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Not super familiar with the benefits of Optane, what are the advantages of this over a more traditional M.2 NVMe SSD? Genuine question
 
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Tropick said:
Not super familiar with the benefits of Optane, what are the advantages of this over a more traditional M.2 NVMe SSD? Genuine question
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Sustained read and writes and doesn't slow down as it gets full.
 
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Not super familiar with the benefits of Optane, what are the advantages of this over a more traditional M.2 NVMe SSD? Genuine question
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My understanding is much higher endurance, not needing power loss protection, unbeatable in random IO at low queue depths, and what Steevo said.
Good for things like VM's, Databases, Caches, things that have high random I/O.
 
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Tropick said:
Not super familiar with the benefits of Optane, what are the advantages of this over a more traditional M.2 NVMe SSD? Genuine question
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Low latency and high endurance.

A 905p is a step up in terms of responsiveness and performance as a boot or game drive over any NAND SSD. They are ideal for cache drives as well.

That said, there's isn't a huge gap between a 905p and other high end SSDs nowadays. 2nd gen Optane is really where it's at but the price tag is significantly higher.

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Sustained read and writes and doesn't slow down as it gets full.
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For gen2 Optane yes but gen1 optane has been surpassed by good traditional NAND SSDs in sustained writes. Gen1 optane like the 905p can sustain 2.5 GB/s while some PCIe 4.0 drives like the Teamgroup Cardea Z44Q can sustain a constant 4 GB/s.
 
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it's random read/write on optane that kicks ass. doubt even the latest nand can equal their +300/400 MB/s at 4K random r/w. I've seen a few ssds do 100mb/s read - up to 300mb/s write but not optane speed yet.

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Of course I doubt you'll ever notice the difference irw and I'd much rather have a 4TB 232-L tlc ssd for that $250.
 
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Zazigalka said:
it's random read/write on optane that kicks ass. doubt even the latest nand can equal their +300/400 MB/s at 4K random r/w. I've seen a few ssds do 100mb/s read - up to 300mb/s write but not optane speed yet.

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Of course I doubt you'll ever notice the difference irw and I'd much rather have a 4TB 232-L tlc ssd for that $250.
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Yes, due to fundamental limitations of NAND, it will never match Optane for random reads at low queue depths which is the most relevant metric for most consumer workloads. However, NAND is fast enough that you are unlikely to notice the difference outside of benchmarking.
 
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Tropick said:
Not super familiar with the benefits of Optane, what are the advantages of this over a more traditional M.2 NVMe SSD? Genuine question
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Just for comparison at a glance on my machine with Optane on my 2nd PCIe slot and NVMe (on the primary M.2 slot from the CPU).
(opinion) Unless you have a specific use case for Optane a normal NVMe is what most people should get for the price/performance/capacity value.
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Low latency and high endurance.

A 905p is a step up in terms of responsiveness and performance as a boot or game drive over any NAND SSD. They are ideal for cache drives as well.

That said, there's isn't a huge gap between a 905p and other high end SSDs nowadays. 2nd gen Optane is really where it's at but the price tag is significantly higher.

For gen2 Optane yes but gen1 optane has been surpassed by good traditional NAND SSDs in sustained writes. Gen1 optane like the 905p can sustain 2.5 GB/s while some PCIe 4.0 drives like the Teamgroup Cardea Z44Q can sustain a constant 4 GB/s.
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To get a sense of scope regarding daily endurance I found this online calculator. In terms of endurance the gap is pretty huge.

( https://wintelguy.com/dwpd-tbw-gbday-calc.pl )
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This deal is still available. If you got the prior deal for the 1.5TB version with the $20 gift card (and haven't used it yet) it's possible to get this deal under $200 (with shipping in the US).
 
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It would be nice to have a unkillable SSD for writes, but $200 a bit much when I can buy cheap $50 1TB and run them into the ground.
 
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Just picked one of these up today for my new rig.
 
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I'm on the fence because i'm not sure if prices will fall further. I've been eyeing it for a year and there's been a steady decline in price but i'm not sure if it'll fall even more in a couple of months as I need it by then.

Edit: Is there a way to check newegg's price history?
 
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I'm on the fence because i'm not sure if prices will fall further. I've been eyeing it for a year and there's been a steady decline in price but i'm not sure if it'll fall even more in a couple of months as I need it by then.

Edit: Is there a way to check newegg's price history?
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Use pcpartpioker.
 
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mkppo said:
I'm on the fence because i'm not sure if prices will fall further. I've been eyeing it for a year and there's been a steady decline in price but i'm not sure if it'll fall even more in a couple of months as I need it by then.
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Well, the M.2 variant of the Optane just sold out at Amazon (the only ones who had it cheap). To me it looks like there is demand and an obviously limited supply.

Of course being U.2 will limit how many muggles will buy such a drive.
 
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Just picked one of these up today for my new rig.
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Mine was supposed to arrive today but there appears to be no tracking info... Newegg says label created but UPS can't track the package :(
 
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Mine was supposed to arrive today but there appears to be no tracking info... Newegg says label created but UPS can't track the package :(
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Its probably a UPS issue tbh. They are always super flaky with their tracking info. I bet you by Monday they will update the tracking info to inform you that it will be delivered by Tuesday :laugh:
If you don't hear anything by Monday I'd probably contact Newegg CS to see if they provide you with updated tracking information, don't do anything drastic without talking to the seller first - that's how undesirable outcomes occur
 
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Its probably a UPS issue tbh. They are always super flaky with their tracking info. I bet you by Monday they will update the tracking info to inform you that it will be delivered by Tuesday :laugh:
If you don't hear anything by Monday I'd probably contact Newegg CS to see if they provide you with updated tracking information, don't do anything drastic without talking to the seller first - that's how undesirable outcomes occur
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NewEgg changed the status to Carrier Delay. So they know something is up with the carrier.
 
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