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Is 60 degrees too hot for a m2 nvme pci-e 4.0?

just benchmarked again and it reached 76 degrees lmao

it keeps getting worse

i think i will have to do something really
 
76℃ and it's sandwiched between a big CPU cooler and the top side of a GPU that's basically a heatsoak.
You might need to put up a heat shield (like a tunnel) with horizontal airflow just to keep it in check.
You like cardboard and small zippy little fans that scream?
 
76℃ and it's sandwiched between a big CPU cooler and the top side of a GPU that's basically a heatsoak.
You might need to put up a heat shield (like a tunnel) with horizontal airflow just to keep it in check.
You like cardboard and small zippy little fans that scream?
I´m wondering , was these temps high enough to damage it ? i can only get these temps by benchmarking it , it never reaches this high in normal use
 
I´m wondering , was these temps high enough to damage it ? i can only get these temps by benchmarking it , it never reaches this high in normal use
So use it normally and relax.
 
I would say. Get some 1mm and 0.5mm thermal pads like Artic TP-3 and cut it to size for the controller and memory chip. I have a board with a similar SSD setup and the stock thermal pads wasnt making contact with the SSD when the heatsink was mounted.

I Didnt bother removing the stock thermal pad that came on the heatsink and it still provided good heat transfer even when double padded. You can remove the stock pad and add more TP-3 pads (I think they go up to 2mm... but coolermaster make 3mm pads - Your choice but Arctic says TP-3 can be stacked) but the issue is just the added cost.

Cut some TP-3 and lay it over the controller. Controller may take 0.5mm or 1mm you have to experiment which and see if the pad crushes down. The same for the NAND chip aswell but it may take 1mm.

Sometimes controllers and NAND chips arent completely 100% level with one another and the difference could be between 0.1-0.3mm. The long heatsink and its mounting system with the two screws wont account for the differences and the problem results in either no contact with the thermal pad or very little contact (if no contact at all) so you basically need to fill in the gaps where it isnt making good contact.

You could also use cheaper thermal pads, it should still show results if TP-3 isnt available or too expensive in your part of the world. I used TP-3 because its what i had in my draw.


Here is my before and after...

Before:
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After:
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Two of the 2TB SSDs sit right next to my 6700XT too so they get blasted with 70'c temps when i game. These SSDs will still run 'warm' when i game but by that time they'll only be used for reads (mainly idle after maps are loaded up) so thermals shouldnt be that high. I dont exactly know the thermals when I game. I stopped caring about the issue after I saw my changes were good but i'll leave HWmon running for now, play a few rowdy games of KF2 for an hour and see how things do.

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I did this 'mod' for all my SSDs. Even the one sitting in the highest slot closest to the CPU (the 1TB) and it still showed good results even if it wasnt struggling to stay cool originally. The WD512 SSD is a different matter I put an EK heatink on that instead of the stock motherboard one. pictured above.

At the time one of the 2TBs was hitting 95'c. I was transferring a steam game install from one SSD to another. And as you can see. its still toasty at 73'c but its not hitting 95'c no more.

Ive also modified the airflow of my case a little since then so i'll be able to update with better results later. I might be able to drop that 73'c to a 70'c but its sitting paralell to the GPu so I cant be expecting 40s or 50s.
 
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I would say. Get some 1mm and 0.5mm thermal pads like Artic TP-3 and cut it to size for the controller and memory chip. I have a board with a similar SSD setup and the stock thermal pads wasnt making contact with the SSD when the heatsink was mounted.

I Didnt bother removing the stock thermal pad that came on the heatsink and it still provided good heat transfer even when double padded. You can remove the stock pad and add more TP-3 pads (I think they go up to 2mm... but coolermaster make 3mm pads - Your choice but Arctic says TP-3 can be stacked) but the issue is just the added cost.

Cut some TP-3 and lay it over the controller. Controller may take 0.5mm or 1mm you have to experiment which and see if the pad crushes down. The same for the NAND chip aswell but it may take 1mm.

Sometimes controllers and NAND chips arent completely 100% level with one another and the difference could be between 0.1-0.3mm. The long heatsink and its mounting system with the two screws wont account for the differences and the problem results in either no contact with the thermal pad or very little contact (if no contact at all) so you basically need to fill in the gaps where it isnt making good contact.

You could also use cheaper thermal pads, it should still show results if TP-3 isnt available or too expensive in your part of the world. I used TP-3 because its what i had in my draw.


Here is my before and after...

Before:
View attachment 370355



After:
View attachment 370356


Two of the 2TB SSDs sit right next to my 6700XT too so they get blasted with 70'c temps when i game. These SSDs will still run 'warm' when i game but by that time they'll only be used for reads (mainly idle after maps are loaded up) so thermals shouldnt be that high. I dont exactly know the thermals when I game. I stopped caring about the issue after I saw my changes were good but i'll leave HWmon running for now, play a few rowdy games of KF2 for an hour and see how things do.

