How would this compare to my 12700k?

[FoulOnWhite]

I have a opportunity to get this. I already have the rig in my PC, so could use the best of both and make a new rig with the 7800X3D. Would it be a good "upgrade" from my 12700k? I have been after switching to AM5 and DDR5 for a while, so this is a good chance to do it. I can make one "best" rig with the parts from both and sell the rest as a intel rig i guess. I know the 7800X3D is better than my 12700k for gaming.
Thanks
https://www.gumtree.com/p/desktop-w...3070-ti-32gb-6000mhz-ddr5-2tb-nvme/1484673676
This AMD roig has the following specs.
Case - Corsair 5000D Airflow
CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8 Core 16 Threads Base 4.2GHz Boost 5GHz
Motherboard - ASUS Rog Strix B650E-F Wifi/Bluetooth AM5
Ram - G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32GB 6000MHz CL30 DDR5
Graphics Card - ASUS TUF NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti V2 OC 8GB GDDR6X
CPU Cooler - Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix 360mm AIO Liquid Cooling
Boot Storage - WD Black SN850X 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe 7300MB/s 6300MB/s
Games Storage - WD Black SN850 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe 7000MB/s 5300MB/s
Power Supply - Corsair RM850 850W 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular With Black Extension Cables
Fans - 6x Corsair iCUE ML120 RGB Elite 4x Corsair iCUE SP120 RGB Elite
Fan/RGB Hubs - 1x Corsair Commander Core XT 1x Corsair Commander Core

 

[Zazigalka]

what framerate is 12700k delivering in the games you play ?

 

[Devon68]

Those are identical to the components I wanted except I downgraded the cpu and upgraded the gpu. Oh I wanted the Corsair Rm850 shift psu

 

[FoulOnWhite]

what framerate is 12700k delivering in the games you play ?

It's pretty good i guess, but the 7800X3D is far above it in TPU tests at just about every resolution.

 

[P4-630]

Wait for Arrow Lake.

 

[SL2]

It's pretty good i guess, but the 7800X3D is far above it in TPU tests at just about every resolution.

It is, but remember that the 4090 is 88 % faster in 4k than a 3080, and 51 % faster in 2560x1440, so don't expect big differences like the ones you've seen in CPU reviews.

 

[Zazigalka]

With a 3070ti I don't think you'll get more than a few percent improvement. Not saying you shouldn't if you want, but the difference won't be half as big as tested with 4090, if there even will be any.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

With a 3070ti I don't think you'll get more than a few percent improvement. Not saying you shouldn't if you want, but the difference won't be half as big as tested with 4090, if there even will be any.

I will have my pc, and the AMD one, to frankenRIG a PC out of them both.

 

[Lost_Troll]

I will have my pc, and the AMD one, to frankenRIG a PC out of them both.

If you do get it, I would pull the 3080 from your intel system and put it in the AMD system, and then sell the 3070 and save up for a 4070 Ti Supper.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

If you do get it, I would pull the 3080 from your intel system and put it in the AMD system, and then sell the 3070 and save up for a 4070 Ti Supper.

Well the idea is to get the AMD rig, put the 3070ti in the intel, sell that and get a GPU upgrade to go in the AMD rig, then i would still have the 3080 to sell.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Well the idea is to get the AMD rig, put the 3070ti in the intel, sell that and get a GPU upgrade to go in the AMD rig, then i would still have the 3080 to sell.

For me, it would be worth doing this only if you have a GPU upgrade planned. The 12700k is still pretty strong @ UW 1440p. If you're looking at a 4070Ti Super or above, I'd say go for it.

Or if you really just want to get on a newer platform, I'd say go for it anyway.

 

[ir_cow]

Can't see you getting any more FPS with a 3070 Ti. It's a 9% gain to a 78003XD with a RTX 4090 in Wiz performance charts.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The biggest benefit would be being able to mess around with both.

I'm sure there are scenarios where the X3D cpu will feel smoother but not to a level that makes the upgrade worthwhile. Still hardware is fun to mess around with so it's hard to put a value on that.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Can't see you getting any more FPS with a 3070 Ti. It's a 9% gain to a 78003XD with a RTX 4090 in Wiz performance charts.

The 3080 will be going in the AMD rig, till i sell the intel one for a probable 4070ti to go in the AMD rig.

 

[ir_cow]

I just don't see it being worth $500+ to switch to AMD for a potential *14% gain in 1080 gaming and 3% in 1440p.

This is "best" possible outcome. It only goes down with a less GPU and higher resolution .

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I just don't see it being worth $500+ to switch to AMD for a potential 9% gain in 1080 gaming and 3% in 1440p.

This is "best" possible outcome. It only goes down with a less GPU and higher resolution .
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They are 22% apart in W1z testing when it comes to min fps at 1080p a number I value more than averages, still I agree you'd have to really want to switch and want to play around with an X3D part for it to be worth it.

 

[ir_cow]

They are 22% apart in W1z testing when it comes to min fps at 1080p a number I value more than averages, still I agree you'd have to really want to switch and want to play around with an X3D part for it to be worth it.

The average chart is 16%. I didn't see the 1% chart. Glad you pointed that out too.

Still ya even with a 4090 that is a lot of money to spend. Unless you are planning for a 5090 and play at 1080, it hard to justify $500+ to switch.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

So with a 4070ti in both, how far above the 12700k would the 7800X3D be?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

So with a 4070ti in both, how far above the 12700k would the 7800X3D be?

Depends heavily on how you want to game if you want to maintain 144+ fps and will lower settings to do that it could be worth it but if 120fps is fine you're golden with the 12700k.

That's just a ballpark example and will really come down to the games you play and how you play them. I would suspect if you max out settings almost zero different except in some outliers that favor the 3d cache.

13700k vs a 7800X3D/7950X3D I couldn't blindly tell apart with a 4090 honestly even though the X3D were ahead if Rivatuner is your jam.

Shame intels having issues with 13/14th generation they'd probably make more sense otherwise.

 

[ir_cow]

So with a 4070ti in both, how far above the 12700k would the 7800X3D be?

Best I could find is this last review.

XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Magnetic Air Review

The XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX Magnetic Air comes with user-replaceable fans that pop out without any tools. It's a fantastic solution to clean your card and to simplify RMAs. The card achieved excellent performance results in our review, and the overclocking potential is highly impressive.

www.techpowerup.com

32% difference from 4070 Ti to 4090. How that translates to the CPU side, probably means zero increase to your current FPS.