AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D Launched in the US as a MicroCenter-exclusive for $300, Part of a Bundle

[Legacy-ZA]

It's funny how everything is always discounted, on special, and yet, they all still rake in billions. What is paying for all that research and development?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I was just on Microcenter's site the other day, and if my memory's accurate, the 7800x3d was $360 then. I could swear the price was even lower a few weeks ago. Now it's $380, lol. I don't know whether the 7800x3d's wandering price tag is designed to make the 6-core variant more attractive, or whether it's part of a more general response to Zen 5's poor sales' figures, but either way it's disappointing.

Prices starting to trend upwards is common this time of year in the run up to the holidays. That way when it's the same deal on Black Friday, that you could have gotten 6-9 months ago, it looks like a deal.

 

[Vario]

So is this just a 5600X3D with DDR5 supported? whats the point? Ram doesn't matter much for X3D line.

 

[BatRastard]

Looks like AMD shit the bed - there's isn't a BIOS available that supports this thing!

MSI released AGESA Pi 1.2.0.1 Beta and Gigabyte dropped an AGESA 1.2.0.1a Beta ...

7600X3D Support is persona non grata ...

 

[tussinman]

Looks like AMD shit the bed - there's isn't a BIOS available that supports this thing!

MSI released AGESA Pi 1.2.0.1 Beta and Gigabyte dropped an AGESA 1.2.0.1a Beta ...

7600X3D Support is persona non grata ...

It's a low binned 7800x3d chip with 2 cores disabled so it shouldn't need any special update or coding. Same thing with the 5600x3d

 

[RaceT3ch]

To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.
For hecks sake AMD, I understand if the 5600X3D was Microcenter only because it was an old CPU, and redeemed by the fact the 5700X3D exists.
But for crying out loud, the 7900X3D is global, and it contains the same 6 core X3D chip as the 7600X3D, why couldn't you sell it globally?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

But for crying out loud, the 7900X3D is global, and it contains the same 6 core X3D chip as the 7600X3D, why couldn't you sell it globally?

100% This. The 7900X3D is not a good seller, at all. It has cost almost the same on sale as the 7800X3D recently, here in the states and it still sits on shelves. Disable the other CCD and sell it as a 7600X3D for less money globally to get more users on AM5 with a desirable gaming CPU at a good price ($250 is that price)

 

[InVasMani]

100% This. The 7900X3D is not a good seller, at all. It has cost almost the same on sale as the 7800X3D recently, here in the states and it still sits on shelves. Disable the other CCD and sell it as a 7600X3D for less money globally to get more users on AM5 with a desirable gaming CPU at a good price ($250 is that price)

It just doesn't differentiate itself well enough. Too few additional cores and the CCX latency matter is a contentious subject to a lot of people. I think it gets a worse reputation than it likely deserves or would if pricing on 7900X3D had been better from the start. The 7600X3D at the right price point could certainly be a popular cheap alternative to a 7800X3d. I really think even a 4C 7400X3D could probably suffice. I'd say at the same time we're moving into a era where games can tap into all these additional cores more and more especially dependent upon the type of game.

In the case of like sequencer music driven sort of open world game meets DAW experiences they could readily tap into cores for soft synths and effects. I've seen some interesting creative music stuff on steam in recent years and I think we'll only see more and more of that kind of software. There is defiantly a market for people that enjoy music and gaming and some converging idea's between the two and multi-threading can be leveraged a lot in that kind of scenario is my feelings on the matter. I don't see 8c/16t standing still indefinitely in terms of CPU performance being leveraged.

 

[Solaris17]

What is it with AMD and these Micro Center "exclusives"? They pulled the same crap with the 5600X3D. Someone should tell the people at AMD that not everyone lives in the US.

Funfact, Microcenters arent even super prominent IN the US. The closest MC to me is 3 hours. Before I moved? There wasnt one within a days drive.

 

[RaceT3ch]

100% This. The 7900X3D is not a good seller, at all. It has cost almost the same on sale as the 7800X3D recently, here in the states and it still sits on shelves. Disable the other CCD and sell it as a 7600X3D for less money globally to get more users on AM5 with a desirable gaming CPU at a good price ($250 is that price)

Imagine a 7600X3D and 7900GRE setup, crazy performance for its price.
But AMD decided no, only people in the USA who have access to Microcenter can have our 7600X3D. It sounds like favouritism at this point.

 

[Minus Infinity]

It's right there in the name: "American" Micro Devices

The rest of the world can get stuffed.

 

[tussinman]

But AMD decided no, only people in the USA who have access to Microcenter can have our 7600X3D. It sounds like favouritism at this point.

It's not favoritism it's just such a low volume product that it's convenient to just have a single chain of stores take care of it.

My local microcenter had less than 50 5600x3ds for individual retail sale during its entire run, literally no point in adding extra hurdles with volume that low.

