AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT

[Hitesh12]

On the The Witcher 3 page it says, "There's too many issues with the Enhanced Edition right now, so we'll be testing the original a little longer."

Is that regarding the update that introduces RT and FSR/DLSS?

 

[Dr. Dro]

On the The Witcher 3 page it says, "There's too many issues with the Enhanced Edition right now, so we'll be testing the original a little longer."

Is that regarding the update that introduces RT and FSR/DLSS?

Yes. Said issues should be resolved by now, though

 

[Mitchel78]

my xfx 319 quick 7800xt becomes instant unstable if i just look at the switches in wattman. not even the stock settings are stable under all conditions. tried everythin, disable rebar, rollback drivers ... i have no idea how to get tis card stable.

 

[AusWolf]

not even the stock settings are stable under all conditions.

Then something must be wrong with the card. RMA maybe?

 

[OscarPill]

Is it normal that there are 7700xt models listed along the 7800xt on the Temperature and Fan noise page ? If not, how noisy is the 7800xt Sapphire Pulse ?

 

[AusWolf]

how noisy is the 7800xt Sapphire Pulse ?

As long as your case has good airflow, it's whisper quiet.

 

[Octavean]

Now it seems as if it’s a bit of a toss-up between the 7800XT and the 7900GRE (~$50 give or take). However the price drop on the 7700XT makes it a bit more palatable the. It was before if you can’t step up to the 7800XT.

 

[JustBuyLianLi]

Picked one up for around $415usd which is around what a 4060ti and 7700xt are currently going for here in Canada. They named it wrong as it’s more like what the 7700xt should have been and the 7600xt should have been as far as generational uplift goes. While it is a discount vs the 6800xt price was originally, a $450 price point would have made more sense given the 6800xt was $650 and that’s a 4 year old card.

That being said, the uplift over my 3060 has been insanely good, especially in Helldivers 2 where frames fell to 10-20fps in intense battles with automatons, drop ships and projectiles flying all around the screen and this was only on 1080p. This is with a 5700x3d too. I was told it's due to the game being too cpu heavy. The game engine is pretty old though, so I didn't expect a gpu upgrade to help as much as I'd like it to. Now I'm able to play on 1440p and while frames aren't as high as I think they would be in other games, it's still most of the time 80-100+ and drops remain at or around 60fps which is a much more smoother experience.

 

[Chrispy_]

Picked one up for around $415usd which is around what a 4060ti and 7700xt are currently going for here in Canada. They named it wrong as it’s more like what the 7700xt should have been and the 7600xt should have been as far as generational uplift goes. While it is a discount vs the 6800xt price was originally, a $450 price point would have made more sense given the 6800xt was $650 and that’s a 4 year old card.

Having had my 7800XT for almost a year now, I think I can say that the reduced power draw over the 6800XT is welcome and newer games seem to prefer RDNA3 over RDNA2.

Whilst the 7800XT was basically a like-for-like sidegrade with the games tested in 2023, the 2024 benchmark suite puts the 7800XT 11% ahead in RT-enabled titles and 5-6% ahead in non-RT games:

They named it wrong as it’s more like what the 7700xt should have been

I guess the real naming error was the 6800XT and that's what's skewing your perception.

The 6800XT should have been called a vanilla 6900 as it's the same silicon at the 6900XT with the exact same power budget, bandwidth, VRAM, cache, ROP count and 90% of the shader count. The reduced shader count actually just means that the 6800XT boosts higher at the same power budget so unless you manually tune the two cards, the difference between them is almost insignificant.

Compared to the "vanilla RX 6900" as I'm calling it, the 7800XT is a full tier lower than the 6800XT in terms of the product stack; AMD just fudged the naming last gen which is why this generation can't be compared against it like for like. This isn't new to AMD either - they did the same thing moving from Radeon HD 5000 to Radeon HD 6000 before the GCN architecture days, and there was definitely some naming/tier shenanigans going on in the early GCN days between 4 generations of the same old Pitcairn silicon from the HD 7000-series all the way to the R7 300-series!

 

[tfdsaf]

Just picked one up for 450 euros, its pretty much tied to the 4070ti in terms of performance at 1440p and has more Vram, while being 300 euros cheaper.

