AMD Introduces Next-Generation AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Processor, $479, Nov 7

[_roman_]

The improved AVX512 instruction of the Ryzen 9000 generation does not benefit software in comparison with Ryzen 7000?

I really wonder if those guys who sold their Ryzen 7800X3d made the right choice.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Its about 5% more and it'll matter just about as much. Not very relevant - I'll take stellar efficiency then.

ever since I used a desktop efficiency/power saving wasn't really an issue for me, personally, as long as it still scales and produces results, the better, cooling also isn't an issue for me since I water cool my stuff.

I believe that is 5.2Ghz prior to PBO so you maybe adding another 200mhz to that.

if it makes 5.7ghz the better for me personally. I can just imagine the the 9950X3D being a total monster if they (AMD) allows a wide range of OC options now..

 

[Redwoodz]

I will be polite and say that was one of the first dual core cpus ever released for the consumer market. The equivalent today would be if the 9800x3d was a 32 core / 64 thread cpu.
Pentium D came out prior but those cpus were really junk.

Nah, that's not it.

Intel's New Weapon: Pentium 4 Prescott

After talking a lot about Intel's Prescott we should not forget that another processor has been declared the top model: The 3.4 GHz version of the Pentium 4, with an optional 2 MB L3 cache and designa

www.tomshardware.com

Single core P4 EE in 2004 msrp $ 999

 

[nvidiaenjoyer]

You just have too much faith in people and it's known X3D chips are sensitive to voltage when overclocking what do you think is going to happen.

fud and misinfo
they were "sensitive" to SOC voltage when motherboard manufacturers in their infinite wisdom pumped like 1.5v SOC volts into it when the max safe is 1.3
my 7800x3d runs at 105 eclk for an effective 5.3ghz, seldom uses more than 50w in games, and puts out chart topping performance in games
voltage-sensitive my ass, if that was the case you'd see 7800x3d's dying left and right

 

[Nostras]

Bit of a shame. Intel shat itself so hard AMD can now start to raise the prices more and more. Even more so now that the 7800X3D became very expensive again.

 

[AusWolf]

+8%... Probably with a 4090 at 1080p low.

Not to mention the 8% increase in MSRP.

 

[phanbuey]

B860 + 9950X3D could look good, or just wait to 10800X3D or whatever they're going to call zen 6

 

[Hyderz]

Those buying this cpu is gonna pair it with a 5090… guaranteed

 

[londiste]

Total Cache: 104 MB

Why is AMD still publishing the total cache number?

Edit:
Out of curiosity, looked at the TPU review of 285K - by same method that thing has 76MB cache

 

[ModEl4]

$480 lol.On the other hand, excellent presentation, I guess it was a given since back in the day Jack Huynh was the voice of Kim Jong Il in Team America, if I'm not mistaken.

.

 

[Makaveli]

Those buying this cpu is gonna pair it with a 5090… guaranteed

I'm buying this and using a 7900 XTX

 

[Visible Noise]

People either have short memory or were in their infancy when Intel used to charge 1k for their top of the line gaming CPU, in the good old LGA-775 days.

AMD is charging less than half as much, even after inflation, for a CPU that's designed for gamers.

If you're not gaming, then just don't buy it.

So it’s ok for AMD to screw over gamers because reasons.

Bit of a shame. Intel shat itself so hard AMD can now start to raise the prices more and more. Even more so now that the 7800X3D became very expensive again.

AMDs prices are not Intels fault. They are the fault of people like you that thought AMD was your freind.

 

[AusWolf]

So it’s ok for AMD to screw over gamers because reasons.



AMDs prices are not Intels fault. They are the fault of people like you that thought AMD was your freind.

I love it when people already on high-end systems cry that the new generation isn't worth spending their hard-earned money on.

 

[PaddieMayne]

Well as long as the reviews come out good as in runs cooler, better performance and more power efficiency when playing games, then I will be handing down my 7800x3d setup to my son which in turn means the wife will get his 5800x3d setup....so everyone gets an upgrade.

Looking forward to the 9800x3d.

