Decrease your GPU temps with 10 C - is cheap and easy to do

[rusty caterpillar]

Hello,

Hope the video and this post will help you guys decreasing temps on your GPU. Effort is minimal. In my case went 10 C lower just with a use of a 92mm fan.

I suggest the best fan for this application to be a 92 mm fan, as my test shows is better than the 120 mm fan , haven't tried and 80 mm yet.

My setup is 7600 Ryzen, GPU 1080 Ti EVGA, Lian Li OD 11 Dynamic XL.

If you have questions pls let me know.

Is the second test I've done on this particular mod, present driver 555.85 the earlier test was on 536 driver and on that was 8-9 C lower.

In the description of the video I posted results of a test in BF V with RPM reduced on GPU fans and back case exhaust fan for who is interested.

Fans used on my GPU are NF-B9 -redux x3 + 1 NF-A9 PWM

Thanks

 

[Ruru]

Interesting. I could try would this help also with my watercooled 3080. Or with my aircooled 6700 XT.

 

[kismaxe]

thanks brother!

 

[#22]

Everybody should start with going well cooled GPU model instead of trying to save damn 10% with going bottom of the barrel. Everything all right out of the box or few years with loud garbage and worrying about temperatures. Going shitty GPU model i totally basic pc building mistake like e.g. buying PSU nobody reviewed. Guys doing so and defending it with "you can do uv and set fan curve" are even worse, because some suggest with them.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

Interesting. I could try would this help also with my watercooled 3080. Or with my aircooled 6700 XT.

3080 have higher TDP maybe you'll get a even better decrease than on my 1080 Ti with only 290W TDP.

 

[Ruru]

3080 have higher TDP maybe you'll get a even better decrease than on my 1080 Ti with only 290W TDP.

Yup, ~350W power draw in load isn't rare with this card. I'll try with 3DMark Steel Nomad before and after a fan and report later.

edit: My card is watercooler though so the fan would suck just some air from the backplate so I'm not waiting for any miracles..

 

[rusty caterpillar]

Everybody should start with going well cooled GPU model instead of trying to save damn 10% with going bottom of the barrel. Everything all right out of the box or few years with loud garbage and worrying about temperatures. Going shitty GPU model i totally basic pc building mistake like e.g. buying PSU nobody reviewed. Guys doing so and defending it with "you can do uv and set fan curve" are even worse, because some suggest with them.

Define well cooled! -
1. Most of the manufacturers equip the GPUs with 10mm thickness fans, on a deshrouded card you can easy use the standard 25mm thickness - already an advantage- more air pushed and lower noise.
2. Manufacturers paint the back plates and pipes, rads- even on the expensive cards. Only Kingpin and few went for bare Copper which should be the norm.
3. Manufacturers NiZn plate the cold plates which very bad thermal conductor alloy. I had many bare Copper rads or I fixed PC and laptops with bare copper or Aluminum cold plates and rad- never seen corrosion or oxidation. Plating them with NiZn alloy is just an excuse, even the plating is very thin, does count.
4. Lack of Lead in soldering result in small fissure in PCB circuits- even GPU does not die immediately, because of the fissure some electronic parts will overheat over normal just because are dependent of the fissure tracing or partially interrupted circuit.
Lead is not toxic for the use unless that soldering material goes over 380 C giving up lead fumes, is toxic only when recycled if is not done properly.
To overcome the loss of elasticity in soldering without lead you need to add enough silver and that is expensive. As result more electronics will do reach the landfills faster.

Is it really eco the lack of lead in soldering?

We can do something about pointy 1 but the other 3 - very little or nothing

 

[Ruru]

Good points above. But are backplates painted, I thought they're anodized?

Also agree that ROHS solder is a death sentence for electronics when compared to traditional leaded solder.

 

[#22]

Define well cooled! -
1. Most of the manufacturers equip the GPUs with 10mm thickness fans, on a deshrouded card you can easy use the standard 25mm thickness - already an advantage- more air pushed and lower noise.
2. Manufacturers paint the back plates and pipes, rads- even on the expensive cards. Only Kingpin and few went for bare Copper which should be the norm.
3. Manufacturers NiZn plate the cold plates which very bad thermal conductor alloy. I had many bare Copper rads or I fixed PC and laptops with bare copper or Aluminum cold plates and rad- never seen corrosion or oxidation. Plating them with NiZn alloy is just an excuse, even the plating is very thin, does count.
4. Lack of Lead in soldering result in small fissure in PCB circuits- even GPU does not die immediately, because of the fissure some electronic parts will overheat over normal just because are dependent of the fissure tracing or partially interrupted circuit.
Lead is not toxic for the use unless that soldering material goes over 380 C giving up lead fumes, is toxic only when recycled if is not done properly.
To overcome the loss of elasticity in soldering without lead you need to add enough silver and that is expensive. As result more electronics will do reach the landfills faster.

