could flash these to get the XT model, just like the old days.

If people found out they probably would have sold quite a few more as everybody likes getting something extra for free!

 

[wolf]

The 7800 XT is not a bad card, just one with a bad name. It should have been called the 7700 XT, while the 7700 XT should have been the non-XT from the start. Navi 32 is in no way a Navi 21 successor.

Agreed, the card itself is absolutely fine, it just has a poorly chosen name, and perhaps launch price, but still the name being bad is a blunder they could have easily averted.

Reminds me the fumble with the 6500XT name too, where when it launched it didn't meet the expectations that the name would bring, based on RDNA2 cards that launched before it.

 

[Sabotaged_Enigma]

Plenty of room for RX 7900, but hardly any for RX 7800 I think.
Get RDNA 4 ready faster plz

 

[Assimilator]

I thought RDNA 4 was supposed to be a refresh of RDNA 3? If so it would be rather strange to release "new" RDNA 3 SKUs, as opposed to waiting a little for RDNA 4... unless there are problems with the latter...

 

[Hyderz]

A bit unnecessary with non xt models the difference between models now are like less than 10% but I guess it’s more for oem desktops

 

[Daven]

I thought RDNA 4 was supposed to be a refresh of RDNA 3? If so it would be rather strange to release "new" RDNA 3 SKUs, as opposed to waiting a little for RDNA 4... unless there are problems with the latter...

No

 

[ARF]

No

What no? There are no issues with the upcoming RX 8700 XT? Why is it postponed?

AMD may lose a golden opportunity to beat Nvidia this year | Digital Trends

AMD has a good chance to dominate a portion of the GPU market in late 2024.

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[AusWolf]

I thought RDNA 4 was supposed to be a refresh of RDNA 3? If so it would be rather strange to release "new" RDNA 3 SKUs, as opposed to waiting a little for RDNA 4... unless there are problems with the latter...

A kind of refresh with a redesigned RT unit. Who knows, it might end up being more than that (or less).

 

[Daven]

What no? There are no issues with the upcoming RX 8700 XT? Why is it postponed?

AMD may lose a golden opportunity to beat Nvidia this year | Digital Trends

AMD has a good chance to dominate a portion of the GPU market in late 2024.

www.digitaltrends.com

No to RDNA4 being a refresh of RDNA3.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Well I hope the RX 7800 is faster than the RX 6800, the 7800XT being broadly equal (and sometimes worse) than the 6800XT wasn't a great look. Having said that, all can be forgiven with price.

The 7800 will need to be faster than the 6800 because the 7700 XT is already 3.5% faster than the 6800. There's not much performance wiggle room in there but there could be significant pricing room.

 

[Marcus L]

Agreed.

AMD is dropping the ball here. These video cards which IMHO are nothing but chips that did not pas quality control (or cut down to get rid of them) are being made so they can make... mo mo mo money without much overhead involved.

They are just milking for whatever they can get on the XT series because these should have been out a long time ago.

If they are chips that didn't make the cut as their XT counterparts how can there be little overhead? they have the same olverhead as the XT counterpart they couldn't quite make the cut for, what a weird comment, if anything they are making LESS money on these if that was the case? Should they just throw all silicon in the bin that doesn't make the top parts and carve out lower end parts a new?

 

[Craptacular]

Well I hope the RX 7800 is faster than the RX 6800, the 7800XT being broadly equal (and sometimes worse) than the 6800XT wasn't a great look. Having said that, all can be forgiven with price.

I can't say that I agree, in its price class the 7800 XT is the successor to the 6700 XT, so that makes it about 50% faster than the 6700 XT, that is not a bad gen over gen upgrade. 7800 XT is between the 6800 XT and 6900 XT in performance, yes there are a few games where it is below the 6800 XT but then again there are a few games where it is above the 6900 XT in performance as well.

In fact, if you take the MSRP of the 5700 XT and adjust that for inflation it would be $491, if you adjust the 6700 XT launch price for inflation it is $556.

