Intel Announces New Mobile Lunar Lake Core Ultra 200V Series Processors

[AusWolf]

Lunar Lake is a U class mobile-only apu targeting 17-28W range.
Arrow Lake will confusingly also have U class mobile apu as well as H and HX.
Panther Lake is Lunar Lake's successor and will have a lot more cores and will target U/H/HX segments


Skymont E cores replace Gracemont E and LPE cores. LPE cores return for Panther Lake and will be far more powerful. Skymont E-cores are massively stronger than Gracemont E cores and said to be Raptor cove level of performance. IIRC IPC is 68% higher than Gracemont! This is why Arrow Lake will still be able to get good multithread scores despite lack of HT.

That's way too many Lakes for me to follow. I guess I'd better limit my Intel-related news input to Bartlett Lake from now on. The rest only give me sensory overload.

 

[_roman_]

Those 6x USB 2.0 ports should finally die.
I do expect USB 5gbps 3.x ports or higher only. I do expect USB 4 ports and no thunderbolt ports. Regardless if they are similar.

 

[Minus Infinity]

That's way too many Lakes for me to follow. I guess I'd better limit my Intel-related news input to Bartlett Lake from now on. The rest only give me sensory overload.

I wonder, with all the cost-cutting at Intel if Bartlett Lake will survive?

 

[Hyderz]

I wonder, with all the cost-cutting at Intel if Bartlett Lake will survive?

not only survive, it has to perform really well, if intel is to recover that 30 billion

 

[AusWolf]

I wonder, with all the cost-cutting at Intel if Bartlett Lake will survive?

I don't know, but I hope so. That seems to be the only interesting product in development at Intel in recent years, imo.

 

[lemonadesoda]

Blank piece of silicon? What a wasted opportunity to not add a burned-in marketing logo, if only shown in one photo before heatsink slapped on, or why not a video encode/decode unit? It's what people do... record, edit, play videos not AI.

 

[kondamin]

Blank piece of silicon? What a wasted opportunity to not add a burned-in marketing logo, if only shown in one photo before heatsink slapped on, or why not a video encode/decode unit? It's what people do... record, edit, play videos not AI.

those are on chip already

 

[LittleBro]

What happenned to claims about Lunar Lake having at least +50% iGPU performance improvement over Meteor Lake (Intel Core Ultra 100 Series)?
Back then, they even made a statement about reaching +50% perf. at gaming. Now there is +31% in gaming over previous generation.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-lunar-lake-technical-deep-dive/5.html

Maybe they finally reasoned with themselves and managed to lower TDP while achieving those +31% on average.
That's still a huge generational improvement, though.

 

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[Broken Processor]

Does anyone ever believe the marketing BS in these press releases?

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

They moved the memory onto the cpu package.

I am glad that intel did it first, because if it was AMD, I can guarantee that they would be accused and trashed by everyone in here due to not being able to upgrade or something similar.

This is a lot of text with little to no info. Can we just keep to the essentials, like desktop/mobile, number of cores, clock speeds, key architectural facts, etc.? (I know it's just stock Intel marketing material, but still...)

Thank you, I felt the same way.

Does anyone ever believe the marketing BS in these press releases?

Personally, I automatically call all intel press releases as BS.

 

[londiste]

So no more E-cores now?
They ditched the P-E-LP to just P-LP ?

No and yes. LP cores are E-cores. But Lunar Lake only has LP E-cores.

 

[bushlin]

Those 6x USB 2.0 ports should finally die.
I do expect USB 5gbps 3.x ports or higher only. I do expect USB 4 ports and no thunderbolt ports. Regardless if they are similar.

If they continue to retain the compatibility advantage for things like USB booting, I'm happy for some USB 2.0 ports to stay although I don't personally require 6 of them.

 

[1d10t]

Dont forget to add this later Intel
- Intel Core Ultra 7 262V 4.9 Max Turbo P-Core 3.7 Max Turbo E-core
- Intel Core Ultra 5 232V 4.6 Max Turbo P-Core 3.5 Max Turbo E-core

 

[AusWolf]

No and yes. LP cores are E-cores. But Lunar Lake only has LP E-cores.

What's an LP core? (I don't have 5 years of free time to read through the marketing BS, sorry)

 

[BArms]

Anyone else tired of the ridiculous number of SKUs intel keeps? What is the point, honestly? Does it help consumers in anyway? How does it help Intel?

 

[pressing on]

Anyone else tired of the ridiculous number of SKUs intel keeps? What is the point, honestly? Does it help consumers in anyway? How does it help Intel?

Two different sizes of on package memory, two different iGPUs. These are all OEM CPUs anyway so some may never be produced.

Doesn't seem to affect buyers - Meteor Lake which has even more SKUs has sales to date of 20 million plus.

 

[Minus Infinity]

What's an LP core? (I don't have 5 years of free time to read through the marketing BS, sorry)

Low Power. They are utterly useless in Mediocre Lake. Only used for background processes whilst the laptop is idle. They will technically be LP in Lunar lake, but they will perform like full phat P cores from last gen. With Panther Lake they get new true LP-E cores that will actually be used for real compute when P cores aren't needed IIRC. But they will have E and LP-E in some configs.

 

[AusWolf]

Low Power. They are utterly useless in Mediocre Lake. Only used for background processes whilst the laptop is idle. They will technically be LP in Lunar lake, but they will perform like full phat P cores from last gen. With Panther Lake they get new true LP-E cores that will actually be used for real compute when P cores aren't needed IIRC. But they will have E and LP-E in some configs.

Ah I see... Wait, what? I'm even more confused now. P-cores can be LP for low power, but sometimes E-cores are LP, but you also have LP-E cores in some configs... Ah, fuck it, I'll just stick with AMD or Bartlett Lake.

 

[londiste]

There are P cores and E cores. Two different architectures.
Low power cores are same E-cores but on some other chiplet, presumably one made with a power-efficient process.
Primary use is laptops at idle, where low power E-cores can have very low power consumption.

Low Power. They are utterly useless in Mediocre Lake. Only used for background processes whilst the laptop is idle. They will technically be LP in Lunar lake, but they will perform like full phat P cores from last gen. With Panther Lake they get new true LP-E cores that will actually be used for real compute when P cores aren't needed IIRC. But they will have E and LP-E in some configs.

This is a very unnecessarily complicated description.

 

[Caring1]

Will the 200V run on a 240V power supply? /s

 

[AusWolf]

Will the 200V run on a 240V power supply? /s

I'm not sure about all the SKUs, but the 236V and 238V might.

 

[Jim Hutchinson]

Cool! but why different cpus with different ram capacity
also by the specs anything above 7 256v seems very little to gain... but benchmarks will uncover..

Cool! but why different cpus with different ram capacity

The RAM is part of the CPU, being mounted on-package now. This means Intel can have different models that have the same CPU performance, but different RAM capacities. Say you have a 256V and a 258V. In theory the only difference is the amount of RAM, and that is indeed the case going by the Intel Ark Comparison page.