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ASRock DeskMini X600 Barebones Mini-PC (Ryzen 8600G)

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The ASRock DeskMini X600 is a versatile barebones mini-PC that offers users the flexibility to build a custom system at an affordable price. Featuring AMD's AM5 socket, it supports Ryzen 7000, 8000, and 9000 series processors. With ample storage options through M.2 or SATA and the ability to add optional upgrades, it's a great choice for light gaming, office tasks, and general-purpose computing.

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I just bought four Minisforum UM773 for the same sort of money as this X600 preconfigured with 7735HS (Zen3+ 8C/16T, 4.75GHz), 680M (12CU), 64GB DDR5 and 1TB NVMe drive.

It's barely a third the size of this frankly ugly, cheap looking steel box from Asrock, and it has a boatload more connectivity with dual HDMI, four USB 3.2, 40Gb/s USB4, and another 20Gb/s Type-C.

Don't get me wrong, the socketed barebones is useful if you're upgrading another AM5 PC and have a spare CPU to put in it, but the laptop-based Mini PCs are lower power and absolutely tiny by comparison. Surely if you're in the market for a mini-PC and sub-10L mITX boxes are too big for you, then size really does matter and this generic STX board in a mostly-empty case isn't a good fit. Realistically this is just Asrock finding the cheapest most boring stamped-steel metal box to put a Generic STX AM5 board into. Maybe I'm being cynical but I suspect they made this STX board for another customer and now just want to capitalise on the existing design by slapping the most barebones case around it they could find. How long has it been since you last saw a cheap steel box where they couldn't even be bothered to paint the inside?! (It has been about 10-12 years for me...)

Minisforum UM773:
128 x 128 x 48mm (W x D x H); Volume: 0.70 litres.

DeskMini X600:
155 x 155 x 80mm (W x D x H); Volume: 1.92 litres.

IMO it's too big and too ugly to have any kind of chance in the market alongside smaller, better-designed competition from all the other major motherboard brands (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) as well as a ton of even better competition from Beelink, Minisforum, who specialise in these things and then also all the ultra SFF devices from corporate providers from Lenovo, Acer, Dell etc.

Honestly, this feels like a more fitting award:

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It seems the second RAM module is not properly locked in. (Just for information. I'm well aware of, that the system was only used for a short time period for a review most likely).



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I like the concept. I dislike the external power brick which makes it bulky. I also expect a very low efficiency for the power brick. I would prefer a bigger form factor with a standard power supply unit with 80 gold certification with standard size desktop RAM modules. More space for a decent air cooler for the processor with 160mm height (assuming this is the standard heigth).

I do not want to see VGA or RS-232 (without checking the specs) in year 2025 on any desktop computer. There are plenty of alternatives with the legacy vga connector.

The external power brick is for any monitor or desktop computer or nas or any other device for me a big negative point.
 
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I just bought four Minisforum UM773 for the same sort of money as this X600 preconfigured with 7735HS (Zen3+ 8C/16T, 4.75GHz), 680M (12CU), 64GB DDR5 and 1TB NVMe drive.

It's barely a third the size of this frankly ugly, cheap looking steel box from Asrock. The 8C CPU is faster than the 2C+4c Zen4C combo whilst also pulling less power, and the 12CU IGP is somewhere between 2-3x more capable, primarily because it has quadruple the ROP count of the hopelessly-crippled 4CU IGP in the 8600G. Not even astronomical clockspeeds can put the 8600G's IGP even on the same playing field of what's essentially the GPU configuration of choice for gaming handhelds like the Ally and Steam Deck.
You're thinking of the 8500G, not the 8600G
 
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You should have performed your tests with the latest official BIOS "4.03" because the "3.02" with which you performed your tests is clearly buggy (in addition to using a fairly old version of the AGESA AM5 firmware), because it limits CPU performance (because of the STAPM bug that throttles you) and iGPU, it is limited because of the STAPM bug too but there is also another problem that is added to this one and which was only corrected in the latest official BIOS "4.03". And frankly it's also a shame that you didn't exploit the potential of this little bomb (when it is well equipped and adjusted) by installing a more efficient heat sink than the one supplied originally (which is only present in the bundle to help you out if you don't have one) like a Thermalright AXP90-X47 (see the "full copper" model which dissipates up to 140 Watts of TDP officially) and in the "Performance Mode" (equivalent to "PBO On") in the BIOS to let your Ryzen 5 8600G express all its performances.

