Is AMD starting to adopt the 12V-2x6 connector?

[lexluthermiester]

Well 200fps at 1440 UW isn't all that impressive to me for something so old lol.... Prior to swapping cpu I was cpu limited I am guessing never checked.



I keep this one on my system and run every new gpu on it lol Kinda crazy that the hair still looks impressive to me given the age.

Are you kidding? That is very impressive for such an old demo.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Are you kidding? That is very impressive for such an old demo.

The demo is extremely impressive looking given it's age for sure... Last time I ran it was at 4k and performance was much lower.

But yeah the more I think about it given that modern gpu's are likely not optimized to run it so 200fps isn't bad extra points for it supporting UW.

 

[AusWolf]

10 FPS? you lucky son of a gun, my recent FX1300 (PCX FX 5900) overclocked managed 0.971 fps in test 1 and 1.253 fps in test 2

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Hmm... I guess my memories faded a little bit. I remember that it ran badly, but not this badly. I had a Radeon 9600 XT, then an X800 XT and a GeForce 7800 GS, so I couldn't have had more than 5 FPS myself.

 

[wolf]

Are you kidding? That is very impressive for such an old demo.

The demo is extremely impressive looking given it's age for sure..

It's one I run as a screensaver and still impresses the casual passerby. Actually NFS shift running at 4k120 did a few weeks ago too, family member thought it was current gen

Hmm... I guess my memories faded a little bit. I remember that it ran badly, but not this badly. I had a Radeon 9600 XT, then an X800 XT and a GeForce 7800 GS, so I couldn't have had more than 5 FPS myself.

Well my X850XT at stock clocks was 8.307 fps and 10.655 fps for game test 1 and 2 respectively, I guess the GT1030 was really just that weak! and we all know how absolutely, shockingly and woefully bad the FX series was. I'm not testing a 5950 Ultra mind you, but the PCX 5900 was the full NV38 core and 256 bit bus, so it's essentially only lacking in clockspeed, I doubt an extra 12% core clock and 33% memory bandwidth would have worked many miracles.

Sorry for being so off topic all, but it's a fun discussion.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's one I run as a screensaver and still impresses the casual passerby. Actually NFS shift running at 4k120 did a few weeks ago too, family member thought it was current gen

Well my X850XT at stock clocks was 8.307 fps and 10.655 fps for game test 1 and 2 respectively, I guess the GT1030 was really just that weak! and we all know how absolutely, shockingly and woefully bad the FX series was. I'm not testing a 5950 Ultra mind you, but the PCX 5900 was the full NV38 core and 256 bit bus, so it's essentially only lacking in clockspeed, I doubt an extra 12% core clock and 33% memory bandwidth would have worked many miracles.

Sorry for being so off topic all, but it's a fun discussion.

Well, OT - but the problem with the GT 710/730 and the 1030 is the same, they're woefully starved for memory bandwidth even though it's one or two SMs present on the GPU core. I actually own a GT 710 with a physical PCIe x1 connector that I use for diagnostics - and had it on my E8600 build for a while. PCIe 1.1 x1 will saturate the bus before the GT 710's load maxes out, to the point that you cannot play 1080p/30fps video full speed on it if you have an OS compositor (such as Windows 7 Aero) running. It's one or the other. GPU-Z reports bus interface load at 99%. 1030s with GDDR5 have a significant advantage here, I reckon.

 

[AusWolf]

I guess the GT1030 was really just that weak!

No, the 1030 runs it fluently with no major stutters, this is the beauty of it.

 

[wolf]

Well, OT - but the problem with the GT 710/730 and the 1030 is the same, they're woefully starved for memory bandwidth even though it's one or two SMs present on the GPU core. I actually own a GT 710 with a physical PCIe x1 connector that I use for diagnostics - and had it on my E8600 build for a while. PCIe 1.1 x1 will saturate the bus before the GT 710's load maxes out, to the point that you cannot play 1080p/30fps video full speed on it if you have an OS compositor (such as Windows 7 Aero) running. It's one or the other. GPU-Z reports bus interface load at 99%. 1030s with GDDR5 have a significant advantage here, I reckon.

Even the rarer GT710 and GT730's with GDDR5 perform way better, I agree wholeheartedly. I procured several GT730 DDR3 models for cloned retro boxes purely because they already possessed above my target performance anyway, why spend the extra when it's not needed. A pci-e x1card makes a lot of sense for diagnostics or powering extra monitors in those tiny spare x1 ports.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Well 200fps at 1440 UW isn't all that impressive to me for something so old lol.... Prior to swapping cpu I was cpu limited I am guessing never checked.


I keep this one on my system and run every new gpu on it lol Kinda crazy that the hair still looks impressive to me given the age.


