Next gen performance wishes

[Tomorrow]

Since Q4 2024-Q1 2025 could see new generation GPU releases from all 3 mayor players i thought it would be a good idea to see what people actually want from these.
Select 3 that matter most for you.

 

[igormp]

Most of my GPU uses are related to CUDA, so all I care is cheaper prices (which I doubt will happen), more VRAM, and faster VRAM (which should be a given with GDDR7).

The 4090 did not bring any noticeable benefit over my 3090 since it's the same 24GB at almost the same speed, so no perf uplift for most of what I do. Let's see if the 5090 brings enough benefits to justify its cost.

 

[Ruru]

Cheaper, more efficient and more raster performance. Personally I use only low RT so that's not so important for me.

 

[dgianstefani]

DLAA+RT on max with FPS that doesn't drop below 120 would be nice.

Ports that allow 4K240 with no compression also desirable.

 

[jak_2456]

I think the most recent generation of GPUs has been quite underwhelming. I hope Intel's Battlemage impresses me because I actually have faith that they might release something good. I hope they put as much work into the GPUs as they do with driver updates. Not that I'm interested in a new GPU; my 6700 XT is serving me well.

 

[64K]

I want to see much better performance, prices the same but lower would be great and better RT performance. Most important of all at the very least is no more stupid-pricing like the original $1,200 4080. I would also like to see the entry level and lower midrange gamers better served as far as offerings and pricing before more of them give up and turn to consoles.

 

[jak_2456]

I want to see much better performance, prices the same but lower would be great and better RT performance. Most important of all at the very least is no more stupid-pricing like the original $1,200 4080. I would also like to see the entry level and lower midrange gamers better served as far as offerings and pricing before more of them give up and turn to consoles.

I fully agree, the RX 7600 XT was a complete joke. Nvidia barely cares about the budget offerings either. I hope Intel brings something good to the table for people who want to spend $250-300 US max on their GPU.

 

[wheresmycar]

With multiple selections limited to 3 i guess i'm prioritising what I actually look for when buying a card: Raster, efficiency and no-BS price.

If/when "upscaling" sees significant improvements for 1440p (mitigating blurriness + intelligently replicating native res image quality) i'd get right behind that too... TOP PRIORITY STUFF!

DP 2.1 UHBR20...what are the perks here? Haven't looked into it. I suspect its overkill for a 1440p/165hz/IPS?

 

[Tomorrow]

W1zzard could make a front page poll with similar questions (but much better formatted than mine).
It would get way more votes. The DDR4 or DDR5 question has been up for a while now.

 

[ir_cow]

3 different categories here. AMD and Intel needs to be cheap. NVIDIA needs to double or tipple the RTX rendering and give me DP 2.1.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I am all about performance, give me enough to run 4K 120 on most demanding of games

 

[ajcardiac]

I would consider 12GB VRAM an minimum for entry level and 16GB for mainstream (with an at least half-decent bus width).
I don't care about RT, pure rasterization is what matters to me.
I am willing to pay for more performance, but I dislike stagnation.
I prefer native resolution at 1440p, so upscaling / Frame Generation isn't important to me.

 

[Tomorrow]

DP 2.1 UHBR20...what are the perks here? Haven't looked into it. I suspect its overkill for a 1440p/165hz/IPS?

It's mainly "about time" type of upgrade. Especially considering the low cost of the implementation itself. Obviously not for cheapest ~150 costing monitors where every dollar in the BoM matters, but for 800+ costing monitors it really should be included.

Not so much that it's necessary because the current one is limiting anything (there are compatibility problems DSC and Nvidia's DSR/DLSSDSR). Also some people claim that current DSC has problems with multi-monitor setups and alt+tab delays but i cant verify or confirm that.

In terms of real need for DP 2.1 UHBR20 that would be when we get 1440p 600Hz and 4K 360Hz monitors. They're close. Possibly next year as we currently have 480Hz 1440p and 240Hz 4K.

Refer to this graph from TFT Central: View attachment dsc_bandwidths_2.webp

 

[TumbleGeorge]

What improvements do you want the most from next generation Blackwell, RDNA4 and Battlemage GPU's?

Never mind what we want from this GPU's because its were are in production and is too late for companies to make changes.
Ps. If you really want things that you believe you can charge companies to deliver, you'll need to order them today, for generations that would be ready for market in, say, 2030 at the earliest.

