AMD to Extend Warranty Coverage to Ryzen 9600X and 9700X with 105W BIOS Mods

[Dr. Dro]

BIOS mods aren't enough. It should be software easy on-the-fly single click solution. Or attached to power profiles.

It's hardly a BIOS "mod"... it's more like "105W spec mode" toggle. Thing is completely useless anyway. Anyone thinking juicing these chips are gonna make them what they failed to become is delulu

Given the poor MB updates too, I'm thinking trying Arrow Lake 265KF to update my old 3700X rig.

I'll prob be waiting for Panther Lake at a minimum at this point :/

 

[Minus Infinity]

I highly suspect that zen 5 will make a much bigger splash in the mobile market, where the power draw improvements should be more evident.

Indeed this gen was about mobile and server. Strix looks nice, but I'm also keen to see how Lunar Lake goes. Leaks show good performance at 17W.

It's hardly a BIOS "mod"... it's more like "105W spec mode" toggle. Thing is completely useless anyway. Anyone thinking juicing these chips are gonna make them what they failed to become is delulu



I'll prob be waiting for Panther Lake at a minimum at this point :/

Panther is mobile only, so it's Arrow Lake or its refresh or wait 2 years+ for Nova Lake.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Indeed this gen was about mobile and server. Strix looks nice, but I'm also keen to see how Lunar Lake goes. Leaks show good performance at 17W.

Strix halo is what I'm looking forward to. 40 CUs and a 256 bit bus. Mmmmmmm.....busss.

The issue with lunar lake is intel themselves. Meteor lake's limited testing shows severe compatibility regression in some games that were fixed on alchemist. Frankly I have no trust that intel is gonna get their GPU driver fully stable, especially for older games. That's a dealbreaker for me.

I'll prob be waiting for Panther Lake at a minimum at this point :/

I'm good for a long while. I'm going all the way to 2032 with this rig. We'll see what the market looks like by then. Maybe we'll have 200CU strix halo V6.9 CPUs with RTX 5090 performance by then.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Indeed this gen was about mobile and server. Strix looks nice, but I'm also keen to see how Lunar Lake goes. Leaks show good performance at 17W.

Panther is mobile only, so it's Arrow Lake or its refresh or wait 2 years+ for Nova Lake.

Damn. Nova, then. It's about 2 years from now indeed. Having to replace my motherboard sucked big time...

 

[Minus Infinity]

Damn. Nova, then. It's about 2 years from now indeed. Having to replace my motherboard sucked big time...

Well there is also Zen 6 in 18 months or so. Should finally fix the issues with ccd's. Maybe Zen 5 v-cache models will overcome the low clocks and poor productivity performance. I'd consider a 9900X3D if they fix the problems with 7900X3D.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Well there is also Zen 6 in 18 months or so. Should finally fix the issues with ccd's. Maybe Zen 5 v-cache models will overcome the low clocks and poor productivity performance. I'd consider a 9900X3D if they fix the problems with 7900X3D.

I'm open to the idea, provided that it significantly outperforms or is significantly cheaper than Nova. That time frame (~2026) should also be around the time we'll see the first openSIL platforms, so future looks good

 

[Minus Infinity]

I'm open to the idea, provided that it significantly outperforms or is significantly cheaper than Nova. That time frame (~2026) should also be around the time we'll see the first openSIL platforms, so future looks good

I'd forgotten about openSIL, yes can't come soon enough.

Still for now I'd rather not deal with core-parking BS, so I'd be still more inclined to go Arrow Lake than dual ccd AMD model. With E-cores getting massive boost in performance, for me 20 core 265 will benefit me more than 12 cores for productivity and will still be great for gaming.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

I'd forgotten about openSIL, yes can't come soon enough.

Still for now I'd rather not deal with core-parking BS, so I'd be still more inclined to go Arrow Lake than dual ccd AMD model. With E-cores getting massive boost in performance, for me 20 core 265 will benefit me more than 12 cores for productivity and will still be great for gaming.

Isn't threads more important than cores for productivity nowadays? Even outside of performance per thread ...

 

[Minus Infinity]

Isn't threads more important than cores for productivity nowadays? Even outside of performance per thread ...

2 real cores will always be better than 1 core with HT. I'd bet 20 real cores will generally beat 12 real cores with HT in most cases. AMD will surely win some benchmarks, but from what I've seen for Raptor Lake it's mostly for apps I don't care about.

Already 14700K beats 9900X in majority of productivity apps and that's with weak E-cores. Arrow Lake with new E-cores is strong enough to match or beat Raptor Lake in multi-core performance despite lacking HT.

Obviously, I'll wait for real world tests on Arrow lake vs Zen 5 vs Zen 5 X3D before deciding. Also need to see if Intel is delivering on promised massive power reduction for Arrow Lake.

 

[phints]

AMD is making a lot of work for reviewers (more ad revenue hopefully), but can't wait to see the 9700X retested with Win11 24H2 + 105W BIOS.

Still a stopgap though more excited for 9800X3D vs. Arrow Lake.

 

[trsttte]

I'm thinking trying Arrow Lake 265KF to update my old 3700X rig

5800x3d or 5700x3d are still incredible value if you don't want to throw the dice at Intel finally getting all their ducks in a row

 

[Minus Infinity]

5800x3d or 5700x3d are still incredible value if you don't want to throw the dice at Intel finally getting all their ducks in a row

Yeah see I'm not gaming focused. I play games, but even my lowly 5800X does alright for me. I don't play bleeding edge AAA titles so I'm usually sweet with older hardware. I do more photo editing and run sims using Matlab/Comsol etc. I'm still leaving the door open for X3D though, if they can get clocks up and they no longer suck for productivity who knows.

 

[trsttte]

I do more photo editing and run sims using Matlab/Comsol etc.

Than 5950x was never cheaper (it's going for less than 300€). But shinning new stuff is cool too, just spitballing

 

[efikkan]

The bigger question; does this bring more consistent performance?
CPUs with high clock speeds and many cores with low TDP ratings generally suffer in terms of user experience. (The same reason why the non-K SKUs from Intel really suck for doing anything more than very light office work). Consistent performance is actually more important than peak performance, although benchmarks doesn't always reflect this.