There is also an "unofficial" variant (but coming from the ASRock BIOS department) of the latest BIOS "4.03", the test BIOS "4.03.MEM01" which unlocks access to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, settings which will finally be "officially" available in the next final BIOSes that will be released for the DeskMini X600 (source: an email received personally from the ASRock BIOS department), this test BIOS is perfectly stable and has allowed me so far thanks to these accesses to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, to overclock my Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38 DDR5 SO-DIMM 32GB (2x16GB) kit up to a perfectly stable 8000MHz CL38, this allowing me to drastically increase the performance of my iGPU "Radeon 780M" of my Ryzen 7 8700G, by about 40-50% depending on the game thanks to the extra DDR5 RAM bandwidth.

The test BIOS in question can be downloaded here:

 
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You're thinking of the 8500G, not the 8600G
Yeah, I was before I double-checked the 8600G, which is actually fine; still slower than the 12CU in the 680M, but not by enough that it's really an issue.
My issue with the X600 really isn't the graphics, since there's a socket so you can put in a CPU with better or worse iGPU depending on what your budget allows, the 680M in the Minisforum UM773 was just a single comparison since the same 32GB/1TB combo will set you back about $500 right now. I've edited my earlier post anyway.

it's more the fact that this is a (relatively) huge, ugly, cheap box in a sea of compact, attractive, premium offerings. If the X600 was actually a lot cheaper, then maybe it'd make more sense, but right now it's not even that cheap...
 
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I like the concept. I dislike the external power brick which makes it bulky.
I'd much rather have an external brick hidden away from view and not contributing to the thermal envelope of the case.
I also expect a very low efficiency for the power brick.
Why would you? Datasheet claims 88% efficiency
 
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Yeah, I was before I double-checked the 8600G, which is actually fine; still slower than the 12CU in the 680M, but not by enough that it's really an issue.
My issue with the X600 really isn't the graphics, since there's a socket so you can put in a CPU with better or worse iGPU depending on what your budget allows, the 680M in the Minisforum UM773 was just a single comparison since the same 32GB/1TB combo will set you back about $500 right now. I've edited my earlier post anyway.

it's more the fact that this is a (relatively) huge, ugly, cheap box in a sea of compact, attractive, premium offerings. If the X600 was actually a lot cheaper, then maybe it'd make more sense, but right now it's not even that cheap...
That's why there are different sizes. None of those smaller boxes have the same clearance for cpu cooling, which some people might prefer over making it as small as possible.
 

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You should have performed your tests with the latest official BIOS "4.03" because the "3.02" with which you performed your tests is clearly buggy (in addition to using a fairly old version of the AGESA AM5 firmware), because it limits CPU performance (because of the STAPM bug that throttles you) and iGPU, it is limited because of the STAPM bug too but there is also another problem that is added to this one and which was only corrected in the latest official BIOS "4.03". And frankly it's also a shame that you didn't exploit the potential of this little bomb (when it is well equipped and adjusted) by installing a more efficient heat sink than the one supplied originally (which is only present in the bundle to help you out if you don't have one) like a Thermalright AXP90-X47 (see the "full copper" model which dissipates up to 140 Watts of TDP officially) and in the "Performance Mode" (equivalent to "PBO On") in the BIOS to let your Ryzen 5 8600G express all its performances.

There is also an "unofficial" variant (but coming from the ASRock BIOS department) of the latest BIOS "4.03", the test BIOS "4.03.MEM01" which unlocks access to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, settings which will finally be "officially" available in the next final BIOSes that will be released for the DeskMini X600 (source: an email received personally from the ASRock BIOS department), this test BIOS is perfectly stable and has allowed me so far thanks to these accesses to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, to overclock my Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38 DDR5 SO-DIMM 32GB (2x16GB) kit up to a perfectly stable 8000MHz CL38, this allowing me to drastically increase the performance of my iGPU "Radeon 780M" of my Ryzen 7 8700G, by about 40-50% depending on the game thanks to the extra DDR5 RAM bandwidth.