Oh and glad AMD is adopting the best connector ever made glad Asrock is leading the charge!!!!...... JK JK lol I really don't care what connector a card uses. I've said this before I tried extremely hard within the 30 day return period to get mine to burn, it's not even the newer revision but running nearly 600w in speedway for 96 hours straight while having it barely plugged in basically to where it wouldn't even work if it was any less plugged in couldn't make it happen for me..... I was honestly mildly disappointed I kinda wanted a reason not to keep a 1600 usd gpu lol.

200fps is impressive, my 2060 Super only manage 60-100fps at 1080p . Yeah the demo still looks impressive till this day. I downloaded several nvidia and ATi demos and kept them so I can run it every now and then, playing on native hardware it's meant. I wonder what sort of framerate the GPU it was meant to be run getting?

Ugh sorry for going out of topic, I blame R-T-B for giving me nostalgia trip , I'm an nvidia user, I don't change PSU often and I don't like to change PSU just to support this, nor that I like to use adapter, that is the main reason I don't like them

 

[londiste]

Truthfully, I miss tech demos.

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AMD has techdemos as well but I cannot find a nice linked list at this point.

 

[AusWolf]

1030s with GDDR5 have a significant advantage here, I reckon.

They do, up to 50-100% at times. The DDR4 version is probably the biggest scam in GPU history. Needless to say that mine is the GDDR5 version. It's only held back by the motherboard's PCI-e 2.0 interface (not by any detectable margin, though).

 

[wolf]

Latest Marbles RTX and Racer RTX are built on and available in Omniverse.

I've been meaning to try marbles.

AMD has techdemos as well but I cannot find a nice linked list at this point.

I haven't found a great list either, but not long ago I went searching to download all available Nvidia ones and found out they'd delisted seemingly all with Luna, Nalu, Dusk, Dawn, you know the patriarchy and what not , so anyway I found and downloaded them all so I have the complete list up till I believe they moved to Omniverse for the newer ones like marbles. If anyone's interested I can try find it but iirc it didn't take long to find.

 

[PierreJG]

Unfortunately, AMD will adopt this. This is how tech works. Back in the early 2000's I worked for the second biggest Computer Company in South Africa. Our Intel Representative told us AMD gave them the blueprint. Same with the Infiniti cache. Intel is going to use it on their new cpu's. Same with Raytracing. AMD had to adopt Raytracing but the only difference is yes, Nvidia's RTX is a lot better than AMD but AMDs selling point is not Raytracing, it is pure performance. Personally, I think Raytracing is not mature enough for the price they ask here. The 2080ti cost over 50k in South Africa when it was released. If I pay that much you better bloody well make sure I can Raytracing 8k max settings as you can get a proper second-hand car for cheaper. Another Example would be AMDs horrible CMT. On paper, it sounded like a great idea but when they did it practical it was horrible.

The Question always is, Who will come to the part first? Like we Saw with AMDs CMT. They took 9-10 years before they went SMT. It cost them a lot of clients because of their bad decision-making. Even with First Gen Ryzen, It was a horrible release. Got better over time. They are about equal with Intel now but the darlings of tech AMD here are not worth getting as you can get a 14th gen Intel CPU for the same price....

 

[Apocalypsee]

Download NVIDIA Tech Demos

Download free demos and experience how NVIDIA GeForce technology improves graphics and your games.

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Latest Marbles RTX and Racer RTX are built on and available in Omniverse.

NVIDIA Omniverse

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www.nvidia.com

AMD has techdemos as well but I cannot find a nice linked list at this point.

I found ATi demos, they are great too, there are several tech demos from other 3d manufacturer back then too. I liked Radeon 9700 car paint demo (using Ferrari F50), Pipe Dream and last but not least Toy Shop.

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[eidairaman1]

Unfortunately, AMD will adopt this. This is how tech works. Back in the early 2000's I worked for the second biggest Computer Company in South Africa. Our Intel Representative told us AMD gave them the blueprint. Same with the Infiniti cache. Intel is going to use it on their new cpu's. Same with Raytracing. AMD had to adopt Raytracing but the only difference is yes, Nvidia's RTX is a lot better than AMD but AMDs selling point is not Raytracing, it is pure performance. Personally, I think Raytracing is not mature enough for the price they ask here. The 2080ti cost over 50k in South Africa when it was released. If I pay that much you better bloody well make sure I can Raytracing 8k max settings as you can get a proper second-hand car for cheaper. Another Example would be AMDs horrible CMT. On paper, it sounded like a great idea but when they did it practical it was horrible.

The Question always is, Who will come to the part first? Like we Saw with AMDs CMT. They took 9-10 years before they went SMT. It cost them a lot of clients because of their bad decision-making. Even with First Gen Ryzen, It was a horrible release. Got better over time. They are about equal with Intel now but the darlings of tech AMD here are not worth getting as you can get a 14th gen Intel CPU for the same price....

When Ryzen 1 came out it caught intel off guard and it only got better as time went on.

 

[95Viper]

Let's get on topic.
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