 

[Mr_Engineer]

The 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.

 

[londiste]

The 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.
Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.

One has to wonder what the power efficiency will be like. Despite TDP and power limit specs, 7800X3D basically has a limit at 76W. So far it looks like 9800X3D has that raised considerably.
I guess 7800X3D higher prices these days hint at something being not quite right as well.

 

[AusWolf]

The 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.

It depends on how you look at it. I, personally, don't give a damn about productivity, so the 9800X3D doesn't seem that interesting to me.

Edit: Speaking of... Why do you think the 9800X3D will be 15-20% better in productivity? It's not what we see with the 9700X vs the 7700X.

 

[umeng2002]

Not bad. I paid full $450 retail for a 5800X in early 2021. Don't expect AMD to feel any pressure to lower prices when Intel's gaming performance is going backwards.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.

The amount of productive work that can be done with 8 cores will be always pretty limited. 14700K and 265K, which are direct price competitors from Intel, have 20 cores.

 

[3DVCash]

Back in 2011, I bought an i7 2600K for ~$320 USD. Plugging that into an inflation calculator and that comes to just under $460 USD today...

This price seems pretty par for the course really. If anything, the steep discounts on the 7800X3D spoiled people. Now that Intel has shown it can't fight back at all... I wouldn't expect to see those again.

 

[woodysyp]

9800x3d prices 3699CNY in JD.cn(CHINA) has already been fully booked!
i hate intel!
9800x3d will not make such a price and last gen 7800x3d price will not increase so much to 2899CNY,without the problems happened in intel's 13th\14th cpus!

 

[_roman_]

The amount productive work that can be done with 8 cores will be always pretty limited. 14700K and 265K, which are direct price competitors from Intel, have 20 cores.

I do not know the instruction set of the E-Cores. I assume those E-Cores are still limited and can not run the same code as the P-Cores. I assume Intel does not support AVX-512 which my software needs. The overhead or the software support for the mix Cores should be also considered. Even after 2 or more years with those processors on the market these problems still exists.

AMD has the same problem with different chiplet processors in certain Windows 11 scenarios. At least both chiplets support all the cpu instructions.

So comparing a windows 11 only processor with a generic processor sometimes do not make any sense.

 

[mb194dc]

The 9800X3D will be a better all rounded CPU compared to the 7800X3D.

Yes 8% faster in gaming is not that much, but it will probably be 15-20% faster in productivity, which was a weakness area of the 7800X3D.

% are meaningless if it's in use cases no one in the real world does. Eg 720 or 1080p with a 4090.

Ditto productivity, few do enough so that the seconds saved actually make a difference to their work day.

A cpu from the last few generations will do the same job. Only edge cases need bother upgrade now.

It's stagnation, Intel showed it with their release. Improvements to main stream use cases from new CPU generations are now largely over.

 

[Mr_Engineer]

It depends on how you look at it. I, personally, don't give a damn about productivity, so the 9800X3D doesn't seem that interesting to me.

Edit: Speaking of... Why do you think the 9800X3D will be 15-20% better in productivity? It's not what we see with the 9700X vs the 7700X.

The 9700x is running at 65w compared to the 7700x which runs at 105w.

When 9700x was later tested at 105w and with the Windows 11 24H2 performance fix, it easily gained 5-15% in both games and productivity.

The 9800x3D will be a 120w CPU, the same as the 7800x3D, but will run with 5-10% higher clocks (unlike the 9700x which ran at lower clocks compared to 7700x)

% are meaningless if it's in use cases no one in the real world does. Eg 720 or 1080p with a 4090.

Ditto productivity, few do enough so that the seconds saved actually make a difference to their work day.

A cpu from the last few generations will do the same job. Only edge cases need bother upgrade now.

It's stagnation, Intel showed it with their release. Improvements to main stream use cases from new CPU generations are now largely over.

Agreed. At 2K and especially 4K resolutions most of the CPUs will have similar FPS, that's where 1% lows become more important and reviewers should focus on more.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

OH MY, it's the second coming, the saviour is reborn.