I went from the GTX 760 to the GTX 1060 6GB to the RX 5700XT to the RX 7800XT. Each decision has been amazing and I've been getting gigantic value out of each of these GPU's. Literally best value cards at the time.

Almost 150% faster performance from the 760 to the 1060 6gb, then around 80% faster performance from the 1060 to the 5700xt and now now over 100% performance going from the 5700Xt to the 7800XT.

I feel sorry for people who went from something like the 2070 to something like the 4070 vanilla, its just so awful and barely any performance gain at very low value.

 

[ARF]

I don't like it, and will never buy it because of the high power consumption.

Must be 2 W:

Must be 9 W:

Must be 10 W:

Must be 175 W:

Must be 175 W (no power spikes at all):

Is Counter-Strike 2 already fixed?

 

[Chrispy_]

You're unhappy that it's not as efficient as Nvidia's monolithic products, using a more expensive, smaller TSMC node?

I mean, duh! Of course a chiplet design uses more power, and it's TSMC N5 and N6, not TSMC N4. Power consumption wouldn't even be the same as Nvidia even if AMD used TSMC N4!

If you want power efficiency, pay the $800 for the 4070Ti which matches it for raster performance. You save $300 buying a 7800XT and obviously you don't get like for like since the chiplets will always have higher idle power and the RT performance isn't at the same level as Nvidia.

 

[Vya Domus]

(no power spikes at all):

Even your beloved Nvidia cards have power spikes well over their rated TDP, you live in fantasy land.

 

[Darkholm]

Even your beloved Nvidia cards have power spikes well over their rated TDP, you live in fantasy land.

Right on. Ampere based cards based on el-cheapo and el-crapolla Samsung 8nm waffer was the supreme king of power spikes. I had 3090 Palit GameRock and that was the ultimate piece of crap card. Sold it couple of hours after purchase for the same amount.

 

[ARF]

Even your beloved Nvidia cards have power spikes well over their rated TDP, you live in fantasy land.

Why trolling? This is your beloved brand, not mine.
Power spikes are like viruses, should find a medicine and heal them

 

[Vya Domus]

Yeah bro I am the one trolling, totally not you saying a bunch of nonsense of what "must be" and must not be, as if anyone should even care.

 

[JustBuyLianLi]

Having had my 7800XT for almost a year now, I think I can say that the reduced power draw over the 6800XT is welcome and newer games seem to prefer RDNA3 over RDNA2.

Whilst the 7800XT was basically a like-for-like sidegrade with the games tested in 2023, the 2024 benchmark suite puts the 7800XT 11% ahead in RT-enabled titles and 5-6% ahead in non-RT games:

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I guess the real naming error was the 6800XT and that's what's skewing your perception.

The 6800XT should have been called a vanilla 6900 as it's the same silicon at the 6900XT with the exact same power budget, bandwidth, VRAM, cache, ROP count and 90% of the shader count. The reduced shader count actually just means that the 6800XT boosts higher at the same power budget so unless you manually tune the two cards, the difference between them is almost insignificant.

Compared to the "vanilla RX 6900" as I'm calling it, the 7800XT is a full tier lower than the 6800XT in terms of the product stack; AMD just fudged the naming last gen which is why this generation can't be compared against it like for like. This isn't new to AMD either - they did the same thing moving from Radeon HD 5000 to Radeon HD 6000 before the GCN architecture days, and there was definitely some naming/tier shenanigans going on in the early GCN days between 4 generations of the same old Pitcairn silicon from the HD 7000-series all the way to the R7 300-series!

The 4060ti was bashed for good reason as performance wasn't really better than a 3060ti, so aside from being more power efficient and the newer features like AV1 and frame generation, many said it was either a 50 class, or should have been the actual 4060 vanilla the 4060 should have been a 4050 with the AD107 die. Nvidia used the naming all the cards a tier or two above where they would be if it were an actual generational performance uplift gave them the excuse to price it the same as the previous generation. They almost tried to call the 4070 ti a 4080, and even after they "fixed" the name, it still was overpriced as it was still more expensive than previous gen 80 class