The test BIOS in question can be downloaded here:

Good to know! on the BIOS front but the review process was already underway. I ended up with delays due to some benchmarks not wanting to cooperate (not bios-related those benchmarks have been dropped going forward due to issues encountered on multiple systems) but for shits and grins ill take a look and grab the newest bios and run a couple of tests see if there are any noticeable performance changes.
 
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With these SFF devices it would be nice to also have comparative review info on idle power draw, wake on LAN capability, and if the power saving modes work properly. These devices make great little standby servers for simple NAS boxes and Plex, among other uses.

I just bought four Minisforum UM773 for the same sort of money as this X600 preconfigured with 7735HS (Zen3+ 8C/16T, 4.75GHz), 680M (12CU), 64GB DDR5 and 1TB NVMe drive.

It's barely a third the size of this frankly ugly, cheap looking steel box from Asrock, and it has a boatload more connectivity with dual HDMI, four USB 3.2, 40Gb/s USB4, and another 20Gb/s Type-C.

Don't get me wrong, the socketed barebones is useful if you're upgrading another AM5 PC and have a spare CPU to put in it, but the laptop-based Mini PCs are lower power and absolutely tiny by comparison. Surely if you're in the market for a mini-PC and sub-10L mITX boxes are too big for you, then size really does matter and this generic STX board in a mostly-empty case isn't a good fit. Realistically this is just Asrock finding the cheapest most boring stamped-steel metal box to put a Generic STX AM5 board into. Maybe I'm being cynical but I suspect they made this STX board for another customer and now just want to capitalise on the existing design by slapping the most barebones case around it they could find. How long has it been since you last saw a cheap steel box where they couldn't even be bothered to paint the inside?! (It has been about 10-12 years for me...)

Minisforum UM773:
128 x 128 x 48mm (W x D x H); Volume: 0.70 litres.

DeskMini X600:
155 x 155 x 80mm (W x D x H); Volume: 1.92 litres.

IMO it's too big and too ugly to have any kind of chance in the market alongside smaller, better-designed competition from all the other major motherboard brands (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte) as well as a ton of even better competition from Beelink, Minisforum, who specialise in these things and then also all the ultra SFF devices from corporate providers from Lenovo, Acer, Dell etc.

Honestly, this feels like a more fitting award:

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One reason I might prefer X600 over Minisforum is UEFI/BIOS update support. After having a Minisforum HM80 it got zero UEFI/BIOS updates.

That's why there are different sizes. None of those smaller boxes have the same clearance for cpu cooling, which some people might prefer over making it as small as possible.
In the X300 you could fit the wraith stealth which was a perfect fit once you remove the cooler shroud but it seems there are some variations to wraith stealth fans so some models may not fit. Reading elsewhere X600 is similar in this compatibility.
 
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Why would you? Datasheet claims 88% efficiency

Thanks. It would be interesting how it compares to an ordinary power supply unit.

I'd much rather have an external brick hidden away from view and not contributing to the thermal envelope of the case.

When the efficiency is really that high there shouldn't be a lot of waste heat.
I'm not sure if I understood correctly. 88% efficiency over all the load range(up to question, as i do not know the standard they mention there) at a maximum of 120 or 135 Watts.

I dislike more external cables which may get loose.

That such external power bricks are not repairable is also an issue. I had several such dead external power bricks in the past 20 years. I'm not very fond of them.

edit: It seems I have to explain it in more detail, see comment below me. There are more than two connections to plug together to just power the device. These connection do not have a lock in connection.
An ordinary Desktop ATX PSU just need one cable, just two connection point = 1 cable.
This here needs four connection points to just power the device. I hope the point is clear for the poster below me. = 1x extension cable + 1x cable with power brick and connector = 2x "cables"



 
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That's why there are different sizes. None of those smaller boxes have the same clearance for cpu cooling, which some people might prefer over making it as small as possible.
The smaller boxes don't need clearance for CPU cooling, they're running mobile chips in the 15-54W range and have more cooling than most laptops do because they're not trying to be ultra thin. I have these UM773 boxes running at 28W right now and they're basically performing like a 5700X would at 65W, thanks to the newer process node and monolithic design.

