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Atiflashing: RX 470 identifies as 570

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Last thread was about me having issues with atiflash when I want using the right version, that's solved now

I purchased a mining 470 8gb to flash back (I don't know the actual model of the card it's just generic I guess?)
I had flashed a good amount of RX 470 8gb vbioses on it and every time got no display from the 1 hdmi port, until I checked the device manager. It believes it's an RX 570 series. It used to think it was an Asus rx 570 series, I used ddu twice and then view all in device manager and uninstalled the GPU drivers, and disabled wifi. Now it says it's an AMD RX 570. I've gone through multiple RX 470 vbioses and each reboot it still says it's a 570 including in gpu-z. So I guess my question is

There's no actual way it's a 570 8gb right?

And how do I stop this from happening? Thanks!
 
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570 are pretty much the same as 470. Maybe you did get a 570? Pictures of the card would help with its identification.
 
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Just use it as a 570 if it works!
 
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Screenshot of GPU-Z, and photos of the RAM chips would be helpful. Also, if you can get it, a picture of the code on the "frame" around the die.
 

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Screenshot of GPU-Z, and photos of the RAM chips would be helpful. Also, if you can get it, a picture of the code on the "frame" around the die.
Oh got it yep, I'm at a movie right now so I'll get it in about 2 hours

Screenshot of GPU-Z, and photos of the RAM chips would be helpful. Also, if you can get it, a picture of the code on the "frame" around the die.
Pic says 470 quad uefi
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Oh got it yep, I'm at a movie right now so I'll get it in about 2 hours


Pic says 470 quad uefi
1000000339.jpg
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thats a GPU z reading with some random bios on it

Oh got it yep, I'm at a movie right now so I'll get it in about 2 hours


Pic says 470 quad uefi
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1000000340.jpg
thats a GPU z reading with some random bios on it
Ram chips and frame writing here now:

Screenshot of GPU-Z, and photos of the RAM chips would be helpful. Also, if you can get it, a picture of the code on the "frame" around the die.
Done now, anything you could make from that?
 

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Look at this thread for help:
 
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Oh got it yep, I'm at a movie right now so I'll get it in about 2 hours


Pic says 470 quad uefiView attachment 362112


View attachment 362114thats a GPU z reading with some random bios on it


Ram chips and frame writing here now:


Done now, anything you could make from that?

Some "RX580 2048SP" bioses which you can try:
 
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If your 470 feels like a 570 you should let it! It is important to let people, animals and things identify as whatever they want, or so I have heard ;) I have a 4070 that identifies itself as a 4090, I have tried to talk to it about inflated self-esteem etc, but it won`t budge ;)
 

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Some "RX580 2048SP" bioses which you can try:
Would those help? I actually kinda don't care what the ca d identifies as anymore I just want to get a bios that will give me display output

Guy in the thread looks like he gave up...
I had the same E353 bios as him and I just sent him a message

Is there any chance of an unverified bios existing that would give me video output with this SSID E353 or no? Should I give up as well and go buy a different mining 470?
Look at this thread for help:
 
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Guy in the thread looks like he gave up...
I had the same E353 bios as him and I just sent him a message

Sorry if im very late for this, but unfortunately it was a hardware related issue.

I mailed Sapphire China and they send me the original vbios for this card.

I will upload it when i got home.


Thanks for the help!
Looks like he didn't give up.
 
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Hi everyone.

As i told u in the pm, you are attacking the wrong problem as i read your post.

You dont get image not because of the vbios, but because these cards have some smd (2.2ohm resistances missing).

Once you solder these you can get image, THEN and only then you can start to mess with the bioses.

If you get clocks, temp measures, voltage regulator readings then you are ready to go, the best way is to test it with another output and use it to render a game or give it some load to see if it crashes.


I do this jumps to get image as i dont have 2.2ohm resistances

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Would those help? I actually kinda don't care what the ca d identifies as anymore I just want to get a bios that will give me display output

Guy in the thread looks like he gave up...
I had the same E353 bios as him and I just sent him a message

Is there any chance of an unverified bios existing that would give me video output with this SSID E353 or no? Should I give up as well and go buy a different mining 470?
Stop buying mining edition cards is what I suggest, go get a Nitro or Pulse
 
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