AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Comes with 120W TDP, 5.20 GHz Boost, All Specs Leaked

[AusWolf]

Saying that there's no point in upgrading from a 7800X3D is the kicking-at-an-open-door of the year lol, I see it over and over again in several threads.

I'm only comparing to the 7800X3D as the direct predecessor of this thing. I never looked at it from an upgrade point of view. In fact, I do think that single generational upgrades are a waste of money, as I've mentioned many times before in several other threads.

I think they went with higher base clocks mainly to demonstrate how it will compare to 7800X3D in applications. Or maybe just to leave some OC headroom for gamers. There are rumors that 9800X3D has already been seen with 5.2+ GHz clocks (while running GeekBench). Maybe it will boost a bit higher when only few cores are in use. I've seen my 5600X boost up to 4.85 GHz after certain AGESA update but in the AMD specs there is boost clock "up to 4.6 GHz. Personally, I think that AMD indeed takes into account that everyone will go PBO and some will leverage unlocked multiplier.

Anyway, we won't really know whether these specs are true until 7th of November.

Sure, but like I said, base clock doesn't matter when the 7800X3D boosts to 4.8-5 GHz all day and night. You'll never see it at its base of 4.2, which could have been 4.6, or even 1.5, the end result would have been the same.

 

[Lew Zealand]

For whatever reason, that scaling doesn't seem to change much even at much lower performance tiers.
PCIe 4.0 x8 or PCIe 3.0 x16 is close to optimal, but performance starts to drop of measurably if you slap an 8-lane card like a 6650XT into a PCIe 3.0 motherboard.

What? Do you really consider a 2.2% performance reduction worth mentioning? I doubt anyone here does.

 

[windwhirl]

People say the 5700X3D is a great deal.. but it is half a GHz slower than the 5800X3D

400 MHz isn't worth the 100 dollars difference in my region.

For whatever reason, that scaling doesn't seem to change much even at much lower performance tiers.

I'd have to ask someone who knows better, but my guess is, aside from the transfer of graphic assets to the GPU, there's not *that much* data moving through the PCIE lanes. So you can get away with less lanes or lower PCIE speed without any significant performance loss.

 

[xSneak]

My 7800x3d is able to run all core at 5.0 ghz on cinebench with a simple overclock - another 200 mhz isn't exciting at all.

 

[freeagent]

My 7800x3d is able to run all core at 5.0 ghz on cinebench with a simple overclock - another 200 mhz isn't exciting at all.

Seems about normal, the better ones are up around 5300 by the looks of it.

9800X3D will be faster than 7800X3D for sure both with ipc and mhz.

 

[GhostRyder]

The main perk is if you can overclock since the cache is now under the cores. Being able to lock all cores to 5.4 would make me buy one.

Now that is something I can get behind. I would love to see some overclocking on this series of chips. Would make me get one in a heartbeat!

I had not heard about the cache being under the cores so that is pretty cool!

 

[ThomasK]

So, at this point, 9000 series is a skip.

Let's wait until AMD decides to use TSMCs 3nm, for a change.

 

[windwhirl]

So, at this point, 9000 series is a skip.

Let's wait until AMD decides to use TSMCs 3nm, for a change.

Depends on your needs and your current equipment. You're on a 7000 series tho, so it makes sense to just skip and wait for whatever comes in a year or two, one or two generations in the future.

 

[ThomasK]

Depends on your needs and your current equipment. You're on a 7000 series tho, so it makes sense to just skip and wait for whatever comes in a year or two, one or two generations in the future.

Hopefully I'll keep my motherboard.

 

[windwhirl]

I'm sitting on a 3600 so, I might do an AM5 build and get a 9000 series processor for myself (X3D or not, it will be a good jump). My mom's desktop PC could use a replacement so moving her from the aging i3-4330 to my current 3600 would be a massive improvement for her.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Pretty sure that's not gonna happen

They were pretty easy to get for $300-320 for a while people should have jump on them. I got 4 around that price for builds.

 

[A Computer Guy]

So, at this point, 9000 series is a skip.

Let's wait until AMD decides to use TSMCs 3nm, for a change.

That's the route I took coming from 5950x but only because I found a once in a blue moon special on Amazon for new 7950x that would have made ebay shoppers furious.

 

[1d10t]

I predicted uplift could be quite noticeable, ~15% in gaming and around ~10% in productivity task.
Seems too optimistic but I had no choice after selling my 7800X3D at profit

 

[Redwoodz]

I think some people have their head in the sand (or old silicone!) I have yet to see one Zen4 or 7000 cpu show higher single threaded performance than an I9 14900k, Zen 5 9000 does. There are tweaks to the memory performance too, with lower latency and higher bandwith.

 

[LittleBro]

What I'm interested in is can you lock all cores like normal Ryzen chips I've zero interest in pbo.

What do you mean? If you can manually set core multiplier to certain value? Of course, this will be available. PBO is optional and can be disabled in BIOS.