 

[Marcus L]

Since Q4 2024-Q1 2025 could see new generation GPU releases from all 3 mayor players i thought it would be a good idea to see what people actually want from these.
Select 3 that matter most for you.

Performance - Raster
Prices - same or lower
Price/performance - higher

 

[64K]

W1zzard could make a front page poll with similar questions (but much better formatted than mine).
It would get way more votes. The DDR4 or DDR5 question has been up for a while now.

Yeah the front page polls get many thousands of votes. Send him a PM if you want. Can't hurt to ask. He's on vacation right now though so maybe when he gets back.

 

[Tomorrow]

Never mind what we want from this GPU's because its were are in production and is too late for companies to make changes.
Ps. If you really want things that you believe you can charge companies to deliver, you'll need to order them today, for generations that would be ready for market in, say, 2030 at the earliest.

This poll is not for manufacturers and odds are that they would not listen anyway.
This poll is for buyers. I dont think anyone here or elsewhere expects that a simple poll can change priorities of multi-billion dollar companies.
Im simply trying to gauge what people at this moment want more from next gen now that we have (through leaks) most of the specs.

Yeah the front page polls get many thousands of votes. Send him a PM if you want. Can't hurt to ask. He's on vacation right now though so maybe when he gets back.

I'll do just that.

 

[wheresmycar]

In terms of real need for DP 2.1 UHBR20 that would be when we get 1440p 600Hz and 4K 360Hz monitors. They're close. Possibly next year as we currently have 480Hz 1440p and 240Hz 4K.

Blimey those are some pretty intense performance targets - not my cup of tea. I'm gonna be riding 1440p/165 for a few more years for 2.1 to be a concern.

I use both a 1080 TI and RTX 3080 with multi-monitor setups. Haven't experienced any problems. Maybe these reports are linked to multiple higher refresh rate panels whereas i use one and the other 2 are 60hz.

 

[evernessince]

I feel like this is mostly an irrelevant question. At this point it's about what Nvidia wants to give you. You all are just strapped in for the ride at this point.

 

[N/A]

I wish Maxwell 2.0 level of improvement 980 vs 780 Ti. 20% more performance 20% lower cost 20% less power, 33% more Vram.

 

[Tomorrow]

Blimey those are some pretty intense performance targets - not my cup of tea. I'm gonna be riding 1440p/165 for a few more years for 2.1 to be a concern.

I use both a 1080 TI and RTX 3080 with multi-monitor setups. Haven't experienced any problems. Maybe these reports are linked to multiple higher refresh rate panels whereas i use one and the other 2 are 60hz.

I've been using 1440p 165Hz for 8 years now. 2080 Ti here. I wont even consider a new monitor or a GPU that does not have DP 2.1

I feel like this is mostly an irrelevant question. At this point it's about what Nvidia wants to give you. You all are just strapped in for the ride at this point.

Asking what buyers want is never an irrelevant question. Even if it does not directly influence the corporations themselves it's still a useful metric see see what people what. My point is that i have a feeling that most people want performance we already have, but for lower prices. Not higher performance at even higher prices.

It would be nice to have 7900 XTX performance for <500 or 4090 performance for <800. Even if 5090 for example ends up being 50% faster for 1900 or something. That's okay with me if previous top end performance becomes accessible at lower prices.

But that's just my feeling. I need data. If the data shows otherwise i will accept it.

 

[Caring1]

Performance and efficiency are the same thing to me. Unless you think performance is moar powa

 

[Krit]

Last gen launch was simply terrible in terms of mid range and lower end gpu market. In this price range price to performance ratio was strongly degraded.

Worst gpus in my opinion RTX 4060, RTX 4060ti, RTX 4070 (128/192bit leftovers) even RX 7900 XT was overpriced to close to XTX. AMD loses market share but still won't cut the prices.

This time AMD shold be very agresive in mid range and lower end gpu market pricing...... As for nvidia is not worth even mentioning that company if you want a healthy gpu market pricing wise. More you buy from them worse it will be in future it's like enemy No. 1 to good p/p ratio.

 

[agent_x007]

Instead of "better efficiency", which lost all meaning LONG time ago.
I would vote for lower power/lower stock voltage (0.6 - 0.8V @ vGPU), and allowing higher voltages during OC (up to ~0.9V).

 

[tpuuser256]

I would pay 3k for a 5090 that brings new levels of performance and size