Basically, AMD screwed up the naming. The 7900 XT is the true successor to the 6800 XT ($790 dollars MSRP adjusted for inflation), the 7900 GRE is the successor to the 6800 non-xt ($696 adjusted for inflation).

 

[wolf]

Basically, AMD screwed up the naming.

Precisely, pricing can forgive most things and as you say in the price class it was perhaps a different tier product, but the naming, given the overall performance was definitely a poor choice, and it hurt sales.

 

[Craptacular]

I thought RDNA 4 was supposed to be a refresh of RDNA 3? If so it would be rather strange to release "new" RDNA 3 SKUs, as opposed to waiting a little for RDNA 4... unless there are problems with the latter...

It is not, same way how RDNA 1 was not a refresh of Vega 2.

It is a new architecture with supposedly fixed function RT cores, meaning its RT performance should be significantly increased, we are talking an even larger leap than what the leap was between RDNA 2 and RDNA 3. The rumor is that due to chiplet issues they discovered with RDNA 3 meant that in order to fix the design issue and keep timelines from being delayed they had to cancel the high end of RDNA 4 and are going to be releasing the planned monolithic die they had always planned with RDNA 4 mid-range but because there is no planned high-end they can now push the midrange as hard as possible performance wise. RDNA 5 is going to see the return of the chiplet high end.

 

[AusWolf]

Precisely, pricing can forgive most things and as you say in the price class it was perhaps a different tier product, but the naming, given the overall performance was definitely a poor choice, and it hurt sales.

You can either name it the 7800 XT, and people will think that it's a poor upgrade choice for an x800 card, or name it the 7700 XT, and people will think it's too expensive for an x700 card. Kind of a lose-lose scenario.

 

[eidairaman1]

The 7800 will need to be faster than the 6800 because the 7700 XT is already 3.5% faster than the 6800. There's not much performance wiggle room in there but there could be significant pricing room.

So basically the 7700XT is the 6800 replacement and unless it you get a killer deal on the 6800 you might as well go with the 7700XT.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The 7800 XT is not a bad card, just one with a bad name. It should have been called the 7700 XT, while the 7700 XT should have been the non-XT from the start. Navi 32 is in no way a Navi 21 successor.

Personally, I'd like to hear more about RDNA 4, but AMD seems to be awfully quiet about it.

Both Nvidia and AMD screwed over customers with naming this gen. All AMD gpu's other than 7900XTX should be labelled a tier lower.

AMD might be quiet, but plenty of others are saying good things, and they are all in lock step on the performance being at least 7900XT in raster and much faster than 7900XTX in RTing all for about $500 in what will probably be called 8800XT. AMD are keeping quiet as they are trying to run out 7900 stock. It could release in a month or two if they wanted, but they don't want a repeat of the RDNA3 fiasco, where they had huge stockpiles of RDNA2 due to the crypto crash. So at this stage N48 is coming Q1 2025 but was once slated for late Q3 early Q4 this year. AMD does not want people holding off buying RDNA3.

 

[AusWolf]

Both Nvidia and AMD screwed over customers with naming this gen. All AMD gpu's other than 7900XTX should be labelled a tier lower.

AMD might be quiet, but plenty of others are saying good things, and they are all in lock step on the performance being at least 7900XT in raster and much faster than 7900XTX in RTing all for about $500 in what will probably be called 8800XT. AMD are keeping quiet as they are trying to run out 7900 stock. It could release in a month or two if they wanted, but they don't want a repeat of the RDNA3 fiasco, where they had huge stockpiles of RDNA2 due to the crypto crash. So at this stage N48 is coming Q1 2025 but was once slated for late Q3 early Q4 this year. AMD does not want people holding off buying RDNA3.

Yep. At first I thought skipping the holiday season is a mistake, but considering that Navi 48 is only gonna be at 7900 XT level in performance, they could just slap a massive discount on the 7900 XT instead and call it a day. Heck, if it helps clear any remaining RDNA 3 inventory, all the better for them. They're in no rush with RDNA 4 at all.