Windows 11 General Discussion

[lexluthermiester]

Recall is a preview of what Win13 explorer will be !.?

That's funny stuff.

I meant Win12

Still funny!

Windows 13 is probably on a product manager's roadmap, at most.

Very doubtful.

I don't think they're even that deep in Windows 12's planning.

They're not. Rumor has it that Windows 11 is tracked for a 15 year mainstream support life cycle, a change that hasn't been made public yet. That's just a rumor though. What isn't a rumor is that Windows 12 isn't even in alpha stage ATM.

 

[Onasi]

Frankly, I think that most of the changes might have been implemented into 10 and I fully believe that at a certain past point the whole “10 is the last Windows and would be just updated going forward” was perhaps something MS themselves believed in and were planning on. But something changed and I think (and this is solely my speculation) that they’ve invested so much time and resources into 10X as a project that the need to justify it kicked in and that’s why 11 exists. Since there isn’t any comparable thing currently in the works I think we can safely say that 11 as a baseline is here to stay, especially seeing how extensively they modified the kernel for 24H2. They’ve taken essentially two years to fully finally both separate 11 from 10 definitively and bring all the different products using Windows to the same point (Desktop, Enterprise, IOT, Embedded, Server, XBawks - all is now running the new kernel). They bet the house on the thing.
So no, I don’t think there is any plans for 12 anytime soon.

 

[windwhirl]

I guess that tracks.

That aside, I heard on Reddit that EU users are not getting Recall (due to GDPR), but I can't confirm that myself.

 

[Klemc]

I guess that tracks.

That aside, I heard on Reddit that EU users are not getting Recall (due to GDPR), but I can't confirm that myself.

Oh yes ?.. bc i didn't see it listed in my French ISO that i used ADK on to uninstall all i don't want !

Windows 11 General Discussion

@lexluthermiester Mm, I think you are probably misremembering. Intel IOT offerings are Atom based mostly and those had support since Silvermont which was… 2013-ish, if memory serves? Besides, we discussed this before and I have tested it already back at work - the LTSC version behaves as...

www.techpowerup.com

It looks like to be true.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

24H2 update is broken. Still has the same bug as the preview update. sfc /scannow is broken. (Component Based Servicing problem)

23H2 is not affected.

It consistently happens and CBS always complains about WebView 2. (in CBS.log)

Hardware that 24H2 was tested on:

ASRock A320M/ac

Ryzen 7 3700X

16 GB (2x8 GB) DDR4 2666 SDRAM

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB NVMe SSD

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6600 XT

This is why my daily-driver don't have 24H2 at this time. On 24H2, the only mitigation, is to block all cumulative updates! (That means stay at '1742)

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Trying to install W11 local account in a brand new computer. Remind me the bypass trick?

Edit:NVM, I was using the forward slash. No wonder it didn't work.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That aside, I heard on Reddit that EU users are not getting Recall (due to GDPR), but I can't confirm that myself.

That stands to reason though. It'll bet the code is still in there just not active, like with the main ISO.

Trying to install W11 local account in a brand new computer. Remind me the bypass trick?

Doesn't work anymore(AFAIK). You need to use the autounattend method or Rufus. If you use the autounattend, don't use the enhanced features Rufus if you use it to make USB drives. The autounattend and Rufus settings will conflict.

Edit:NVM, I was using the forward slash. No wonder it didn't work.

Wait, it still works on 24H2? They were supposed to have taken it out..

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

It apparently shipped with 22H2, so lucky for me I guess.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Now, Microsoft is having ones happy with 22H2, go to 23H2, but it's mostly the same as 22H2.

I knew something like this could happen, so I used a PC, in my little room nearby, to test 24H2. I used a system that seems boring as heck, but actually worked very well with 23H2, so I went ahead with 24H2, after replacing 23H2 with 24H2 on the same USB flash drive that I installed 23H2 from.

24H2 is so snappy, even on a third-gen Ryzen with lower core clocks.