I'm sure STX will appeal to some people but being only very slightly smaller than an mITX board is a relatively trivial advantage if you're not worried about size, like you suggest - meanwhile you get all the downsides of being forced to use SoDIMMs with a desktop CPU socket, losing the PCIe x16 slot, and in the case of this DeskMini, getting some woefully minimal I/O which limits it to gamer/casual use only.
 
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Thanks. It would be interesting how it compares to an ordinary power supply unit.
88% efficient is 80 plus gold level. Many pricks have 80 plus certification these days
When the efficiency is really that high there shouldn't be a lot of waste heat.
I'm not sure if I understood correctly. 88% efficiency over all the load range(up to question, as i do not know the standard they mention there) at a maximum of 120 or 135 Watts.
That's still introducing waste heat and, more importantly, taking up a large portion of the case that could be dedicated to CPU cooling. Also those tend to come with tiny, loud, failure prone fans.
I dislike more external cables which may get loose.
It's the same number of external cables as an internal supply. They both gotta plug in somehow...
That such external power bricks are not repairable is also an issue. I had several such dead external power bricks in the past 20 years. I'm not very fond of them.
They are precisely as repairable as any desktop unit? WTF are you on about? Laptop brick capacitors are not made of angel feathers.
 
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Internal PSUs are are even less important for modern mini-PCs because all the things that used to need a bunch of separate voltage rails like 5V, 3.3V. -12V are either obsolete or too big to fit in a Mini-PC.

The eternal bricks are typically 19-20V because that's the highest voltage that doesn't require additional safety certification - and the higher the voltage, the lower the current and thinner the cables need to be which is both more convenient and cheaper. The final step-down to a lower voltage happens on the device PCB, but asides from that additional step-down they're basically the same components as an ATX12VO PSU, I think.
 
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I'm sure STX will appeal to some people but being only very slightly smaller than an mITX board is a relatively trivial advantage if you're not worried about size, like you suggest - meanwhile you get all the downsides of being forced to use SoDIMMs with a desktop CPU socket, losing the PCIe x16 slot, and in the case of this DeskMini, getting some woefully minimal I/O which limits it to gamer/casual use only.
To be technically correct, the best kind of correct: You can use a vid card with the Deskmini via nvme slot. Not a particularly elegant solution, but functional. Capable of providing a massive performance uplift over iGPU even with x4 bandwidth limitations, and this model has gen5.
 
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To be technically correct, the best kind of correct: You can use a vid card with the Deskmini via nvme slot. Not a particularly elegant solution, but functional. Capable of providing a massive performance uplift over iGPU even with x4 bandwidth limitations, and this model has gen5.
With the Deskmini's motherboard? sure.
In the deskmini with the deskmini's PSU? No.
The case lacks a way to pass the signal from the dGPU, and I very much doubt that BIOS has any of the support required to passthrough video of the dGPU to the IGP.
Also, with no other storage ports you're booting off USB media, too.

Playing devil's advocate, how much Deskmini do you have to swap out for something else before it stops becoming a Deskmini? The motherboard with a different PSU in a different case is two of the three components removed from the equation.
 
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With the Deskmini's motherboard? sure.
In the deskmini with the deskmini's PSU? No.
The case lacks a way to pass the signal from the dGPU, and I very much doubt that BIOS has any of the support required to passthrough video of the dGPU to the IGP.
Also, with no other storage ports you're booting off USB media, too.

Playing devil's advocate, how much Deskmini do you have to swap out for something else before it stops becoming a Deskmini? The motherboard with a different PSU in a different case is two of the three components removed from the equation.
You have obviously never seen it done before. Let's fix that. BTW, you can't just add a 4070 via USB 4 to a minisforum and game on; it needs its own psu too. And when I said it isn't an elegant solution I meant it. You don't leave the case on silly. And there are 2 m.2 slots on the X600 tested here. And you can also use a SATA SSD on my model, which is used in the following video. You should never need to rely on USB.


EDIT: Here's Beelink's latest solution -
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You have obviously never seen it done before. Let's fix that. BTW, you can't just add a 4070 via USB 4 to a minisforum and game on; it needs its own psu too. And when I said it isn't an elegant solution I meant it. You don't leave the case on silly. And there are 2 m.2 slots on the X600 tested here. And you can also use a SATA SSD on my model, which is used in the following video. You should never need to rely on USB.

