AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Comes with 120W TDP, 5.20 GHz Boost, All Specs Leaked

[btarunr]

Specifications of the upcoming AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor were leaked to the web by a Geizhals listing. The chip comes with a processor base frequency of 4.70 GHz, and a maximum boost frequency of 5.20 GHz. The base frequency of 4.70 GHz is a significant increase from the 4.20 GHz of the current 7800X3D, while the maximum boost frequency has moved up a couple of notches from the 5.05 GHz of the 7800X3D. The TDP of the processor is set at 120 W, same as the 7800X3D, and higher than the 105 W revised-spec cTDP of the non-X3D Ryzen 7 9700X.

The specs sheet also confirms that the 3D V-cache size is unchanged generationally. The stacked 3D V-cache die adds 64 MB to the on-die 32 MB L3 cache, which is exposed to software as a 96 MB contiguously addressable L3 cache. The per-core L2 cache size remains 1 MB per core. The biggest contributor to generational gaming performance increases will rest on the increase in frequencies, the new "Zen 5" microarchitecture and any IPC improvements on offer, plus L3 cache performance improvements AMD introduced with "Zen 5." We recently reported a spectacular theory that AMD has designed the 9800X3D such that the stacked 3D V-cache is positioned below the 8-core CPU complex die chiplet, and not above it, which should significantly improve thermals, and clock speeds.



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[529th]

1st comment, lol

Still content with my 5800X3D for the games I'm playing. Will be interesting to see how this new chip pans out. Looking forward to more excellent CPU reviews from the Wizzard

 

[Onasi]

So 10-15% increase over the 7800X3D I would speculate. Still, at this point AMD basically competes with itself ala NVidia in GPUs, so it will absolutely be enough.

 

[kondamin]

Kernels?

 

[AusWolf]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

One needs to remember that under ideal cooling, the 7800X3D runs between 4.8-5 GHz at all times as it is not constrained by power at all. Therefore, base clock doesn't mean anything, and a 200 MHz max boost bump isn't much, even if the chip can maintain it 24/7 just like the 7800X3D can.

I don't want to be negative, but this sounds to me like Zen 5% all over again.

 

[dgianstefani]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

One needs to remember that under ideal cooling, the 7800X3D runs between 4.8-5 GHz at all times as it is not constrained by power at all. Therefore, base clock doesn't matter, and a 200 MHz max boost bump isn't much, even if the chip can maintain it 24/7 just like the 7800X3D can.

I don't want to be negative, but this sounds to me like Zen 5% all over again.

The main perk is if you can overclock since the cache is now under the cores. Being able to lock all cores to 5.4 would make me buy one.

 

[AusWolf]

The main perk is if you can overclock since the cache is now under the cores. Being able to lock all cores to 5.4 would make me buy one.

If that's the case, that'll be interesting. Let's see if rumours about the reversed cache/CCD are true, and how much they improve on thermals.

Edit: if it was really such a significant improvement, then AMD would have gone with a higher max boost clock, methinks.

 

[Onasi]

The main perk is if you can overclock since the cache is now under the cores. Being able to lock all cores to 5.4 would make me buy one.

*rumored to be under the cores. Let's see if it actually is when the damn thing releases. I also have doubts that locking all cores to 5.4 would actually result in a meaningful uplift to performance, but, again, remains to be seen.

 

[Frick]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

One needs to remember that under ideal cooling, the 7800X3D runs between 4.8-5 GHz at all times as it is not constrained by power at all. Therefore, base clock doesn't mean anything, and a 200 MHz max boost bump isn't much, even if the chip can maintain it 24/7 just like the 7800X3D can.

I don't want to be negative, but this sounds to me like Zen 5% all over again.

I keep thinking about this though, where the 9600x is sniffing about the 5800x3d. I'm really interested in how the 9800x3d will perform in simulation style games.

 

[SL2]

I don't want to be negative, but this sounds to me like Zen 5% all over again.

That could be true, assuming that Zen5 gets exactly the same performace uplift with added V-cache as Zen4 does.