Is it really eco the lack of lead in soldering?

We can do something about pointy 1 but the other 3 - very little or nothing

You really have problem guessing what does "well cooled model" mean?

You just wrote stuff to brag that you know things or two, but you started with asking stupid question

Don't treat what I said in previous post as some counter to your orignal idea - it was thing to do to avoid needing going ideas like yours. For me obvious, but not for everybody who may happen to read it.

 

[rusty caterpillar]

You really have problem guessing what does "well cooled model" mean?

You just wrote stuff to brag that you know things or two, but you started with asking stupid question

Don't treat what I said in previous post as some counter to your orignal idea - it was thing to do to avoid needing going ideas like yours. For me obvious, but not for everybody who may happen to read it.

Not guessing anything - Are very, very few GPU which are well air cooled from the start because of the points I mention above and some more points I will mention bellow - all have an ill effect on how well a GPU is cooled but, those factors can be avoided only if manufacturers change their ways.
Are many other factors - too small radiators or just not enough fins
-bad design PCs
- not enough textolite in the PCB or not at all
- cheap PCB even on expensive cards like 4090, easy to twist or bend again because lack of textolite a very thin layers.
Try to brake a PCB with enough textolite in it with your bare hands
- Factory OC cards which doesn't have proper rad or fans not even for standard frequencies
-lack of thermal pads between back plate and GPU PCB
- radiator plate covering only half of the memory chips - see Asus
- Quality checks non-existent
My question is not stupid and wasn't addressed to you. That's the reason they pulled out lead out of the soldering - lead is not eco. Well, more electronics will brake faster without lead elasticity in the soldering- therefore is not eco, not even remotely. Is just plain stupid and counterproductive.

 

[#22]

Not guessing anything - Are very, very few GPU which are well air cooled from the start because of the points I mention above and some more points I will mention bellow - all have an ill effect on how well a GPU is cooled but, those factors can be avoided only if manufacturers change their ways.
Are many other factors - too small radiators or just not enough fins
-bad design PCs
- not enough textolite in the PCB or not at all
- cheap PCB even on expensive cards like 4090, easy to twist or bend
- Factory OC cards which doesn't have proper rad or fans not even for standard frequencies
-lack of thermal pads between back plate and GPU PCB
- radiator plate covering only half of the memory chips - see Asus
- Quality checks non-existent
My question is not stupid and wasn't addressed to you. That's the reason they pulled out lead out of the soldering - lead is not eco. Well, more electronics will brake faster without lead elasticity in the soldering- therefore is not eco, not even remotely. Is just plain stupid and counterproductive.

Maybe we understood each other wrong - by your question I meant asking me to define well cooled card. You make things complicated when models of the same GPU simply differ with cooling solutions - temperatures components get and noise fans make then. Simple as that and no point talking about what you say - going into details of how it happens or what is the cause.

 

[eidairaman1]

Interesting. I could try would this help also with my watercooled 3080. Or with my aircooled 6700 XT.

Zalman used to make a dual heatsink heatpipe unit for GPUs which sandwiched the gpu, and used a small fan,

Everybody should start with going well cooled GPU model instead of trying to save damn 10% with going bottom of the barrel. Everything all right out of the box or few years with loud garbage and worrying about temperatures. Going shitty GPU model i totally basic pc building mistake like e.g. buying PSU nobody reviewed. Guys doing so and defending it with "you can do uv and set fan curve" are even worse, because some suggest with them.

Everyone comes from different walks of life, some don't deserve the funds they have, some do, or may not have the same knowledge we do. For this op it helped him and others have done it for years on end.

A Sapphire Nitro Costs considerably more than the same Blower fan AsRock Card would...

 

[rusty caterpillar]

Maybe we understood each other wrong - by your question I meant asking me to define well cooled card. You make things complicated when models of the same GPU simply differ with cooling solutions - temperatures components get and noise fans make then. Simple as that and no point talking about what you say - going into details of how it happens or what is the cause.

