AMD Announces Ryzen 7 9800X3D, and Price-cuts Across Ryzen 9000 Series

[btarunr]

AMD today lifted the covers off its Ryzen 7 9800X3D Socket AM5 processor powered by the "Zen 5" microarchitecture and 3D V-cache technology. The company did not put out any product specs or other details, except announcing November 7, 2024, as the product availability date for this chip. This would put its launch exactly two weeks from that of Intel's Core Ultra Series 2 "Arrow Lake-S" processors, and give reviewers time to include the performance results of the new Intel chips in reviews of the 9800X3D. AMD is looking to extend its gaming performance leadership which it held with the 7800X3D. The switch to the newer "Zen 5" microarchitecture and higher clock speeds could push gaming performance up beyond the 7800X3D by a few percentage points. The 7800X3D is already faster than the Core i9-14900K in gaming workloads, so we're being set up for an exciting clash between the Core Ultra 9 285K and the Ryzen 7 9800X3D for gaming performance.

Next up, AMD announced official price cuts for all four current models in its Ryzen 9000 "Granite Ridge" desktop processor family. Buyers in the retail channel should be able to find the flagship Ryzen 9 9950X 16-core/32-thread processor up to $50 cheaper than its launch price, which should bring it down to $600. The Ryzen 9 9900X (12-core/24-thread), the Ryzen 7 9700X (8-core/16-thread), and the Ryzen 5 9600X (6-core/12-thread), each get a haircut of up to $30. You should be able to find the 9900X for as little as $470. The 9700X should be down to as low as $330. The 9600X, the most affordable "Zen 5" part, should go for as low as $250. The price-cuts should be effective immediately. Although all pre-launch info points to this being an 9800X3D-only launch, our AMD PR contacts used the plural term ("X3D processors") when referring to the November 7 date. Could we see more than one X3D processor model launch, especially given the $50 price cut given to the 9950X? Watch this space.



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[Chaitanya]

I thought X3D might make appearance at CES in Jan.

 

[Onasi]

@Chaitanya
Zen 5 seems to be selling poorly. They had no choice but to get out the X3D early and cut the pricing.

 

[phints]

This winter is gonna be interesting for PC builds. Still pretty happy with my 5800X build (4 years old now) but 9800X3D vs. 265K is exciting. The price cuts seem odd though since these have already dropped in price since launch (9700X has been $328 for weeks already) guess this just makes it official. To make a guess I'd say 9800X3D will launch at $450, maybe a little less if 265K is really good.

 

[Dimitriman]

Price cuts probably indicate that it won't be priced higher than current MSRP of 7800x3d... Hopefully.

 

[dj-electric]

"Reimagined" means there's a heavy hint that AMD might try to pour some extra sauce in this chili. I can't imagine what it could be.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

9800X3D vs. 265K is exciting

Is it? 265K will be better for everything except for competition low res gaming with high end graphic cards.

 

[csendesmark]

Strange,
The Zen5 had already started with a lower MSRP, and it is also performing great!

 

[Chaitanya]

@Chaitanya
Zen 5 seems to be selling poorly. They had no choice but to get out the X3D early and cut the pricing.

blame lies with marketting for creating the hype and targetting the wrong segement of the market. If AMD makes Threadripper/Pro on Zen 5 platform they story will be different to Zen 5 on mainstream(as long as we dont get any more stupid rebranded chipsets).

 

[Pooch]

I'm noticing a trend with the naming/numbering of segments of pc components. Zen FIVE AM FIVE PCI FIVE DDR FIIIIIIVE , is it at all significant that they are all five or is it merely coincidence and has no bearing on anything?

 

[Dimitriman]

"Reimagined" means there's a heavy hint that AMD might try to pour some extra sauce in this chili. I can't imagine what it could be.

I wonder what it's going to be about...

 

[Daven]

There’s nothing yet to indicate we won’t get all 3D processors on Nov 7. The price cuts making room throughout the line up for 3D processors is a good indicator we might get everything soon.

 

[R-T-B]

I wonder what it's going to be about...

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You put that back where you found it, right now mister.

 

[_roman_]

I'm noticing a trend with the naming/numbering of segments of pc components. Zen FIVE AM FIVE PCI FIVE DDR FIIIIIIVE , is it at all significant that they are all five or is it merely coincidence and has no bearing on anything?

Thunderbolt Five
USB 4

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Well it shows easily which generation a product is. Basically the mainboard should be the starting point. With the chipset and uefi verison (maybe call it bios version) you can determine which parts and technology are supported.

I'm happy that AMD makes it such easy for myself. I think AM5 is the mechanical socket(choosen by amd). Zen5 should be the processor architecture. (choosen by amd)
DDR5 is the current DRAM standard.
PCIE 5 is the current slot in card standard. I think PCIE 7 is already specified and tested? I consider the M2 WLAN and NVME slots with different notches just another form factor for slot in cards.

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I just checked the Ryzen 9600X price. Still more expensive as the Ryzen 7500F / 7600 / 7600X.

I'm happy with my Ryzen 7600X. Lots of upgrade paths in the future. I could use the improved AVX512 instruction set which the 9000er Ryzen offer.

I'm very happy to have dumped my Ryzen 5800X / B550 mainboard / 2 x 32 GiB DRAM / Radeon 6600XT early 2023.

 

[PixelTech]

I know Intel and AMD have called their Zen5 and Core Ultra Series 2 the next generation of CPUs. But really, I'm not sure why more media isn't just calling it a refresh generation for both. Or the "tock" of tick tock generation of CPUs. Take the same generation before and make it more energy efficient is what this current and upcoming generation are.

 

[btarunr]

"Reimagined" means there's a heavy hint that AMD might try to pour some extra sauce in this chili. I can't imagine what it could be.

My theories (source: my ass):

1. 3D V-cache on both CCDs of the 9950X3D and 9900X3D.
2. The per-core L2 cache doubled to 2 MB.
3. High clock speeds

 

[Ruru]

Zen5 doesn't suck, its pricing sucks. I hope AMD prices them better with these price cuts.

 

[StimpsonJCat]

It's time to scrap the non 3D cache versions. It's just a nasty cash-grab that needs to stop.

The CPU is so badly designed for common home workloads (gaming) that it needs this cache to function properly outside of excel and web browsing.

 

[Ruru]

It's time to scrap the non 3D cache versions. It's just a nasty cash-grab that needs to stop.

The CPU is so badly designed for common home workloads (gaming) that it needs this cache to function properly outside of excel and web browsing.

I somewhat agree, or maybe the non-3D CPUs should just be cheaper?

I mean, I knew that on my case, I purposely bought a 5800X non-3D since it was 100EUR cheaper and I play at 4K where the CPU doesn't play in that big of a part.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

I know Intel and AMD have called their Zen5 and Core Ultra Series 2 the next generation of CPUs. But really, I'm not sure why more media isn't just calling it a refresh generation for both. Or the "tock" of tick tock generation of CPUs. Take the same generation before and make it more energy efficient is what this current and upcoming generation are.

While neither really bumped performance much, intel's CPU is definitely a new generation. It has a completely different core architecture, process-node, internal arrangement, manufacturing process (the tile arrangement...). This is not just a refresh lol.

 

[PixelTech]

While neither really bumped performance much, intel's CPU is definitely a new generation. It has a completely different core architecture, process-node, internal arrangement, manufacturing process (the tile arrangement...). This is not just a refresh lol.

Oh yeah... your right. So more like just Zen 5?

 

[Daven]

While neither really bumped performance much, intel's CPU is definitely a new generation. It has a completely different core architecture, process-node, internal arrangement, manufacturing process (the tile arrangement...). This is not just a refresh lol.

I see Intel’s architecture as a philosophical change. High IPC, many small cores for multithreading (vs logical threads) and low power on the best process no matter the fab.

AMD is more a mature architecture that cannot be significantly improved in the current incarnation without resorting to quality degrading high clocks.

 

[Onasi]

Oh yeah... your right. So more like just Zen 5?

Zen 5 is also vastly architecturally different from Zen 4, albeit being less of a jump than Arrow Lake. It’s just that almost all the changes in it are strictly aimed at the server and data center workloads, hence the minimal gains on desktop. Which, I assume, is fine by AMD.

 

[Visible Noise]

Hahahaha... Price cuts two months after launch. Good job AMD. Love the winning streak your marketing departments is on.

 

[ymdhis]

I wonder what it's going to be about...

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Keep it real!