Elden Ring suddenly Frame Drops

[Capitan Harlock]

Hi everyone , it's been a while since i asked help here on TPU. I have got 5 Months ago a Nvme SSD Lexar NM610PRO and a Pci e Adaptor because i'm still using my Main rig x79.
It's my main game drive and never got any issue.
I didn't got any issues until now suddely after last time i played the game Friday 19.
I tried everything . Tested the SSD speed. Changed Pci e port. Reinstalled the game 5 times.
Elden Ring is the only game that have issues and I keep getting this sluggish experience and frame drops from the Main Menu and into the game.
I even updated to the latest Gpu drivers but nothing changed.
I got no idea what else to do.
Tried even those game fixes people did since the release that i never had to do.
I'm out of ideas.

 

[P4-630]

Did you try an older version GPU driver?

 

[Klemc]

If you have to go older, 537.58 is the first to try/keep 2023-10 approx.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Did you try an older version GPU driver?

If you have to go older, 537.58 is the first to try/keep 2023-10 approx.

I was using 555.99 without any issue. I just runned out of ideas so i did upgrade to 560.70
I didn't had any issues like this Before last week. So i don't know if reverting back gpu drivers is gonna make a difference.

 

[Klemc]

Did Windows updated ?

 

[P4-630]

I didn't had any issues like this Before last week.

Windows updates, or other software changes perhaps?

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Did Windows updated ?

I tried to revert the latest update but nothing changed.

Windows updates, or other software changes perhaps?

I did try to revert the latest update but nothing changed in the game performance . I didn't install anything new.

 

[Klemc]

2024-7-04:

https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/14903191/

Try RT OFF first.

Possible unstable performance fixes​

• In some PC versions, Ray Tracing may be unintentionally enabled and cause unstable performance. Please check the Ray Tracing setting in the "System" > "Graphics Settings" > "Raytracing Quality" from the title screen or in-game menu.

In the PC version, unstable framerate may be caused by third party applications that control mouse behavior. Deactivating these third party applications may improve performance.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

2024-7-04:

https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/14903191/

Try RT OFF first.

I can't use RT i have a 1080 Ti . I never got any issues in perfomance and even with the lowest settings nothing changes.

 

[N/A]

CPU bottleneck. I see 40-50 in open areas.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

CPU bottleneck. I see 40-50 in open areas.

I usually do 60 and goes down to 55 but in closed areas and main menu was 60 always. You think is the cpu that just gave up? Because in other games heavier than Elden Ring i got no issue they run good as always. This cpu the Xeon E5 1650 v2 is like a 4930k . I never got issues in any game. Seems weird now all of a sudden is making Elden Ring just have framedrops in the main menu and in game out of nowhere. It should give me the same issue in other games.

 

[Frick]

I usually do 60 and goes down to 55 but in closed areas and main menu was 60 always. You think is the cpu that just gave up? Because in other games heavier than Elden Ring i got no issue they run good as always. This cpu the Xeon E5 1650 v2 is like a 4930k . I never got issues in any game. Seems weird now all of a sudden is making Elden Ring just have framedrops in the main menu and in game out of nowhere. It should give me the same issue in other games.

Have you previously played Elden Ring on this system without issues, or is it a new purchase?

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Have you previously played Elden Ring on this system without issues, or is it a new purchase?

Yes i have been playing elden ring for 600 hours with no issues. Even after the dlc no problems at all. Is something that started to happen this last Sunday.

This a screen shoot of SuperPosition with the 4k optimized preset that i just did .

And this is Crystal Disk on the Nvme ssd Lexar nm610pro

 

[N/A]

Shows 3500 MHz actually, probably wrong reading. that extra 1000 MHz makes all the difference.

 

[Klemc]

600 hours.?.!. backup your save/settings, start the game from start (with all settings from scratch), perhaps.

Elden Ring - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

www.pcgamingwiki.com

Also frame drop fixes part of the page look at:

Elden Ring - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

www.pcgamingwiki.com

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Shows 3500 MHz actually, probably wrong reading. that extra 1000 MHz makes all the difference.

Is Super Position doing the reading wrong , Now that is summer i'm running at 4.4 instead of 4.5.

600 hours.?.!. backup your save/settings, start the game from start (with all settings from scratch), perhaps.