View attachment 370357

I did this 'mod' for all my SSDs. Even the one sitting in the highest slot closest to the CPU (the 1TB) and it still showed good results even if it wasnt struggling to stay cool originally. The WD512 SSD is a different matter I put an EK heatink on that instead of the stock motherboard one. pictured above.

At the time one of the 2TBs was hitting 95'c. I was transferring a steam game install from one SSD to another. And as you can see. its still toasty at 73'c but its not hitting 95'c no more.

Ive also modified the airflow of my case a little since then so i'll be able to update with better results later. I might be able to drop that 73'c to a 70'c but its sitting paralell to the GPu so I cant be expecting 40s or 50s.
did you use the motherboard supplied heatsink at first?
 
did you use the motherboard supplied heatsink at first?

Im still using them. All SN770's are using the stock motherboard heatsink.

This is my result after 2hrs of KF2. Ever so slightly better after I optimised my airflow.

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Im still using them. All SN770's are using the stock motherboard heatsink.

This is my result after 2hrs of KF2. Ever so slightly better after I optimised my airflow.

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i thought it would be worth to swap the adata one for the motherboard but i think it is not worth at all

did it damaged your drives at reaching 90 degrees? mine peaked at 76 , i´m wondering if there is some sort of damage on it

is it that bad to install a 120mm case fan in the gpu backplate maybe? to blow air directly to the drive
 
Its not going to damage. Just throttle and throttle harder. Drive is fine.

You dont need to add an extra fan for cooling. Just optimise airflow for your case and the rest should take care of itself. Run the exhaust fans a little slower and the intake faster for positive airflow.

Also, using motherboard heatsink is worth it. Better than the thin Adata one. more mass to soak up the heat.
 
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Its not going to damage. Just throttle and throttle harder.
i´m wondering , sorry this is a bit newbie question

i only game , download games on the PC ( would extract/zip something big at max)

the crystal disk mark writes/reads chunks of data?

at 5 loops and 1gb it peaked at 64

at 9 loops and 64gb it peaked 76

wondering if i will ever run at these temps during my use
 
Crystal disk mark is a benchmark tool. Rarely in normal average use will you have something that hammers your SSD that hard. SSDs in every day machines spend most of their lives idle and just chilling.
 
Crystal disk mark is a benchmark tool. Rarely in normal average use will you have something that hammers your SSD that hard. SSDs in every day machines spend most of their lives idle and just chilling.
i´m thinking to just leave as it is

this is about 1hour playing a game
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Get some 1mm and 0.5mm thermal pads like Artic TP-3 and cut it to size for the controller and memory chip
That's exactly what I did with my M.2 drives. I have aftermarket heatsinks on both, and applied Gelid Ultimate 1 and 2 mm pads after removing the stock ones.

My 850X is installed right next to the GPU. The highest temp I've seen when gaming was 58 C. That was in a 27 C room with the graphics card outputting constant 350 W.
 
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i also found this on hwinfo ( temp limits)

not sure if it is just a placeholder for all drives or specific to my ssd
 
hey guys i think i did solve the problem with the existing fans

bumping the front case fans to 100% decreased about 6 degrees in temps

this is with case fans at 100% ( 2 front fans 100% , 1 exhaust back pwm)
cpu max.png


and this is with default curve settings
cpu off.png


i think i will just leave the 2 front fans at full speed , is it ok?

thanks

hey guys i think i did solve the problem with the existing fans

bumping the front case fans to 100% decreased about 6 degrees in temps

this is with case fans at 100% ( 2 front fans 100% , 1 exhaust back pwm)
cpu max.png


and this is with default curve settings
cpu off.png


i think i will just leave the 2 front fans at full speed , is it ok?

thanks
considering this is a pretty much extreme benchmark , 64 is a very good temp
 
considering this is a pretty much extreme benchmark , 64 is a very good temp
Looks good to me.

For future reference, the tests you're running in CDM are too extreme for SSDs. 4 passes of 1 GiB is all that one needs to properly test an SSD drive. An extreme test would be 6 passes of 2GiB. The max testing parameters are for HDD testing and burn in.
 
Look good to me.

For future reference, the tests you're running in CDM are too extreme for SSDs. 4 passes of 1 GiB is all that one needs to properly test a drive. An extreme test would be 6 passes of 2GiB. The max testing parameters are for HDD testing and burn in.
hmm i see

i think instead of bumping fans to 100% , 2 bottom intake fans will probably help the airflow of the ssd ( without the need to always use 100% rpm)
 
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