Canadian Retailer Lists Intel Core Ultra 200 Series "Arrow Lake-S" Desktop Processors

[btarunr]

Canadian online retailer ShopRBC put up listings of unreleased Intel Core Ultra 200-series "Arrow Lake-S" desktop processors. While the availability listed is zero, you can backorder these chips at the prices listed, so they are shipped when available. The flagship Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (8P+16E) processor is listed at CAD $852 (around USD $628). There is no "KF" variant of this part unlike with past generations of Intel flagship SKUs. The Core Ultra 7 265K (8P+12E) is next up, at CAD $589 (USD $435). Its KF variant, which lacks integrated graphics, is up for CAD $22 less than that (CAD $567 or USD $418).

Intel's middle-of-the-market part for this generation, the Core Ultra 5 245K (6P+8E) is next up, listed at CAD $450, or USD $331. You can back-order its KF variant for CA $23 less, at CA $427 (USD $315). The Core Ultra 200 "Arrow Lake-S" introduces the new Socket LGA1851, and so online retailers around the world should begin putting up compatible motherboards based on the Intel Z890 chipset, which is rumored to be the only chipset option available with these chips until Q1-2025, when Intel fleshes out the series with non-K SKUs and value chipsets such as the B860.



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[sepheronx]

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

 

[dj-electric]

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

Roughly 3 years. Honestly, quite typical considering we knew LGA18XX was coming in the future when LGA1700 itself did.
LGA1200 had nearly half this lifespan, being relevant for just 20 months. LGA1151 also didn't make it to 3 years.

 

[sepheronx]

I'll wait then for budget Chinese random motherboards for this chipset before I purchase I guess.

 

[berjerac]

I call this lazy journalism.
Where are the comparison prices of canadian current gen Intels?

 

[kondamin]

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

If intel isnt in panic mode a new socket per generation is the rule.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

If do switch from my 12700k it will be the 265k for me I reckon.

 

[londiste]

So, basically the same price points as last several generations.

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

November 2021. Intel has been fairly predictable with its platforms - two generations of CPUs, one socket/platform. Sometimes three. With each CPU generation being roughly a year.

 

[Wirko]

I remember LGA1700/1800 being written on some sockets (or at least protective covers) at Alder launch. Did anyone ever decode what the 1800 stood for?

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

LGA1151 also didn't make it to 3 years.

Let's see... It housed Skylake (2015), Kaby Lake (2017), Coffee Lake (2017), Coffee Lake Refresh (2019). All of that was possible on the same exact motherboard (with a huge caveat but still).

However, lifespan isn't relevant. You build your PC for nearly a decade, not a couple months. The only relevant question is will that be any better than Raptor Lake.

 

[dj-electric]

Let's see... It housed Skylake (2015), Kaby Lake (2017), Coffee Lake (2017), Coffee Lake Refresh (2019). All of that was possible on the same exact motherboard (with a huge caveat but still).

There are no caveats. 6-7th gen (Z170/270), 8-9th gen (Z370/390) and 10th and 11th gen (Z490/590, mechanical socket change) had different platforms, coffee-BIOS hack aside.

I don't build my PC for nearly a decade (which I would consider 8-9 years as "nearly"). Many frequent upgraders don't see longevity beyond just 4-5 years of use.

 

[Caring1]

You mean Pre-order, not back order.

 

[persondb]

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

Yeah, though Intel is rumoured to have `bartlett lake` with only P cores to release on it.
Either way, in my personal opinion platform longevity is kinda overrated as most people don`t upgrade CPUs within the same platform.

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Oof, the pricing's pretty rough for a first-of-platform release, especially if you were running D4 boards before. We're probably gonna see the popularity issues AM5 is having all over again, nevermind the voltage saga we just saw at the tail end of yesterseason.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

It will likely be 3-4 years for me on LGA1700, it has been my fave platform upto now, apart from bios updates it has been supremely stable, which is the most important thing imo, fastest is pointless if you are having problems all the time and i have honestly had none with this at all in nearly 3 years.

Hopefully LGA1851 will be more of the same stability with a nice speed boost over my 12700k, which i will be certainly keeping.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It will likely be 3-4 years for me on LGA1700, it has been my fave platform upto now, apart from bios updates it has been supremely stable, which is the most important thing imo, fastest is pointless if you are having problems all the time and i have honestly had none with this at all in nearly 3 years.

Hopefully LGA1851 will be more of the same stability with a nice speed boost over my 12700k, which i will be certainly keeping.

I have a feeling Arrow Lake will run into the same wall that Zen 5 did, that being the very very well rounded high performance 14700K.

I mean, if this GB leak is accurate, Arrow Lake has ~8% single thread advantage but otherwise is the same as the 14700K. That's not a lot of reason to upgrade an entire platform (time and $$) vs just buying the $350 14700K and popping it in to replace my 12700KF.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z890 AERO G vs Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7E25 - Geekbench

 

[FoulOnWhite]

I have a feeling Arrow Lake will run into the same wall that Zen 5 did, that being the very very well rounded high performance 14700K.

I mean, if this GB leak is accurate, Arrow Lake has ~8% single thread advantage but otherwise is the same as the 14700K. That's not a lot of reason to upgrade an entire platform (time and $$) vs just buying the $350 14700K and popping it in to replace my 12700KF.

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Z890 AERO G vs Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7E25 - Geekbench

Would you not be worried about the problems with 14xxx CPU's or is that just the high end ones, else i could just do the same.

 

[Ayhamb99]

Wow, so LGA1700 was very short lived.

I mean technically LGA1700 was better than the previous sockets because we got 3 years/3 generations, but 14th gen was just a refresh so can't really get considered. LGA1200 had 2 gens of support but honestly was relevant only for 10th gen since 11th was trash. LGA1151 had 4 generations but Intel did an Intel there with LGA1151 v2 so techincally only 2 gens per socket.


Hopefully at least they do the same for LGA1851 with 3 generations.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Would you not be worried about the problems with 14xxx CPU's or is that just the high end ones, else i could just do the same.

Recent BIOS patches fixes it for one, and both of us with Z690 will need to patch the BIOS to use 14th gen.

But even without that, no I'm not particularly worried. I know a lot of people with Intel 'gaming' or otherwise high-performance rigs (I'm a developer, so most people I know have a higher end PC) and don't know a single one who had this issue. I suspect one must have to have a high end motherboard/CPU *and* regularly put it under a lot of stress, to see this issue.

That said, I'll probably run the diagnostic on any CPU I buy, just to make sure they're not selling me someone else's return :

Edit: Initial Lunar Lake reviews are out. Pretty wicked, better than the leaks. Here's hoping Arrow Lake is better than the leaks too.

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