Elden Ring - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

www.pcgamingwiki.com

Also frame drop fixes part of the page look at:

Elden Ring - PCGamingWiki PCGW - bugs, fixes, crashes, mods, guides and improvements for every PC game

www.pcgamingwiki.com

I already do that , the problem is the game even after installing it from scratch 5 times , even deleting everything related to it keeps running bad. LIke the fps in main menu and in game goes from 60 to 1 in millisecond is a constant framedrop and slowmo. I never got a problem like that .

i did try latency mon and i got this report with elden ring open, i don't have speed step and virtualization on. Otherwise i coulnd't have a stable oc. I tried to lower the voltage and the oc a bit more but nothing was different from this report.
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CONCLUSION
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Your system appears to be having trouble handling real-time audio and other tasks. You are likely to experience buffer underruns appearing as drop outs, clicks or pops. One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running in your
system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to power management, disable CPU throttling settings in Control Panel and BIOS setup. Check for BIOS updates.
LatencyMon has been analyzing your system for 0:07:01 (h:mm:ss) on all processors.


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SYSTEM INFORMATION
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Computer name: DESKTOP-7TP3B0T
OS version: Windows 10, 10.0, version 2009, build: 19045 (x64)
Hardware: System Product Name, System manufacturer
BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/25/14 09:03:52 Ver: 48.01
CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1650 v2 @ 3.50GHz
Logical processors: 12
Processor groups: 1
Processor group size: 12
RAM: 16325 MB total


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CPU SPEED
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Reported CPU speed (WMI): 3501 MHz
Reported CPU speed (registry): 3423 MHz

Note: reported execution times may be calculated based on a fixed reported CPU speed. Disable variable speed settings like Intel Speed Step and AMD Cool N Quiet in the BIOS setup for more accurate results.


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MEASURED INTERRUPT TO USER PROCESS LATENCIES
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The interrupt to process latency reflects the measured interval that a usermode process needed to respond to a hardware request from the moment the interrupt service routine started execution. This includes the scheduling and
execution of a DPC routine, the signaling of an event and the waking up of a usermode thread from an idle wait state in response to that event.

Highest measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 11236,80
Average measured interrupt to process latency (µs): 12,924882

Highest measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 11234,20
Average measured interrupt to DPC latency (µs): 10,029670


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REPORTED ISRs
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Interrupt service routines are routines installed by the OS and device drivers that execute in response to a hardware interrupt signal.

Highest ISR routine execution time (µs): 143,079755
Driver with highest ISR routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total ISR routine time (%): 0,042805
Driver with highest ISR total time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in ISRs (%) 0,069814

ISR count (execution time <250 µs): 476243
ISR count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 500-1000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 0
ISR count (execution time >=4000 µs): 0


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REPORTED DPCs
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DPC routines are part of the interrupt servicing dispatch mechanism and disable the possibility for a process to utilize the CPU while it is interrupted until the DPC has finished execution.

Highest DPC routine execution time (µs): 11398,481449
Driver with highest DPC routine execution time: USBPORT.SYS - Driver porta USB 1.1 & 2.0, Microsoft Corporation

Highest reported total DPC routine time (%): 0,040574
Driver with highest DPC total execution time: ntoskrnl.exe - NT Kernel & System, Microsoft Corporation

Total time spent in DPCs (%) 0,205768

DPC count (execution time <250 µs): 8360396
DPC count (execution time 250-500 µs): 0
DPC count (execution time 500-10000 µs): 54
DPC count (execution time 1000-2000 µs): 100
DPC count (execution time 2000-4000 µs): 204
DPC count (execution time >=4000 µs): 63


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REPORTED HARD PAGEFAULTS
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Hard pagefaults are events that get triggered by making use of virtual memory that is not resident in RAM but backed by a memory mapped file on disk. The process of resolving the hard pagefault requires reading in the memory from disk
while the process is interrupted and blocked from execution.

NOTE: some processes were hit by hard pagefaults. If these were programs producing audio, they are likely to interrupt the audio stream resulting in dropouts, clicks and pops. Check the Processes tab to see which programs were hit.

