AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D To Feature Significant Clock Speed Boost

[Cpt.Jank]

We've known about the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D for a good long while now, and previous leaks and rumors indicated that it would offer a rather significant boost in gaming performance thanks to changes to the 3D V-cache amounts and layouts. Now, a new leak, which purports to show off the official retail packaging for the new CPU, suggests that clock speeds will get a boost over the existing AMD Ryzen 7 78000X3D.

The leak, shared by Moore's Law Is Dead on YouTube, shows off a supposed retail box for the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D that was sent to AMD's partners for marketing, and along with that, he claims to have had access to the entire marketing slide deck, which is where the frequency boost information comes from. According to the leaker, the 9800X3D's marketing material specifically calls out the processor as being "designed for increased frequencies."


It's unclear whether this wording in the marketing refers to faster base or boost clocks, but previous reporting revealed that the Ryzen 7 9800X3D would have more overclocking potential than its predecessors, which were generally locked to their stock clock speeds to protect the more sensitive 3D V-cache stacked on the CPU dies. In all likelihood, this likely references both increased base and boost clocks as well as improved overclocking headroom.

It could also be a similar case to AMD's other 9000 series Ryzen CPUs, which shipped with a 65 W TDP and were later updated to 105 W after it was revealed that the 65 W limit drastically hampered performance improvements compared to the previous generation. AMD even went so far as to say that it would honor warranties for any Zen 5 CPUs that were configured to run at an increased TDP.

In addition to confirming previous rumors about the new X3D CPU being capable of higher clock speeds, MLID also reinforced other rumors that the 9800X3D will be launching as soon as October 2024.

[Editor's note: Our in-depth review of the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is live]

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[Daven]

Moar gaming power!!!

 

[wolf]

The leak, shared by Moore's Law Is Dead

That useless nails-on-a-chalkboard-voiced turdburger not withstanding.....

The rumored frequency boost makes sense at face value, it'll need it to try and separate itself from the 7800X3D to a higher degree than the rest of Ryzen 9000 vs 7000.

 

[natr0n]

CPU are so good now everything seems kinda irreverent at this point.

For some nothing is ever good enough

 

[Sarajiel]

The rumored frequency boost makes sense at face value, it'll need it to try and separate itself from the 7800X3D to a higher degree than the rest of Ryzen 9000 vs 7000.

Considering all the marketing talk about both the better energy efficiency and the more precise boost, it's pretty likely that we see a frequency bump to something like 5200 MHz for the 9800X3D.

If the dual-CCD chips will also come with dual 3D V-cache, they'll probably end up with additional speed bumps, like 9900X3D at 5300MHz and the 9950X3D maybe even with 5400 MHz on the better chiplet.

 

[freeagent]

This makes me feel tingly down there.

 

[AusWolf]

What's the point of all these leaks so close to product launch?

CPU are so good now everything seems kinda irreverent at this point.

For some nothing is ever good enough

Agreed. They're all kind of irrelevant unless you have a 4090 and are looking for every last frame with a magnifying glass.

 

[thesmokingman]

Ooh the plot thickens...!

 

[CheapMeat]

Gah, I really want to go for it since I'm still on X99 and most of the Threadripper & Xeon W HEDT lines released recently and in the last 2-3-4 years seem 3x more expensive in comparison, even used ones on eBay, to previous HEDT (CPU & mobos) but I just really really dislike the AM5 motherboards available and/or coming out. The CPUs would be a big upgrade for me and enough but I just absolutely hate the motherboard layouts.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Moar gaming power!!!

More productivity power you mean. 7800X3D is a one trick pony, hopefully this means 9800X3D is worthy to own for any use case. If it has sub 105W TDP, it will be very tempting to upgrade my old 3700X. I might run Arrow Lake and AMD this year as I have two PCs.

 

[phanbuey]

Moore's law is dead who said Zen 5% was going to be a 30% IPC, maybe even 45% gais... who knows...

Yeah IDK.

Regardless of whether 9800X3D wins the gaming crown or not, MILD will cry about how it is the best processor ever, and then be like - "Remember that one thing that I said, that sort of came true? You guys heard it here first.".

I'm hoping it really is good, but im not expecting it to beat the 7800X3D by much more than 10%.

 

[AusWolf]

More productivity power you mean. 7800X3D is a one trick pony, hopefully this means 9800X3D is worthy to own for any use case. If it has sub 105W TDP, it will be very tempting to upgrade my old 3700X. I might run Arrow Lake and AMD this year as I have two PCs.

It's not a one trick pony. The difference between the 7800X3D and the 7700X in Cinebench R23 is around 5% in performance, but nearly double in power consumption.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Moore's law is dead who said Zen 5% was going to be a 30% IPC, maybe even 45% gais... who knows...