 

[QyInvoLing]

So the 7600x3d is only available in US, and the only way of US residents buying it is to reach an store located physically somewhere in the community? Wow, it's weird

 

[neatfeatguy]

Priced a bit lower than the 7800X3D and only available at Micro Center locations.

That leaves folks not near one of the stores 2 options:

1. ask if someone near a Micro Center can get one for them
2. just wait for them to hit ebay or the amazon market place and be priced up an extra $50-100 and by this time it would be pointless because you're paying just as much (or more) than the 7800X3D.

The full price before bundling is: $629.97
The MB is normally priced at $219.99
The RAM is normally priced at (normally the AMD bundles come with G. Skill RAM) $109.99
Leaving the CPU to be priced normally at $299.99

The 7800X3D is normally $379.99.
Looks like the 7600X3D will be $80 cheaper.

Does saving $80 (just on the CPU) do enough for you to be 2 cores less than the 7800X3D with a .1MHz lower base clock and a .3MHz max boost clock?

My guess is the performance difference will be something similar to the 5600X3D vs 5800X3D - you can check out the comparison at Techspot.

A niche product line with a limited release that will most likely perform 5-10% on average behind the 7800X3D. Honestly, I don't think people really need to be too worked up over this.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Based on the pricing from the OP I don't understand the bickering on this CPU not being available when the 14600k is a thing for about the same price ($288 special just now on amazon) and that is available everywhere.

 

[kapone32]

Based on the pricing from the OP I don't understand the bickering on this CPU not being available when the 14600k is a thing for about the same price ($288 special just now on amazon) and that is available everywhere.

Well it could the result of all the News about Intel this period.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Well it could the result of all the News about Intel this period.

Ah ( ) I forgot about that.

 

[InVasMani]

So the 7600x3d is only available in US, and the only way of US residents buying it is to reach an store located physically somewhere in the community? Wow, it's weird

Yeah pretty much there are handful of Micro Center locations in large cities and that's about it. Realistically very few people outside maybe a 50 mile radius are going to visit one. To me it indicates these are low quantity manufactured parts. It isn't to say AMD could manufacturer more of them at higher quantity, but it's probably a lot of reject parts turned into a 6C X3D part and they have a handful or so they can sell exclusively presumably.

 

[Wasteland]

I'm torn on that aspect of the debate. Yes, it's a shame that the 7600x3d is only available at a particular retailer that only has a few locations. It's also a shame that the 7600x3d is bundle-only. But Microcenter is a relatively small player, and I'm glad it still exists. What are our alternatives, these days? Amazon, Newegg, and Best Buy? It looks like MC has managed to survive by offering in-store-exclusive deals to draw in foot traffic. If that's what it takes, then God speed.

If AMD had enough supply for a global release, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

[RaceT3ch]

It's not favoritism it's just such a low volume product that it's convenient to just have a single chain of stores take care of it.

My local microcenter had less than 50 5600x3ds for individual retail sale during its entire run, literally no point in adding extra hurdles with volume that low.

The 7900X3D has the same 6 core dies, and yet that thing is sold globally. (whether if anyone actually buys it)
So it's definitely not low volume if they released the same thing with an extra CCD a while ago.

 

[Minus Infinity]

The 7900X3D has the same 6 core dies, and yet that thing is sold globally. (whether if anyone actually buys it)
So it's definitely not low volume if they released the same thing with an extra CCD a while ago.

Low volume of defective 7900X3D that can only be sold as 7600X3D. It's taken this long to get a decent enough stockpile and they still probably only have a few thousand. This is exaxct same scenario as for the very limited run of 5600X3Ds.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Low volume of defective 7900X3D that can only be sold as 7600X3D. It's taken this long to get a decent enough stockpile and they still probably only have a few thousand. This is exaxct same scenario as for the very limited run of 5600X3Ds.

Shame AMD is greedy tbh...
They can't be making much off the 7900X3D. Making it into a 7600X3D seems more profitable NGL

 

[InVasMani]

Depends a lot on margins and yields.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Depends a lot on margins and yields.

Certainly enough 6 core X3D yields if there's a 7900X3D

 

[tussinman]

So it's definitely not low volume if they released the same thing with an extra CCD a while ago.

No it is low volume, it's rejected/low binned dies. Zen 4 which had higher number of chips produced and worst production yields compared to Zen 5 still only sold minimal 5600X3ds

Low volume of defective 7900X3D that can only be sold as 7600X3D. It's taken this long to get a decent enough stockpile and they still probably only have a few thousand. This is exaxct same scenario as for the very limited run of 5600X3Ds.

Exactly. Especially since the word is Zen 5 has lower yields of defective chips than Zen 4 so that makes stockpiling significant amounts of reject stock more challenging.