 

[lexluthermiester]

24H2 is so snappy, even on a third-gen Ryzen with lower core clocks.

I was testing it with a 2nd gen i3 dual core and it ran fine. So a newer Ryzen doing well is not surprising. It does seems like they've refine a few things and cleaned up some of the code a bit.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I was testing it with a 2nd gen i3 dual core and it ran fine. So a newer Ryzen doing well is not surprising. It does seems like they've refine a few things and cleaned up some of the code a bit.

Yeah, I can run it on that PC, and that bug won't be the end-of-the-world. I would have regretted putting 24H2 this soon on my daily-driver.

 

[Klemc]

I was testing it with a 2nd gen i3 dual core and it ran fine. So a newer Ryzen doing well is not surprising. It does seems like they've refine a few things and cleaned up some of the code a bit.

The ISO (FRench here) lost 1gb from 23H2 to 24H2

6.33
5.43

 

[Psychoholic]

Seems like 24H2 has finally fixed my issue with windows slideshow wallpaper.
The system would randomly freeze for around 20-30 sec at a time, while BEEPING when trying to click or scroll, research confirmed it was related to windows slideshow.

Its been a week now since upgrading to 24H2 and none of that is going on anymore.

Hope i didnt speak too soon

 

[theFOoL]

Remove Recall

LINK

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[Onasi]

Noticed something weird with the latest Tuesday KB. I haven’t touched my home PC all week (was busy) and today I got the update when it auto-searched. So far so usual. But I got ONLY the update. And now, when I decided to search manually on a whim (maybe 24H2 would be available) it got me the MSRT and the .NET update. I always got them all at once previously. Just strange. Not an issue, obviously, but weird.

 

[InVasMani]

A dedicated SSD plugged on a GPU could do the trick

Just need a old server with 256GB of ECC memory...to recall what cat meme I looked at 10 days ago.

 

[micropage7]

Seems like 24H2 has finally fixed my issue with windows slideshow wallpaper.
The system would randomly freeze for around 20-30 sec at a time, while BEEPING when trying to click or scroll, research confirmed it was related to windows slideshow.

Its been a week now since upgrading to 24H2 and none of that is going on anymore.

Hope i didnt speak too soon

usually my bluetooth dongle not work on win 11 previously it worked pretty good on win 10 but the latest update the bluetooth dongle works again

 

[R-T-B]

Just need a old server with 256GB of ECC memory...to recall what cat meme I looked at 10 days ago.

I'm 99% certain the 256GB requirement is for free disk space.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm 99% certain the 256GB requirement is for free disk space.

Yes, that is exactly what that means. Takes a ton of empty space to run.

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
Windows does seem more aggressive nowadays with reserving space when already installed too. I just checked and my home system currently lists almost 7 gigs as OS reserved on C drive. Possibly as a precursor for 24H2, but I am fairly certain I haven’t seen it reserving more than 1.5 gigs before. And this one system is running the same OS install since October 2021, so basically for the entire lifespan of 11.

 

[lexluthermiester]

And this one system is running the same OS install since October 2021, so basically for the entire lifespan of 11.

So you're running the RTM build with all of the updates it's got?

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
Yup, from the initial release up to the latest 23H2 KB. Haven’t gotten the 24H2 yet as an available update.

 

[lexluthermiester]

@lexluthermiester
Yup, from the initial release up to the latest 23H2 KB. Haven’t gotten the 24H2 yet as an available update.

Luckily, there have been no serious vulnerabilities found to worry about since the last security patch for the RTM build.

 

[Onasi]

@lexluthermiester
I suppose it’s technically no longer really the RTM build anyway since 22H2 was a full feature update and essentially re-installed the system. I know that for a fact since in the System info part of Settings the OS install date is whatever the 22H2 update install date was. So January 2023 for me. Amusingly, all the programs I installed way back with the OS still have an install date of 10/2021 in the apps panel. So it looks a bit funny.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I suppose it’s technically no longer really the RTM build anyway since 22H2 was a full feature update and essentially re-installed the system.

Good point.