That's not true. He is often wrong but I saw him say nearly every time 15-20% with 15% being most likely and he said he did not beleive at all other leaks saying 25%+ like redgaming said. AMD themselves were touting 13% on average. MAybe they only used Linux for testing.

It's not a one trick pony. The difference between the 7800X3D and the 7700X in Cinebench R23 is around 5% in performance, but nearly double in power consumption.

Cinebench is a benchmark, in the real world using apps I use it is much slower. Sure, sometimes it is only a few % slower and in a handful of apps v-cache is important, but sometimes it is >> 10% slower. You need to look at all the benchmarks not Cinebench alone. Efficiency is great though. 9800X3D allows full OCing via PBO and with higher clocks the penalty for real world productivity will be small enough that hopefully a still great power efficiency makes it a no brainer compared to 9700X price aside.

 

[x4it3n]

The 9800X3D better be a success because ZEN 5 has pretty much failed for now... let's hope AMD & Microsoft (Windows) find what is going wrong with ZEN 5 optimization.

 

[Sarajiel]

The 9800X3D better be a success because ZEN 5 has pretty much failed for now...

In the end, it will come down to pricing... Most people aren't too thrilled about paying 35% to 50% more for new CPUs that provide a 5% to 10% performance uplift, especially if the old models are still widely available.
However, AMD being AMD, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with an MSRP of ~$550 for the 9800X3D.

 

[A&P211]

This makes me feel tingly down there.

My medical profession tells me, that you need cream on your man/woman sausage area.

 

[AusWolf]

Cinebench is a benchmark, in the real world using apps I use it is much slower. Sure, sometimes it is only a few % slower and in a handful of apps v-cache is important, but sometimes it is >> 10% slower. You need to look at all the benchmarks not Cinebench alone. Efficiency is great though. 9800X3D allows full OCing via PBO and with higher clocks the penalty for real world productivity will be small enough that hopefully a still great power efficiency makes it a no brainer compared to 9700X price aside.

10% is still nothing to write home about, especially when you factor in a 50% lower max power consumption. I had a 7700X once, and now I have a 7800X3D, and I couldn't feel any difference between the two performance-wise. I still don't regret the upgrade because of the massive efficiency gain.

 

[Minus Infinity]

10% is still nothing to write home about, especially when you factor in a 50% lower max power consumption. I had a 7700X once, and now I have a 7800X3D, and I couldn't feel any difference between the two performance-wise. I still don't regret the upgrade because of the massive efficiency gain.

I get it, but I'm not a big gamer, so productivity is more important. Looks like this time we will all be happy.

 

[Nater]

10% is still nothing to write home about, especially when you factor in a 50% lower max power consumption. I had a 7700X once, and now I have a 7800X3D, and I couldn't feel any difference between the two performance-wise. I still don't regret the upgrade because of the massive efficiency gain.

Sometimes it's worth it if only to not hear fans spinning up!

 

[theglaze]

There should be an easy reference guide for which games benefit from 3D V-Cache.

 

[Makaveli]

Sometimes it's worth it if only to not hear fans spinning up!

Use an aio on your CPU then that won't be an issue.

 

[AusWolf]

Use an aio on your CPU then that won't be an issue.

Using an AIO didn't work on my 7800X3D for some reason. It overheated even after several repaste attempts. It's happy under a Dark Rock 4 in a semi-passive operation now.

I get it, but I'm not a big gamer, so productivity is more important. Looks like this time we will all be happy.

I get that, but 10% difference still isn't much, imo. If you disagree, that's fine.

 

[KaitouX]

It's not a one trick pony. The difference between the 7800X3D and the 7700X in Cinebench R23 is around 5% in performance, but nearly double in power consumption.

You can just set the 7700X to the same power limits as the X3D and get basically the same efficiency. Just look at the 7700, which is the same as the X but with the lower power limit by default.

 

[Guwapo77]

Moore's law is dead who said Zen 5% was going to be a 30% IPC, maybe even 45% gais... who knows...

Yeah IDK.

Regardless of whether 9800X3D wins the gaming crown or not, MILD will cry about how it is the best processor ever, and then be like - "Remember that one thing that I said, that sort of came true? You guys heard it here first.".

I'm hoping it really is good, but im not expecting it to beat the 7800X3D by much more than 10%.

Link the video or article he ever said 30%... He certainly said 15%.

 

[Space Lynx]

The 9800X3D better be a success because ZEN 5 has pretty much failed for now... let's hope AMD & Microsoft (Windows) find what is going wrong with ZEN 5 optimization.

they already did, it's been fixed in Windows 11 24H2 or w.e that big update is called.