Process with highest pagefault count: eldenring.exe

Total number of hard pagefaults 33441
Hard pagefault count of hardest hit process: 25468
Number of processes hit: 51


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PER CPU DATA
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CPU 0 Interrupt cycle time (s): 14,287985
CPU 0 ISR highest execution time (µs): 143,079755
CPU 0 ISR total execution time (s): 3,228779
CPU 0 ISR count: 425465
CPU 0 DPC highest execution time (µs): 11398,481449
CPU 0 DPC total execution time (s): 5,887001
CPU 0 DPC count: 1560923
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CPU 1 Interrupt cycle time (s): 2,860143
CPU 1 ISR highest execution time (µs): 85,830266
CPU 1 ISR total execution time (s): 0,299182
CPU 1 ISR count: 49909
CPU 1 DPC highest execution time (µs): 11385,061350
CPU 1 DPC total execution time (s): 0,681534
CPU 1 DPC count: 289852
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CPU 2 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,236208
CPU 2 ISR highest execution time (µs): 10,349401
CPU 2 ISR total execution time (s): 0,004523
CPU 2 ISR count: 793
CPU 2 DPC highest execution time (µs): 7201,368975
CPU 2 DPC total execution time (s): 0,570109
CPU 2 DPC count: 627276
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CPU 3 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,168281
CPU 3 ISR highest execution time (µs): 7,628396
CPU 3 ISR total execution time (s): 0,000431
CPU 3 ISR count: 76
CPU 3 DPC highest execution time (µs): 264,244814
CPU 3 DPC total execution time (s): 0,392658
CPU 3 DPC count: 1330078
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CPU 4 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,542132
CPU 4 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 4 ISR count: 0
CPU 4 DPC highest execution time (µs): 4392,290681
CPU 4 DPC total execution time (s): 0,604973
CPU 4 DPC count: 978328
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CPU 5 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,954034
CPU 5 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 5 ISR count: 0
CPU 5 DPC highest execution time (µs): 56,783523
CPU 5 DPC total execution time (s): 0,177147
CPU 5 DPC count: 375622
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CPU 6 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,570327
CPU 6 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 6 ISR count: 0
CPU 6 DPC highest execution time (µs): 3998,020158
CPU 6 DPC total execution time (s): 0,609266
CPU 6 DPC count: 997400
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CPU 7 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,541529
CPU 7 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 7 ISR count: 0
CPU 7 DPC highest execution time (µs): 55,687409
CPU 7 DPC total execution time (s): 0,131833
CPU 7 DPC count: 225845
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CPU 8 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,149399
CPU 8 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 8 ISR count: 0
CPU 8 DPC highest execution time (µs): 4838,447561
CPU 8 DPC total execution time (s): 0,554208
CPU 8 DPC count: 808546
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CPU 9 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,992069
CPU 9 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 9 ISR count: 0
CPU 9 DPC highest execution time (µs): 3881,549810
CPU 9 DPC total execution time (s): 0,149078
CPU 9 DPC count: 235509
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CPU 10 Interrupt cycle time (s): 3,104021
CPU 10 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 10 ISR count: 0
CPU 10 DPC highest execution time (µs): 5995,046743
CPU 10 DPC total execution time (s): 0,517205
CPU 10 DPC count: 738192
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CPU 11 Interrupt cycle time (s): 1,906920
CPU 11 ISR highest execution time (µs): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR total execution time (s): 0,0
CPU 11 ISR count: 0
CPU 11 DPC highest execution time (µs): 3999,532866
CPU 11 DPC total execution time (s): 0,137760
CPU 11 DPC count: 193246
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[SHADOW MAN]

Not for nothing, Elden Ring has issues across the board. It’s a great game, but microstutters and performance issues has plagued it since day 1, across a myriad of platforms.

Maybe it was a poo poo update on Windows, graphics drivers, or the game itself.

If you’re feeling saucy, DDU and reinstall your GPU drivers and reinstall the game as well.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Not for nothing, Elden Ring has issues across the board. It’s a great game, but microstutters and performance issues has plagued it since day 1, across a myriad of platforms.

Maybe it was a poo poo update on Windows, graphics drivers, or the game itself.

If you’re feeling saucy, DDU and reinstall your GPU drivers and reinstall the game as well.

I did reinstall the game 8 times now, i will try to ddu and reinstall the gpu drivers again but . The problem is very weird because Is the only game doing like this. I even tested Mh world that is way heavier to run that ER and runs smooth with no issues.

 

[Klemc]

8x70=560 GB !!!!!!!!

Man, once installed/checked it's enough, SSD is not infinite lifespan on writes everyday all that data.

Just wait a week and retry to launch it.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

8x70=560 GB !!!!!!!!