Exactly, I myself have a DeskMini X600 (bought since last July now) with a Ryzen 7 8700G APU and 32GB RAM (Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38, oced at 8000MHz CL38 and FCLOCK@2466MHz) and I used the secondary M.2 NVMe port (the one under the mobo) to mount an M.2 2280 card adapter to OCuLink output (in PCIe4.0 4x), I was then able to test this recently after buying an external support/case for GPU in OCuLink input for around 40usd (on AliExpress), I mounted an old Corsair RM750 power supply that I had left over from an old config, and finally an MSI Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB Gaming Z Trio GPU (also a spare from an old config), and so I was able to do some tests and play a few hours without the slightest problem and this despite the limited connection in PCIe4.0 4x, I play in 4K resolution and I would say that there is a slight loss varying between 3 and 5% at most of framerate depending on the games used.

But in any case it works much better than I had imagined without knowing at the start, the only thing to say about the DeskMini X600 (forgetting the flagrant lack of USB ports), is the fact that they did not think to add an optional "M.2 to OCuLink" adapter in its original bundle (because it costs almost nothing in reality) or ideally they could have added at least one USB4.0 port (instead of this ugly useless VGA port on the back).
 
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Also, with no other storage ports you're booting off USB media, too.
The X300 supported 2 NVMe and 2 SATA.

Exactly, I myself have a DeskMini X600 (bought since last July now) with a Ryzen 7 8700G APU and 32GB RAM (Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38, oced at 8000MHz CL38 and FCLOCK@2466MHz) and I used the secondary M.2 NVMe port (the one under the mobo) to mount an M.2 2280 card adapter to OCuLink output (in PCIe4.0 4x), I was then able to test this recently after buying an external support/case for GPU in OCuLink input for around 40usd (on AliExpress), I mounted an old Corsair RM750 power supply that I had left over from an old config, and finally an MSI Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB Gaming Z Trio GPU (also a spare from an old config), and so I was able to do some tests and play a few hours without the slightest problem and this despite the limited connection in PCIe4.0 4x, I play in 4K resolution and I would say that there is a slight loss varying between 3 and 5% at most of framerate depending on the games used.

But in any case it works much better than I had imagined without knowing at the start, the only thing to say about the DeskMini X600 (forgetting the flagrant lack of USB ports), is the fact that they did not think to add an optional "M.2 to OCuLink" adapter in its original bundle (because it costs almost nothing in reality) or ideally they could have added at least one USB4.0 port (instead of this ugly useless VGA port on the back).
Feel free to post pictures of your DeskMini setup here.
 
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Booting from an USB to NVME bridge is not that worse with 10gbps USB.
 
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Would it not be cool to make our own mini PC. I wish ITX was not so expensive. This form factor or the handheld form factor should come to DIY. APUs are are at a point where they are good enough.
 
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Would it not be cool to make our own mini PC. I wish ITX was not so expensive. This form factor or the handheld form factor should come to DIY. APUs are are at a point where they are good enough.
I do lament the disappearance of cheaper mITX boards. There's no shortage of cheap mITX cases, but as of mid-AM4 and LGA1700 most mITX boards doubled in price. Perhaps it was difficulty in squeezing 16x PCIe Gen4 and Gen5 into such a tiny form factor, and also perhaps a reason why Gen4 and Gen5 appear only on the larger and more expensive laptops, often cut down to x8, too.

You have obviously never seen it done before. Let's fix that. BTW, you can't just add a 4070 via USB 4 to a minisforum and game on; it needs its own psu too.

I think you misinterpreted my reply. I fully understand how to do it because I've done it, and I specifically referenced that:
In the deskmini with the deskmini's PSU? No.

