NVIDIA RTX 40-series Stocks Begin Drying Up as Decks are Cleared for RTX 50-series Blackwell

[btarunr]

Chinese tech site Board Channels keeps tabs on the way computer hardware is moving at the very beginning of the supply-chain. It has some fascinating insights the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50-series "Blackwell" series of graphics cards. Apparently, NVIDIA has planned the transition between the current RTX 40-series "Ada" and the next-generation RTX 50-series such that there's minimal spillover inventory of the older generation graphics cards in the channel, so it doesn't end up with a situation similar to the one between the RTX 30-series "Ampere" and its successor. Back in 2021-22, the cryptocurrency mining boom, which waned toward the end of 2022, had caused an overproduction of RTX 30-series cards that lingered in the channel even as the RTX 40-series launched.

According to the report by Board Channels that's been translated by Gazlog and VideoCardz, the China-specific RTX 4090D has been vaporized from the channel, none of NVIDIA's AIC partners has any boards to sell. The RTX 4080 SUPER sees most AIC partners have their final batches shipping, which should clear out in November 2024. The RTX 4070 Ti SUPER isn't as prominent a SKU as the RTX 4080 SUPER, and is being phased out at the same pace as its bigger AD103-based sibling, with last orders shipping this month. The RTX 4070 SUPER and RTX 4070 remain the most popular high-end graphics SKUs in this generation, and NVIDIA will supply these SKUs throughout December. Given that the RTX 5070 series doesn't come out till February (with wide availability in March), this makes sense. The RTX 4060 series will phase out a lot slower than the other SKUs, given its popularity, and the fact that the RTX 5060 series won't ramp until Q2-2025.



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[Quicks]

Well if they release another 12GB 5070 then sorry I will skip another 2-3 years or just buy AMD.

 

[TSiAhmat]

Well if they release another 12GB 5070 then sorry I will skip another 2-3 years or just buy AMD.

Maybe we will get 13~14GB this time (If nvidia feels generous)

 

[Hankieroseman]

Come on 5090 and DP2.1. My money is waiting and earning interest in the bank. Anything less is like always wanting that Hemi Challenger and you settle for the six-cylinder and you are NEVER HAPPY with it.
DON'T WORRY! BE HAPPY!

 

[Daven]

Well if they release another 12GB 5070 then sorry I will skip another 2-3 years or just buy AMD.

I am actually rooting for both AMD AND Intel this time around. I hope these two compete in the 'real' GPU market below $500 with sub-300W parts that compete on perf/W and perf/$. Nvidia can have the data center market but I hope they exit the gaming GPU market and exit fast. Nvidia really screwed everything up releasing features no one asked for at prices no one can afford.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

I am actually rooting for both AMD AND Intel this time around. I hope these two compete in the 'real' GPU market below $500 with sub-300W parts that compete on perf/W and perf/$. Nvidia can have the data center market but I hope they exit the gaming GPU market and exit fast. Nvidia really screwed everything up releasing features no one asked for at prices no one can afford.

I try to read what you wrote...and my brain skips a beat. If both AMD and Nvidia are competing, then why or how is Nvidia exiting? Do you mean to imply that Nvidia will exit and AMD/Intel compete? Do you mean that the GPU and data center/AI products split off? Do you maybe mean AI collapses and the dual use nature of the GPU is returned back to being just a GPU?

I for one hope that Nvidia finds immense success in the HPC segment...that eventually will collapse when we reach peak LLM and a different fundamental kind of hardware needs to be created. At that point Nvidia will likely have to decide whether to keep the GPU division or spin it off...and the greed based decision will inevitably be to spin it off as a lower productivity and thus lower priority center. At that point Nvidia will have left-overs to sell and immense resources poured into hardware that has no practical purpose for the market (read: ray tracing cores) and have to either make a new thing (again, ray tracing), or be cost effective. It's what I hope for...even as I know that the likelier situation is simply to market fragmenting into brands representing a type of performance and price point rather than competing.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I am actually rooting for both AMD AND Intel this time around. I hope these two compete in the 'real' GPU market below $500 with sub-300W parts that compete on perf/W and perf/$. Nvidia can have the data center market but I hope they exit the gaming GPU market and exit fast. Nvidia really screwed everything up releasing features no one asked for at prices no one can afford.

you already have it. It's called the 7800xt. Or 7900GRE if you're generous.

The PS5 pro has hinted that rDNA4's RT "improvements" will be just as lackluster as rDNA3s.

 

[phints]

Well if they release another 12GB 5070 then sorry I will skip another 2-3 years or just buy AMD.

Of course 5070 will be 12GB again. I've had a 4070 for 1.5 years never once had any VRAM issue at 12GB with 1440p gaming, RT, DLSS, etc.