Maybe, I'm trying to say in a complicated way (but that is just me), that doesn't matter how much you pay for a card today, even if is an expensive one, they will still cut corners or add unnecessary materials which will obstruct or diminish the cooling. Those unnecessary materials will add to the cost and consume more resources in order to be applied to that particular design. So basically now days a well cooled card might be just a far fetched concept or a lottery( ...oh they just left the plastic film on the thermal pads)

 

[Ruru]

Zalman used to make a dual heatsink heatpipe unit for GPUs which sandwiched the gpu, and used a small fan,

This?

Me and many of my friends used the VF700 series' coolers on our cards in the mid-2000s

 

[Noname1234]

This?

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Me and many of my friends used the VF700 series' coolers on our cards in the mid-2000s

I have that cooler on my Radeon 9800 card

 

[ARF]

Hello,

Hope the video and this post will help you guys decreasing temps on your GPU. Effort is minimal. In my case went 10 C lower just with a use of a 92mm fan.

I suggest the best fan for this application to be a 92 mm fan, as my test shows is better than the 120 mm fan , haven't tried and 80 mm yet.

My setup is 7600 Ryzen, GPU 1080 Ti EVGA, Lian Li OD 11 Dynamic XL.

If you have questions pls let me know.

Is the second test I've done on this particular mod, present driver 555.85 the earlier test was on 536 driver and on that was 8-9 C lower.

In the description of the video I posted results of a test in BF V with RPM reduced on GPU fans and back case exhaust fan for who is interested.

Fans used on my GPU are NF-B9 -redux x3 + 1 NF-A9 PWM

Thanks

Apply for a job at Sapphire, XFX or MSI.
Ask them why they keep sabotaging the coolers on the graphics cards, and why they don't use similar approaches to fix the high GPU temperatures...

 

[eidairaman1]

This?

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Me and many of my friends used the VF700 series' coolers on our cards in the mid-2000s

There was another by them in black color like it too but yeah, thats it.

I had an Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer Rev 3 for my ATi Radeon All In Wonder 9700 Pro

 

[Launcestonian]

Sometimes just repasting the GPU TIM & replacing the thermal pads can do a lot for cooling efficiency. I have an old R9 Nano I want to try this on, not that this card drinks heaps of power but after 9 yrs think its time to look at these areas as the card still works in my old AM3+ system.

 

[LabRat 891]

Reminds me...

Put some oldskool aftermarket coolers on a couple GF6800s recently. Reused the stock cooler as a backplate with thermal padding.
Coolest running aircooled 6800s, ever. (Not literally, but even on an old low power card, backside cooling helps a ton.)

 

[jarablue]

Anyone going to do this? I don't care much about temps as I do noise. I'd rather not have the fan noise of a 92mm fan inside my system. My video card stays cool right now as it is.

Anyone going to try this?

 

[freeagent]

I used to do something similar back in the day..

 

[eidairaman1]

Anyone going to do this? I don't care much about temps as I do noise. I'd rather not have the fan noise of a 92mm fan inside my system. My video card stays cool right now as it is.

Anyone going to try this?

Well you could always do this (pick and choose your battles)

Delta 92mm High Performance Dual Fan GFB0912EHG | 12V, 2.10Amps

https://www.delta-fan.com/Download/Spec/GFB0912ES-E.pdf

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Delta Server Fan Test TFC1212DE

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I used to do something similar back in the day..

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Antec had a fan where you could mount and position it anywhere in the case

 

[freeagent]

Well you could always do this (pick and choose your battles)

Delta 92mm High Performance Dual Fan GFB0912EHG | 12V, 2.10Amps

https://www.delta-fan.com/Download/Spec/GFB0912ES-E.pdf

youtube.com

Delta Server Fan Test TFC1212DE

youtube.com

Antec had a fan where you could mount and position it anywhere in the case

I was too cheap for that stuff back then, cut into my booze and smoke fund, bikes too

I still have all of those fans, they move way more than any of these consumer fans that I have, but you hear it

 

[eidairaman1]

I was too cheap for that stuff back then, cut into my booze and smoke fund, bikes too

I still have all of those fans, they move way more than any of these consumer fans that I have, but you hear it

I had 1 on a Thermaltake Volcano 12 Athlon XP heatsink, it made sleeping difficult, I put the original Volcano 12 fan back on. I love rheostats, potentiometers, varistors for fan controls.

 

[R-T-B]

Apply for a job at Sapphire, XFX or MSI.
Ask them why they keep sabotaging the coolers on the graphics cards, and why they don't use similar approaches to fix the high GPU temperatures...

Is this like a "how to get fired" recipe?