My issue is the semantics of calling this contraption a DeskMini, since most of the hardware isn't from the DeskMini.
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I do lament the disappearance of cheaper mITX boards. There's no shortage of cheap mITX cases, but as of mid-AM4 and LGA1700 most mITX boards doubled in price. Perhaps it was difficulty in squeezing 16x PCIe Gen4 and Gen5 into such a tiny form factor, and also perhaps a reason why Gen4 and Gen5 appear only on the larger and more expensive laptops, often cut down to x8, too.
mITX defiantly doesn't get enough love these days. I really like the STX format and it shows you can still make something smaller than ITX with just about the same ITX feature set. It's too bad Asrock doesn't make their STX Deskmini's ECC capable as for now my STX server downsizing dream will have to wait.

My issue is the semantics of calling this contraption a DeskMini, since most of the hardware isn't from the DeskMini.
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I find the fact you can even do this pretty interesting but somewhat impractical compared to an ITX setup with a proper case. If Asrock put some more effort into STX they could make E-STX that adds a PCIe x16 slot so one could use something like a 4060LP and HDPlex 250w/500w for a compact and fully featured sub 5L PC.

EDIT: Here's Beelink's latest solution - View attachment 368004
All the Beelink external solution needs now is the GPU power edge connector so one could forgo the PCIe cables. That would be a great addition to what they have done that you have shown us.
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mITX defiantly doesn't get enough love these days. I really like the STX format and it shows you can still make something smaller than ITX with just about the same ITX feature set. It's too bad Asrock doesn't make their STX Deskmini's ECC capable as for now my STX server downsizing dream will have to wait.


I find the fact you can even do this pretty interesting but somewhat impractical compared to an ITX setup with a proper case. If Asrock put some more effort into STX they could make E-STX that adds a PCIe x16 slot so one could use something like a 4060LP and HDPlex 250w/500w for a compact and fully featured sub 5L PC.


All the Beelink external solution needs now is the GPU power edge connector so one could forgo the PCIe cables. That would be a great addition to what they have done that you have shown us.
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I have the beelink system + EX dock on hand for review. While I wish I could have more time to test more titles. I did opt to test the system in a base config + USB4 eGPU (1650 + 4070) and the EX Dock with GTX 1650 and 4070. So you can look forward to some interesting data on that front.

You should have performed your tests with the latest official BIOS "4.03" because the "3.02" with which you performed your tests is clearly buggy (in addition to using a fairly old version of the AGESA AM5 firmware), because it limits CPU performance (because of the STAPM bug that throttles you) and iGPU, it is limited because of the STAPM bug too but there is also another problem that is added to this one and which was only corrected in the latest official BIOS "4.03". And frankly it's also a shame that you didn't exploit the potential of this little bomb (when it is well equipped and adjusted) by installing a more efficient heat sink than the one supplied originally (which is only present in the bundle to help you out if you don't have one) like a Thermalright AXP90-X47 (see the "full copper" model which dissipates up to 140 Watts of TDP officially) and in the "Performance Mode" (equivalent to "PBO On") in the BIOS to let your Ryzen 5 8600G express all its performances.

There is also an "unofficial" variant (but coming from the ASRock BIOS department) of the latest BIOS "4.03", the test BIOS "4.03.MEM01" which unlocks access to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, settings which will finally be "officially" available in the next final BIOSes that will be released for the DeskMini X600 (source: an email received personally from the ASRock BIOS department), this test BIOS is perfectly stable and has allowed me so far thanks to these accesses to the DDR5 SO-DIMM RAM voltage settings, to overclock my Kingston FURY Impact 6400MHz CL38 DDR5 SO-DIMM 32GB (2x16GB) kit up to a perfectly stable 8000MHz CL38, this allowing me to drastically increase the performance of my iGPU "Radeon 780M" of my Ryzen 7 8700G, by about 40-50% depending on the game thanks to the extra DDR5 RAM bandwidth.

The test BIOS in question can be downloaded here:

Updated to the latest BIOS, I can confirm that more options are working as I would like them too. Furthermore, I was able to get a bit more out of the crappy memory I have. However, in a like-for-like scenario, I saw no difference in benchmarks. Thus the out-of-the-box experience remains unchanged, however, those willing to tweak settings and play with it will likely eek out improved performance.
 
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I have the beelink system + EX dock on hand for review. While I wish I could have more time to test more titles. I did opt to test the system in a base config + USB4 eGPU (1650 + 4070) and the EX Dock with GTX 1650 and 4070. So you can look forward to some interesting data on that front.
Looking forward to the review.
 
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