I think some people have their head in the sand (or old silicone!) I have yet to see one Zen4 cpu show higher single threaded performance than an I9 14900k, Zen 5 does. There are tweaks to the memory performance too, with lower latency and higher bandwith.

Is there one proper re-test of Zen 4 or Zen 5 with all the fixes for Windows 11? Everything that really unlocks the potential?

 

[jaszy]

I don't expect it to be much better than 7800X3D via games, but the innate IPC gains are welcomed.

Guru3d benched around 8-9% benefit for 9000 over 7000 clock for clock (Cinebench). CPUZ bench reflects sort of the same story.

Should be a more snappy CPU over predecessor, while offering better objective performance in pretty much everything else.

 

[SL2]

They were pretty easy to get for $300-320 for a while people should have jump on them. I got 4 around that price for builds.

I wonder if they're EOL.

Remember what happened before the 9000 launch.

AMD did nothing with the 7000's.
AMD launched the 9000's.
No one/few saw the 9000's worthwhile and bought 7000's instead.

AMD learned a lesson and cut/stopped 7000X3D production in time for the 9800X3D launch. Possibly using that production capacity for the latter anyway.
In the meanwhile, the 7000X3D prices goes up due to lack of supply. All three models, even the 12 core which have no successor for months is currently at $600.
Now some people interpret this as the 9800X3D costing $600.

 

[Klemc]

9000 can be put in 7000's motherboard, so no problem.

 

[Raiden85]

It will become 10% less over 7800x3d when Win update will introduce a bug that auto-enables/forces RECALL !!!

It's now an NPU right ?

MS has actually enabled that stupid feature on non-NPU systems as well in 24H2, as this was enabled automatically at some point on my 7950X3D

It can be disabled through PowerShell, thankfully. Even if it doesn't work, I still don't want that crap switched on.

 

[Chrispy_]

What? Do you really consider a 2.2% performance reduction worth mentioning? I doubt anyone here does.

IIRC those results use ReBAR and PCIe 3.0 motherboards (eg B350, X370, Some B450 and X470) typically don't have it, which worsens the gap.

I said measurable, I have a feeling it's around 6-7% without ReBAR but it's not really enough to worry about, just something to understand is happening.

 

[AusWolf]

MS has actually enabled that stupid feature on non-NPU systems as well in 24H2, as this was enabled automatically at some point on my 7950X3D

It can be disabled through PowerShell, thankfully. Even if it doesn't work, I still don't want that crap switched on.

Even Windows 10 22H2 did that on my system (no NPU here, either). I can't wait to finish the new Alan Wake 2 DLC so I can wipe my system completely and switch to Linux. Microsoft has gone too far this time.

 

[Klemc]

MS has actually enabled that stupid feature on non-NPU systems as well in 24H2, as this was enabled automatically at some point on my 7950X3D

It can be disabled through PowerShell, thankfully. Even if it doesn't work, I still don't want that crap switched on.

Looks like EU ISO doesn't have it like windwhirl said in Win11 thread, as a French ISO user i didn't have it listed in ADK app/x i deinstalled btw, looks true.

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That aside, I heard on Reddit that EU users are not getting Recall (due to GDPR), but I can't confirm that myself.

 

[Chrispy_]

People say the 5700X3D is a great deal.. but it is half a GHz slower than the 5800X3D, which is half a GHz slower than 7800X3D, and you cant overclock any of them, and by that I mean go above stock power limits, and use boost override.

This one should be good.. if not, I am waiting for Zen 6 lol

The 5800X3D is unobtainable now and even before stocks dried up it was commanding a $320 price.
The 5700X3D has frequently sold for under $190 and is only $209 right now, which is a massive 40% price cut for not even a 10% performance drop.

If you're not buying a 4090 and instead have a more modest GPU like a 7700XT or a 4070 then spending more than double on a 7800X3D platform isn't going to net you any improvement at all.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

He's not the best benchmarker but J2C just basically leaked this murders everything in gaming in a cudimm video he published.

 

[Dawora]

I doubt that 7800X3D users will see much of a difference but 5800X3D users should see a good increase and non 3D users on AM4 might see GPU generational increases in frame rates.

Good increase if using Rtx4090 and 1080p

Seems about normal, the better ones are up around 5300 by the looks of it.

9800X3D will be faster than 7800X3D for sure both with ipc and mhz.

Faster in games? using 4090? sure
how about using slower GPU and maybe 1440p resolution?
1-3% difference maybe?

I predicted uplift could be quite noticeable, ~15% in gaming and around ~10% in productivity task.
Seems too optimistic but I had no choice after selling my 7800X3D at profit

Sure sure, just go and buy 4090 and u maybe get +10% even 15% if gaming 1080p..

Or try 720p, difference can be even higher then, +25%?

If you're not buying a 4090 and instead have a more modest GPU like a 7700XT or a 4070 then spending more than double on a 7800X3D platform isn't going to net you any improvement at all.

Thanks, at least one see the facts