Like I've said before, it could be that regular Zen5 is more cache starved than Zen4 after all the architectural changes, which are substantial. Not that I expect any miracles or high numbers.

Purely speculating, of course.

 

[Daven]

I doubt that 7800X3D users will see much of a difference but 5800X3D users should see a good increase and non 3D users on AM4 might see GPU generational increases in frame rates.

 

[Hyderz]

Mm 9800x3d tempting upgrading from my 9900k…

 

[AusWolf]

I keep thinking about this though, where the 9600x is sniffing about the 5800x3d. I'm really interested in how the 9800x3d will perform in simulation style games.

Judging only by clock speeds, I'd say about 5-7% better than the 7800X3D. We'll see.

 

[SL2]

Saying that there's no point in upgrading from a 7800X3D is the kicking-at-an-open-door of the year lol, I see it over and over again in several threads.

 

[Klemc]

It will become 10% less over 7800x3d when Win update will introduce a bug that auto-enables/forces RECALL !!!

It's now an NPU right ?

 

[btk2k2]

I keep thinking about this though, where the 9600x is sniffing about the 5800x3d. I'm really interested in how the 9800x3d will perform in simulation style games.

Assuming scaling from the 9700X to 9800X3D is similar to 7700X to 7800X3D scaling you may be looking at a pretty good bump in this title.

On average though with a small relative clock speed bump and the typical Zen 5 gaming uplift I think 10% is about the top end off what you can expect the uplift over the 7800X3D to be across a decent sample size.

 

[Daven]

Assuming scaling from the 9700X to 9800X3D is similar to 7700X to 7800X3D scaling you may be looking at a pretty good bump in this title.

On average though with a small relative clock speed bump and the typical Zen 5 gaming uplift I think 10% is about the top end off what you can expect the uplift over the 7800X3D to be across a decent sample size.

What about going from a 5800X to a 9800X3D? Probably up to 30% fps increase in some games at 1080p. That’s like upgrading your GPU gen-to-gen.

 

[izy]

I was hopping for a 5.4Ghz boost but eh , lets see the benchmarks

 

[Frick]

Judging only by clock speeds, I'd say about 5-7% better than the 7800X3D. We'll see.

Look at the difference between the 7700x and the 7800x3d and then at the difference between the 7600x and the 9600x.

 

[John974]

What about going from a 5800X to a 9800X3D? Probably up to 30% fps increase in some games at 1080p. That’s like upgrading your GPU gen-to-gen.

With a 4090 maybe......

 

[bug]

The main perk is if you can overclock since the cache is now under the cores. Being able to lock all cores to 5.4 would make me buy one.

Overclocking these is not limited by the cache being on top or not. It's limited by AMD having to set some clocks/ratios in stone.

 

[Bwaze]

Ryzen 7 9800X3D trails Core i9-14900K in leaked PugetBench benchmarks — upcoming Zen 5 3D V-Cache chip shows good performance uplift over Ryzen 9000

Interestingly, PugetBench usually doesn't leak their benchmarks, but they have been very loudly pro-Intel in every case for years now, first downplaying Ryzen and Threadripper leads in productivity, then showing Intel lead way out of proportion, then downplaying Intel failing chips claims (even when Intel admitted them)...

"Third-party benchmark results (via momomo_us) of the upcoming Ryzen 7 9800X3D, in the form of PugetBench results in Adobe Premiere Pro and Davinci Resolve, have been published online. The Ryzen 7 9800X3D sees a multi-threaded improvement of 5% versus its predecessor in Davinci Resolve."

So no magical uplift of productivity in new X3D CPUs as some have prophecised.

 

[Dr_b_]

All AMD has to do is release the 9800X3D and make sure it has no performance regressions

 

[SL2]

So no magical uplift of productivity in new X3D CPUs as some have prophecised.

I dunno, who exactly had speculated that it would be faster than a 14700K?

46 % faster than a 7700X and 41 % faster than a 9700X in one benchmark.

4 % faster than a 7800X3D in another.

Really, you draw a conlusion from that lol

 

[Chomiq]

Looks good, but thanks to 5800X3D I'm done with the CPU upgrades until I get a better GPU. That being said: