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How to quickly & easily fix coil-whine(coil choke noise)

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I have an ASRock 6900xt formula with absolutely horrid coil whine. It also shuts itself down due to heat.. So I figure I'll try to tackle both issues in one go. Could someone confirm the red squared objects are all chokes? And note any I missed, I wasn't sure about some of the squares... Also, the glue is okay to go on the silver that connects the choke to the board?

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I have an ASRock 6900xt formula with absolutely horrid coil whine. It also shuts itself down due to heat.. So I figure I'll try to tackle both issues in one go. Could someone confirm the red squared objects are all chokes? And note any I missed, I wasn't sure about some of the squares... Also, the glue is okay to go on the silver that connects the choke to the board?

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Those look good.
 

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I have an ASRock 6900xt formula with absolutely horrid coil whine. It also shuts itself down due to heat.. So I figure I'll try to tackle both issues in one go. Could someone confirm the red squared objects are all chokes? And note any I missed, I wasn't sure about some of the squares... Also, the glue is okay to go on the silver that connects the choke to the board?

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The column of chokes on the left of the die, at the bottom. You have what looks like a capacitor circled, but I can't be positive.

The one labeled C444 (I think).
 

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The column of chokes on the left of the die, at the bottom. You have what looks like a capacitor circled, but I can't be positive.

The one labeled C444 (I think).
Yea, I wasn't sure about that one since the top part is labeled 470 instead of R## - I was kinda just going off color for it. When in doubt I won't glue, so I'll avoid that one.

Thank you.

Edit: it's definitely a capacitor, I found a Panasonic one with the same little d symbol in the bottom right of it.
 

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Hi, thank you for sharing your tutorial with the glue mod. I have a Red Dragon RX6800XT with crazy coil whine while gaming on 4K. I undervolted the GPU and want to try out the glue fix in combination with K5 Pro for the VRAMs.
I glued the GPU yesterday and now it drying. But there are some white "corrosion" on some components, and now I am curious if I broke the GPU. Can you look at the GPU?
Unfortunately some glue come to the LED Switch, so I doesn't work anymore :D but its not a dealbreaker because I used it with custom Noctua Fans
 

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Hello, I'm new, great instructions, thank you!

pardon my English Google translate!

I have a question please! Can I also do this on my WiFi router Speedport smart 4? Or is it better to use epoxy!

Code:
https://www.amazon.de/Epoxidharz-transparent-hitzebest%C3%A4ndig-Versiegeln-Kunststoff/dp/B084Q4JHZL/ref=sr_1_35_sspa?crid=1FTAQ3YMZL7TN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uUdc81iJfyjLVckvw5zvmt3273HVyHw97hc6gjeHVylZ9XtEzI45Rq4-7AxHx1gzbvLOzRUAjGsEUZHpjpSeQG9Mtkngq8HPL2dOHmlm55EEBjTisNRK2e1VLpkuE91Oo7z6x_EKwu2DQswhlcvc7IazIljCkMEioLJqhUiuexVYon6xRPHqHvOEhyCx4naVl6_XkLSGsoLcNKwGmqip0bmcwXVvaTGOhdziejkOUHtz31T8P9Cwt6L6BPTAT-BFhJYhS7UjekuLxvd9nGixwcdaBw-yFR9bZ_bTaqEr23s.TTrUBjFeRCo3JzTfoTPi0GivZPhWkMI5pZvxV3mX_28&dib_tag=se&keywords=loctite%2B411&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731707329&sprefix=LOCTITE%C2%AE%2B411%2Caps%2C406&sr=8-35-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&th=1

Code:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoxidharz

Thank you very much !
 

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Hello, I'm new, great instructions, thank you!

pardon my English Google translate!
No worries, Welcome to the thread and to TPU!

I have a question please! Can I also do this on my WiFi router Speedport smart 4? Or is it better to use epoxy!

Code:
https://www.amazon.de/Epoxidharz-transparent-hitzebest%C3%A4ndig-Versiegeln-Kunststoff/dp/B084Q4JHZL/ref=sr_1_35_sspa?crid=1FTAQ3YMZL7TN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uUdc81iJfyjLVckvw5zvmt3273HVyHw97hc6gjeHVylZ9XtEzI45Rq4-7AxHx1gzbvLOzRUAjGsEUZHpjpSeQG9Mtkngq8HPL2dOHmlm55EEBjTisNRK2e1VLpkuE91Oo7z6x_EKwu2DQswhlcvc7IazIljCkMEioLJqhUiuexVYon6xRPHqHvOEhyCx4naVl6_XkLSGsoLcNKwGmqip0bmcwXVvaTGOhdziejkOUHtz31T8P9Cwt6L6BPTAT-BFhJYhS7UjekuLxvd9nGixwcdaBw-yFR9bZ_bTaqEr23s.TTrUBjFeRCo3JzTfoTPi0GivZPhWkMI5pZvxV3mX_28&dib_tag=se&keywords=loctite%2B411&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731707329&sprefix=LOCTITE%C2%AE%2B411%2Caps%2C406&sr=8-35-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9tdGY&th=1

Code:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epoxidharz

Thank you very much !
First point, no Epoxy! It's way too viscus to be useful.

Next, Routers that produce noise are common but usually not very loud. However if it's irritating, sealing the chokes can help. See your photo below for additional highlights:
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So in addition to the ones you highlighted, these others also are chokes and also need treatment.
 
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No worries, Welcome to the thread and to TPU!


First point, no Epoxy! It's way too viscus to be useful.

Next, Routers that produce noise are common but usually not very loud. However if it's irritating, sealing the chokes can help. See your photo below for addition highlights:
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So in addition to the ones you highlighted, these others also are chokes and also need treatment.

Great thank you! True, it's not that loud, but it's a little annoying! OK, thanks, I will do your tip, all points it comes from the 2 x blue ones What do you recommend for the router instead of epoxy? I would love a link via Amazon Germany if you have a tip! Thanks great forum

This : or Other for Router ? Thanks

Code:
https://www.reichelt.de/methacrylatkleber-multi-power-3-milchig-weiss-gelb-fluessig--glue-mp111-p98451.html?trstct=pos_2&&r=1

Code:
https://www.amazon.de/Super-Glue/s?k=Super+Glue

Code:
https://www.amazon.de/Sekundenkleber-Cyanacrylat-Superkleber-Inkl-Anti-Verstopfungskappe-Aufsetzkan%C3%BClen/dp/B0C73GXKDQ/ref=sr_1_10?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.M3tcVVrrarszMpAOPuFOLupFJ7QFehvvsUJYfy4Iy3zOV8Nzpw2utZnAgbL9zX53BBbHPp2LRZFi_A3tvBlyBrZhB__gxL0-EY1ockQksp7Utk-lupiEOi6Ed8IuKROwLZ0rJQyYioNn3nTcun6L6gojW5SxkYQ4i8lJTe5GHikK8fFARB18QIuSq60bWZQdF29roUB-2mbq4Z2-eaGZXTY3ckJR1tGi-qmN2_9FiJjsBHDpKHVq_YrXILt2QLDCpkAMfJvG_x9Xjqtocm0-eqNK1LaOnRgwPwMoHPYqpGc.ruVfrktjXcHGaUtW8m1sTm853w6XeuUSfMPqMPJ7pEw&dib_tag=se&keywords=Super%2BGlue&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1731770298&sr=8-10&th=1
 

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This is a big no.
This one seems like it would be a good one;
This one looks especially good.

As for the photo, you've highlighted capacitors, don't seal those. They're fine as-is.
 
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This is a big no.

This one seems like it would be a good one;

This one looks especially good.

As for the photo, you've highlighted capacitors, don't seal those. They're fine as-is.

OK, thank you, I will order it!

Code:
https://www.amazon.de/Sekundenkleber-Cyanacrylat-Superkleber-Inkl-Anti-Verstopfungskappe-Aufsetzkan%C3%BClen/dp/B0C73GXKDQ?

I also found this at home now, what do you say about it please

OK, just to be on the safe side, close them all again!

thank you for your good help! mfg
 

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hey! Unfortunately it didn't help much! Should I also close it at the front in the picture?

The beeping comes from the top left right (purple)! thank you mfg

If necessary, I can extend the antennas and put the router in a box

Good idea!
 

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No worries, Welcome to the thread and to TPU!


First point, no Epoxy! It's way too viscus to be useful.

Next, Routers that produce noise are common but usually not very loud. However if it's irritating, sealing the chokes can help. See your photo below for additional highlights:
View attachment 371950
So in addition to the ones you highlighted, these others also are chokes and also need treatment.
The only thermal epoxy I would still use is Arctic Silver, mixed with AS5 as a 50/50 solution to make a semi permenant bond that can be lifted with some mechanical force.
 
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The only thermal epoxy I would still use is Arctic Silver, mixed with AS5 as a 50/50 solution to make a semi permenant bond that can be lifted with some mechanical force.
While that's fair, it's not being used in a thermal transference context, only noise suppression. This whole thread is about suppressing choke coil whine and noise.
 
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I'm sorry it didn't work. Usually does, but not always. Interestingly, the choke coils are not always the noise makers.

You could build a box out of foam-core posterboard, that might work well.

Thanks, no problem!

should I glue these together too? these in the picture!?

yes, you can put it in a drawer too

Another question, do you know whether these connectors (antennas) are pigtails RG178 or Hirose? Thanks for everything! super nice!

mfg
 

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Has anyone tried to replace coils on strix cards? Or put the strix coils on other cards? Like are the coils just bad?

I got told that changing the PSU would help, it did not. Undervolting did not help either. So the cables must be bad in my house, so I replaced all cables, sockets and breakers with a certified electrician, did not help either. Now the next move would be to sell my house and move to another city, which i'm not willing to do.

While undervolting does not help, underclocking does. Reducing core clock to 2300MHz removes coil whine entirely, while 2400MHz has the same coil whine as 2800MHz
 
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Has anyone tried to replace coils on strix cards? Or put the strix coils on other cards? Like are the coils just bad?
I've thought about this, here's the problem: Choke coils have very specific winding specs. You can't just go swapping them and expect everything to work. Replacing them with the same or similar parts would likely work fine.
I got told that changing the PSU would help, it did not.
Because that's a myth. A PSU does not and can not affect the choke coil noise on GPU's.
Undervolting did not help either.
And it didn't work because changing the voltage applied to the die does not change the resonance frequency of the coils.
underclocking does.
True! Though..
Reducing core clock to 2300MHz removes coil whine entirely, while 2400MHz has the same coil whine as 2800MHz
...that's a bit interesting. This behaviour from your card indicates that the coil resonance has a specific harmonic. This could be an indicator of the windings inside the coils being loose in a very specific way. Tight enough not to vibrate at a certain frequency, but loose enough to vibrate above a certain threshold. What happens at 2350mhz?
 
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I just found/noticed this thread, and I'm simply astonished. I'm also having VERY hard time to put my words in a polite way, but trust me, I'm really trying!

That said, trying to cure "coilwhine" with superglue is somewhat similar like trying to treat infection with bandage - it's all about understanding the issue.
What really is causing the audible noise from inductors, comes basicly from two issues (which are both directly related to designers/manufacturers makings things cheap).

Very heavily pulsating current is one. This is typical for card designs lacking in filtering capacitors (or having very poor quality, high ESR ones). For example, higher power Navi21 cards are very notorious with this since they were made in era when there was severe shortage of capacitors. Combined with a bad PSU can exacerbate this - if the PSU can't deliver constant well-regulated current and/or has poor output filtering capacitors (too small, too high ESR), it can increase the "coil whine" by having higher current ripple. In these cases, replacing shitty old small PSU with a new bigger premium one, might help.

Another one is inductors ("coils") itself. Their current handling is almost always at or very close to the limit, and when inductors saturate, they start to make a lot of noise. Please notice, I keep talking about "inductors", which is what they really are (NOT coils!).

Both of those issues get worse with increased current/power draw, and reducing the powerlimit (or clocks) typically results in quieter card. Then there are cards with have these both issues, like @BobBobbing 's ASRock 6900XT, or most 6900XTs there (PowerColor's R/L-Devils are the worst!) and no amount of glue will do any good for these. Just look how the card lacks the capacitors, and those three inductors next to power connectors are frighteningly tiny! These cards, especially when overclocked, squeal like a stabbed pig!

Choke coils have very specific winding specs.
Lets put it this way: Inductors have specific characteristics, like all other electronic components. And to make it clear: these inductors that are used nowadays in modern graphics cards and motherboards etc, DO NOT have what is called "windings". A winding is a bunch of wire turned over a core multiple, usually tens-hundreds-even thousands of times. What these inductors have, is a flat copper "bar" bent to what resembles more or less of an "Omega" - shape, and then having ferrite powder compressed over the "wire". We're talking about components with nanoHenry-range (R15 means 150nH). Older ones that are in micro-Henry range, might have a few turns in them.

Has anyone tried to replace coils on strix cards? Or put the strix coils on other cards? Like are the coils just bad?
Yes and no. No for "Strix", since it doesn't mean anything - their inductors are just the same inadequate crap as every others have.

That said, I've been replacing the inductors in some cards. My current 7900XTX for example, I replaced the tiny input filter inductors with about double the size (and saturation current spec) and replaced/added some capacitors. The watercooled card is very quiet now, you can just hear it at 500W and my DDC pump is still the noisiest component in my PC.
My ITX computer has 5700XT that I replaced input filter inductors and the GPU VRM inductors about double the size (and reduced the inductance slightly). Trust me, that card is virtually silent at over 300W and the measured voltages are almost flat with very little ripple/fluctuation/peaks thanks to the much improved voltage regulation!


So why do manufacturers keep putting those small cheap noisy "coils" in their products? That's exactly why; They're CHEAP and SMALL. And they just keep selling.
I'll continue my "lecture"(=rant) a little further! I find it hilarious how most of the manufacturers keep advertising, how capable power stages their GPUs or MoBos have! Just think about it, how many times you've seen it proudly announced that this product has 70A, 90A, even 110A power stages in them? Nothing wrong with that, it's good and useful info especially for us overclockers.

...but how many times you've seen ANYONE to tell, that the poor inductor right next to that expensive 90A Smart Power Stage, saturates just at 40...50A and when pushed past that, it starts to scream and glow/melt?
Damn right, the answer is zero.
 
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Lets put it this way: Inductors have specific characteristics, like all other electronic components. And to make it clear: these inductors that are used nowadays in modern graphics cards and motherboards etc, DO NOT have what is called "windings". A winding is a bunch of wire turned over a core multiple, usually tens-hundreds-even thousands of times. What these inductors have, is a flat copper "bar" bent to what resembles more or less of an "Omega" - shape, and then having ferrite powder compressed over the "wire". We're talking about components with nanoHenry-range (R15 means 150nH). Older ones that are in micro-Henry range, might have a few turns in them.
I didn't know that. Some still are made the old-fashion way. Ask me how I know.. Good info though.

So why do manufacturers keep putting those small cheap noisy "coils" in their products? That's exactly why; They're CHEAP and SMALL. And they just keep selling.
This. And it kinda sucks..
 
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