16GB would be great but doubt it'll happen until 6070 (when PS6 is coming out that probably has 24GB shared pool of GDDR7) then people will complain all over again.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

Of course 5070 will be 12GB again. I've had a 4070 for 1.5 years never once had any VRAM issue at 12GB with 1440p gaming, RT, DLSS, etc.

16GB would be great but doubt it'll happen until 6070 (when PS6 is coming out that probably has 24GB shared pool of GDDR7) then people will complain all over again.

Yeah well... not everyone is sensitive to stutters / 1% lows like others. That 12GB limit would have been reached and have driven me crazy, just like my RTX3070Ti did. Just because the RTX5000 series will have GDDR7 12GB VRAM, doesn't mean the issue will be solved or won't be there, it will be, oh it will be.

Think of it as a water system, you have a limited storage tank (memory capacity), that is pumped to reach it's destination (GPU) you might have a great pipeline/pump to take the water from storage to the destination (memory interface/speed) but eventually the tank will run out and as it tries to fill put new liquid in, *slurp, cough cough, sputter stutter*

nGreedia really are just taking a major dump on their customers at this point, a xx70 or xx80 + cards, should never have a memory capacity issue that runs out in it's own lifespan (generation)

 

[x4it3n]

Not surprising, but let's hope the RTX 50 lineup will be much better than the RTX 40 lineup! Because except the 4090 no RTX 40 GPU had a good value when compared to the RTX 30 (at MSRP of course) !
Also the biggest performance gap was 3090 => 4090 with about 60-70% on average and up to 2x in Ray Tracing/Path Tracing! Let's hope will see the same with the RTX 50s

 

[Scrizz]

Let's hope will see the same with the RTX 50s

I doubt it considering they'll be on the same node. Maybe if they pump power to 600W, I can see that.

 

[Prima.Vera]

If the RTX 5070 will not match or even pass the RTX 4090, then this generation is a crap flop.
I'm only saying this by the look of the RTX 5080 specs, which are crappy, to say the least...

 

[Ryrynz]

Well if they release another 12GB 5070 then sorry I will skip another 2-3 years or just buy AMD.

They will. in saying that 12GB is usually enough for 1440.. There will be a 16GB model just like there is for the 4070 which will come later so if you're pushing res/texture packs you may wish to get that or save up for 5080?

If the RTX 5070 will not match or even pass the RTX 4090, then this generation is a crap flop.
I'm only saying this by the look of the RTX 5080 specs, which are crappy, to say the least...

The 5080 I'm expecting won't overall surpass the 4090 may do in some situations though. Doesn't make this generation a "crap flop" at all just means you need to pay more.
AMD coming with new cards in early 2024 and I'm sure they'll be comparable at similar price points so it's not like people are getting ripped off.

 

[ZeroFM]

If the RTX 5070 will not match or even pass the RTX 4090, then this generation is a crap flop.
I'm only saying this by the look of the RTX 5080 specs, which are crappy, to say the least...

100% will not match 4080

 

[Prima.Vera]

The 5080 I'm expecting won't overall surpass the 4090 may do in some situations though. Doesn't make this generation a "crap flop" at all just means you need to pay more.

Oh, most definitely this will be one of the worst launches ever if the 5080 will struggle against the 4090. Oh yes.
So far, most of the good releases was piling the new x70 series against the old x90 series, and that was OK. Hopefully this will be the case now too, but I am not very confident.

100% will not match 4080

How do you know?

 

[x4it3n]

I doubt it considering they'll be on the same node. Maybe if they pump power to 600W, I can see that.

Almost the same node but Blackwell is supposed to be a brand new Architecture whereas Lovelace was mostly Ampere on a much better node and with some improvements (mostly AI related), whereas the RTX 5090 will have a huge memory bandwidth increase (512-bit + GDDR7) so that alone should bring some serious improvements knowing that the 4090 was hugely bandwidth starved! The 4090 has 60% more CUDA Cores than the 4080 SUPER but is only 30% faster... (except in Path Tracing since it mostly uses RT cores) but 99.9% of games do not use PT as of now. Therefore I think the 5090 could see a similar performance bump if Blackwell is more Efficient (power saving) and Raster + RT/PT performance have a big IPC increase too.

 

[Scrizz]

Thanks!
Maybe I'll sell my 4090 then

 

[x4it3n]

Thanks!
Maybe I'll sell my 4090 then

I'm in the same boat! If the 5090 is really worth it then I'll definitely sell my 4090 and buy it because I mostly play at 4K (which is GPU bound) unless the framerate is crap and then I use DLSS Quality (1440p) and Frame Generation if necessary too like Black Myth: Wukong and Cyberpunk 2077 w/ Path Tracing.