Man, once installed/checked it's enough, SSD is not infinite lifespan on writes everyday all that data.

Just wait a week and retry to launch it.

Well i tough it would fix the issue reinstalling it. I know they don't have infinite life

 

[N/A]

Elden ring runs primarily on one main thread, loading the core fully, and the others are shared equally. every time there are two therads running on one core they share a 25% performance increase divided by two so each gets 60% and that's something you can't control, it's completely random.

Now I'm on the first step and getting 38-48 fps with 3.2 GHz 6/12 threads enabled. and xeon V4 IPC is roughly equal to 4.0 GHz of that of V2

GPU is 50% loaded at max settings without RT 1440p. so i guess it maxes out at 4K at 40 FPS.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Elden ring runs primarily on one main thread, loading the core fully, and the others are shared equally. every time there are two therads running on one core they share a 25% performance increase divided by two so each gets 60% and that's something you can't control, it's completely random.

Now I'm on the first step and getting 38-48 fps with 3.2 GHz 6/12 threads enabled. and xeon V4 IPC is roughly equal to 4.0 GHz of that of V2

GPU is 50% loaded at max settings without RT 1440p. so i guess it maxes out at 4K at 40 FPS.

I don't use AA either . Like i said . I never got this issue with ER and in any other games . Now i wonder why only ER is affected like this.
I did DDu and reinstalled the gpu drivers just for kicks and nothing changed.

 

[N/A]

No Ray tracing, i use only AA as part of the max preset. Latest patch was on the 6th. Sometimes patches are braking the game. And the expansion DLC is heavier overall.

For me the game was always broken, CPU is holding back the GPU by 50%, so I'm surprised it worked fine in the first place. You have to verify whether the GPU is fully loaded and clock speeds are not throttling or something.

In my tests 12/12 vs 6/12 proved to be 10% better not because of more cores but the lack of hyperthreading that is interfering with the main game thread or process that benefits being alone on that core. And you can't guarantee that unless micromanage what program runs on what cores, that's crazy.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

No Ray tracing, i use only AA as part of the max preset. Latest patch was on the 6th. Sometimes patches are braking the game. And the expansion DLC is heavier overall.

For me the game was always broken, CPU is holding back the GPU by 50%, so I'm surprised it worked fine in the first place. You have to verify whether the GPU is fully loaded and clock speeds are not throttling or something.

In my tests 12/12 vs 6/12 proved to be 10% better not because of more cores but the lack of hyperthreading that is interfering with the main game thread or process that benefits being alone on that core. And you can't guarantee that unless micromanage what program runs on what cores, that's crazy.

I never got any issue since release. Same for when the dlc got released no problems at all. It's really weird why all of a sudden does like this. Today i noticed that Elden ring compared to Lords of the Fallen is using less the SSd. Like the reading is very slow. I don't understand how in other games is all fine and only in ER the reading from the ssd is super low. I will try to formatt the ssd and see if that fixed the issue with it or not.

Update. I did formatted the SSD and nothing , The game runs very bad and as i said if i open task manager i can see the ssd usage being very low with very poor reading speed when i play ER. I got no idea

While looking online for solutions i stumbled upon one that i didn't consider that seems to match my problem but i can't understand why all of sudden i would have this issue.
The problem is the game or window keep searching for devices to make the game interact with but i never got this issue. When i move the pad the mouse goes away so the game does see my periferals.
Seems weird that could cause this issue.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Update: This morning i tried to start the game just to see if something fixed itself and i noticed something . Both the ssd and the gpu where working fine and infact the game was running great. When i closed it to see what was happening i noticed that the nvidia control pannel wasn't working. I did another ddu and reinstalled the gpu drivers again just to be sure. Tried again and with task manager i noticed this weird thing. The ssd and the gpu most of the time they like don't care to work for elden ring. When they do the game runs fine. Now how i fix this weird problem? The ssd should always read data when i'm using anything on it. The gpu should do the same when i run a 3d game in full screen or in general. I don't get it.

Update: I solved it ,the issue was my sound drivers for the motherboard sound had the front headphone jack going on and off in the audio devices . I unistalled the drivers and reinstalled them the headphone jack stopped going on and off and now everything works fine. I can't believe something like this was making the whole game cripple. It's so weird was affecting only ER and no other games.
Aniway thanks for everyone that helped. I will keep and eye out for something like that in the future .