Help me pick an mATX b650 board for 7800X3D

[Vayra86]

Its time to get rid of my 8700K and unleash the 7900XT proper! 7800X3D time.

Im looking for the best board and RAM to pair with this cpu and frankly Im a bit lost in the woods.

Im sold on this case though, the smaller size and build options here are pretty awesome.. lots of power in a small enclosure and it seems my 330mm length GPU and ye olde Supernova G2 PSU is going to fit just fine alongside (possibly) the old Dark Rock Pro 3. Or do I need something better for these newer CPUs? Its going to be air though.

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Key points for board choice;
- Good audio chip. How OK is the ALC897 vs the ALC1200? I also want an optical out.

- How big do I need to go VRM wise?

- What RAM pairs well at 6000MT/s. Currently eyeing this set

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- Solid storage capabilities though those seem pretty similar across most boards in the sub 200 EUR range.

- Im also considering to put a Honeywell PTM thermal pad on this CPU instead of paste. Also, any other do's or donts? Enlighten me

Ive been partial to the Asrock Riptide, all good experiences with the brand so far and it looks competitive... just no ALC1200 but ALC897 on it. Pref not a Gigabyte board (the options seem subpar too, but feel free to convince me otherwise If its a great value option Im game.

 

[Blaeza]

Its time to get rid of my 8700K and unleash the 7900XT proper! 7800X3D time.

Im looking for the best board and RAM to pair with this cpu and frankly Im a bit lost in the woods.

Im sold on this case though, the smaller size and build options here are pretty awesome.. lots of power in a small enclosure and it seems my 330mm length GPU and ye olde Supernova G2 PSU is going to fit just fine alongside (possibly) the old Dark Rock Pro 3. Or do I need something better for these newer CPUs? Its going to be air though.

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Key points for board choice;
- Good audio chip. How OK is the ALC897 vs the ALC1200? I also want an optical out.

- How big do I need to go VRM wise?

- What RAM pairs well at 6000MT/s. Currently eyeing this set

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- Solid storage capabilities though those seem pretty similar across most boards in the sub 200 EUR range.

- Im also considering to put a Honeywell PTM thermal pad on this CPU instead of paste. Also, any other do's or donts? Enlighten me

Ive been partial to the Asrock Riptide, all good experiences with the brand so far and it looks competitive... just no ALC1200 but ALC897 on it. Pref not a Gigabyte board (the options seem subpar too, but feel free to convince me otherwise If its a great value option Im game.

(Can't believe I'm doing this)
RAM advice! I'm using G-Skill Trident Z5 neo rgb at 6000 cl30
(Warning, I'm a n00b so wait for others advice too)

 

[Klemc]

Since Intel fiasco i read 7800x3d everywhere, there will be stock to be restocked soon...

Tobascouz advised me KF560C32RSK2-32, there is BEAST DOCP counterpart, but this XMP for me look the best (zero problem at all XMP settings even Asus Tweaked, 1.1 SoC...).
I had Arctic Freezer II, buyed III, III is noisy, verry more perf in counterparty (70 buck btw, not 110).
The best MB is B650E-E, but not mATX i think

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G-Skill are the RAM i seen reported always in all RAM problems since 7800x3d out (jfyi)... context restore, xmp docp, burnt x3d (ALL)

 

[Vayra86]

Since Intel fiasco i read 7800x3d everywhere, there will be stock to be restocked soon...

Tobascouz advised me KF560C32RSK2-32, there is BEAST DOCP counterpart, but this XMP for me look the best (zero problem at all XMP settings even Asus Tweaked, 1.1 SoC...).
I had Arctic Freezer II, buyed III, III is noisy, verry more perf in counterparty (70 buck btw, not 110).
The best MB is B650E-E, but not mATX i think

//

G-Skill are the RAM i seen reported always in all RAM problems since 7800x3d out (jfyi)... context restore, xmp docp, burnt x3d (ALL)

Even prior to the Intel fiasco which I knew was coming eventually because theyve gone to shit ... a CPU doing 60w for top perf is a no brainer to me esp in a small enclosure. Its just too good to pass up

 

[gffermari]

I think you should wait about a week for the 9000 series to be released.
So you can get the 7800X3D slightly cheaper or reconsider the choice if any of the 9000 makes sense.

 

[Klemc]

So, the FURRY XMP Renegade or Beast DOCP:

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KF560C30BBEK2-32

 

[Vayra86]

I think you should wait about a week for the 9000 series to be released.
So you can get the 7800X3D slightly cheaper or reconsider the choice if any of the 9000 makes sense.

Oh yeah this timing isnt coincidental

 

[Double-Click]

If you're not trying to break the bank the B650M Mortar looks good, power phases / VRM cooling both fine.
You won't get Gen 5 PCIe, but 4.0x16 isn't saturated yet at all, and Gen 4 drives are still fine in my book (not flaming fireballs).

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After that you're looking at another $100+ for something with Gen 5 like the Project Zero version, Aorus Elite AX, TUF Gaming B650M etc.

 

[tabascosauz]

Its time to get rid of my 8700K and unleash the 7900XT proper! 7800X3D time.

Im looking for the best board and RAM to pair with this cpu and frankly Im a bit lost in the woods.

Im sold on this case though, the smaller size and build options here are pretty awesome.. lots of power in a small enclosure and it seems my 330mm length GPU and ye olde Supernova G2 PSU is going to fit just fine alongside (possibly) the old Dark Rock Pro 3. Or do I need something better for these newer CPUs? Its going to be air though.

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The LIAN LI & DAN Cases A3-mATX is a versatile M-ATX mesh PC case that maintains a minimal chassis size while accommodating large components. Thanks to the relocatable PSU bracket, the A3-mATX empowers you to build a powerful and compact PC system tailored to your needs and preferences...

lian-li.com

Key points for board choice;
- Good audio chip. How OK is the ALC897 vs the ALC1200? I also want an optical out.

- How big do I need to go VRM wise?

- What RAM pairs well at 6000MT/s. Currently eyeing this set

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- Solid storage capabilities though those seem pretty similar across most boards in the sub 200 EUR range.

- Im also considering to put a Honeywell PTM thermal pad on this CPU instead of paste. Also, any other do's or donts? Enlighten me

Ive been partial to the Asrock Riptide, all good experiences with the brand so far and it looks competitive... just no ALC1200 but ALC897 on it. Pref not a Gigabyte board (the options seem subpar too, but feel free to convince me otherwise If its a great value option Im game.

You hardly even need a VRM at all for a 7800X3D. Some mATX boards are a little light on their VRMs (mainly the Gigabyte 6 phase ones, e.g. Gaming X) but they're all DrMOS so it's not much of a concern. Riptide is probably one of the strongest options.

Just stay away from the vast majority of the Asus mATX boards (TUF ok). They didn't get the memo and are still using discrete configs that would be considered garbage even for AM4. Stay away from some of the lowest end mATX MSIs for the same reason.

The Corsair kit is Hynix, thus it should be good. 6000CL30 is a good decent bin. You can go all the way up to (some) 6000CL34 without becoming non-Hynix. At 5600 I think some CL30 kits are still Hynix. Just look for a big gap between tCL and tRCD on the XMP.

I'm not sure I would waste PTM7950 on a CPU with a heatspreader. It works its magic on direct die applications and idk if that phase change characteristic is going to negatively affect cooling if IHS is in play. If you wanna splurge, go for some Kryosheet or something. Accomplishes much the same but should perform noticeably better here.

ALC897 isn't insufferable like some of the even lower end stuff is (ie. ALC887), but neither is ALC1200 amazing. Just get a cheap DAC or audio interface for your headphones, if you are worried