Microsoft Office Tools Reportedly Collect Data for AI Training, Requiring Manual Opt-Out

mechtech · 2024-11-25T23:26:58+0000

eidairaman1 said:
Office 2007 ftw

I was going to say 2003 pro

The best thing about this

File > Options > Trust Center > Trust Center Settings > Privacy Options > Privacy Settings > Optional Connected Experiences, and unchecking the box.

Is "trust center and trust center settings"

lol

lexluthermiester · 2024-11-25T23:41:16+0000

Dr. Dro said:
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Can't wait for Microsoft to start training their AI on confidential documents and have their LLMs drop a few government secrets or two. Then Microsoft and their lawyers will learn the true weight of an EULA.

I won't be renewing my Microsoft 365 subscription once it elapses in January. Might just pay for Apple One instead. Or better yet - a year of Proton Unlimited, way things are going, looks like a solid VPN will be a must for the distinguished netizen in 2025.

This! All. Day. Long. Been using it since it launched and have NEVER looked back to msoffice. Oh yeah!

Dr. Dro · 2024-11-25T23:43:08+0000

Wirko said:
Looks like I've found just the right retro thread to ask, and maybe not be ridiculed...

How the hell do I transplant Outlook Express from Windows XP to Windows 7, 10 and 11?

You don't, if I remember correctly, Outlook Express relies on Internet Explorer 6 and a lot of the old OLE/ActiveX lot being present. You're not running it on anything later than XP/2003 R2. Last I remember there was a modern reboot project of this called OE Classic, but it doesn't seem to be open source and the free version comes with certain limitations. Not sure if it's even still around, it's been a very long time since I heard about it.

Darmok N Jalad · 2024-11-26T00:07:24+0000

Vayra86 said:
Its a strange world we've landed in when Word doesn't work anymore because no internet.

Wtf

Why not? New Outlook does just that. Just today, I had an email that I was trying to view, but it refused to load, despite being in my inbox. After all, MS doesn’t want you to store local-only files. The cloud is the “safe place” for all your work, and you know, if they happen to use your content to train AI models, it’s all for the best, right? Right?

windwhirl · 2024-11-26T00:08:00+0000

Wirko said:
Looks like I've found just the right retro thread to ask, and maybe not be ridiculed...

How the hell do I transplant Outlook Express from Windows XP to Windows 7, 10 and 11?

Don't even bother. If you still have a machine with Outlook Express that somehow can still connect to a mail server, probably best to migrate it to current era Outlook or Thunderbird.

If you can get a hold of an old version of Outlook (up to Office 2010) or Thunderbird (up to version 52) that has an importer for Outlook Express

Or... run a virtual machine just for Outlook Express, if you really can't stand the crappy webmail UXs or any current local email program. :pimp:

lexluthermiester · 2024-11-26T00:11:38+0000

Darmok N Jalad said:
Why not? New Outlook does just that. Just today, I had an email that I was trying to view, but it refused to load, despite being in my inbox. After all, MS doesn’t want you to store local-only files. The cloud is the “safe place” for all your work, and you know, if they happen to use your content to train AI models, it’s all for the best, right? Right?

Thunderbird. Give it a try. I converted over, never looked back.

Thunderbird — Free Your Inbox.

Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features!

www.thunderbird.net

Darmok N Jalad · 2024-11-26T00:12:39+0000

lexluthermiester said:
Thunderbird. Give it a try. I converted over, never looked back.

Thunderbird — Free Your Inbox.

Thunderbird is a free email application that’s easy to set up and customize - and it’s loaded with great features!

www.thunderbird.net

My IT department would probably say no.

I wouldn’t touch new outlook at home with a 20 meter science pole.

lexluthermiester · 2024-11-26T00:15:09+0000

Darmok N Jalad said:
My IT department would probably say no.

Ah, fair enough.

Darmok N Jalad said:
I wouldn’t touch new outlook at home with a 20 meter science pole.

Pig pole perhaps? LOL!

umeng2002 · 2024-11-26T00:25:10+0000

lol

I've been using LibreOffice for years now.

Easy Rhino · 2024-11-26T00:51:43+0000

How did people think M$ was training their AI?

AsRock · 2024-11-26T02:13:15+0000

For now, users who wish to protect their intellectual property are advised to review their settings carefully.

Better just not use it if you have the option, don't trust these so called off buttons.

solarmystic · 2024-11-26T02:48:53+0000

eidairaman1 said:
Office 2007 ftw

eidairaman1 said:
Y2k happened with cloudstrike.

I loved 97, 2000 was good as well. 2007 is the beginning of the doc(x) format compatibility, that is why i use it, nothing newer

17 years later and Office 2007 continues to be my jam due to the reasons stated by these fine posters above me. Heck if it weren't for the need for .docx and .xlsx support i'd have remained on 2003 to this day.

Darmok N Jalad · 2024-11-26T03:51:12+0000

I still have copies of Office 2000 and Office XP. I bought the former at college for something like $20 with the student discount. I barely needed Office for my degree back then, but how could I pass that kind of deal up?

Chaitanya · 2024-11-26T04:44:16+0000

Darmok N Jalad said:
I still have copies of Office 2000 and Office XP. I bought the former at college for something like $20 with the student discount. I barely needed Office for my degree back then, but how could I pass that kind of deal up?

Had purchased Win 7, Office and Lightroom 6 on my friends student ID for those prices. Definitely worth the asking price. Just waiting for the straw that breaks the camels back with this subscription, and ai BS on both consumers and government end. Its going to end badly for these companies.

TheinsanegamerN · 2024-11-26T04:45:17+0000

kapone32 said:
Unfortunately my Company has fully subscribed to 365. Of course so they can spy on Individual work PCs but the trade off is lock outs,system outages and the best we have SAP cloud for SAP and you know how those 2 play with each other,....not.

I feel for ya. My workplace trialed it, and it went down for ten minutes in the middle of big upper level meetings. People couldnt get to anything and the look on their faces when told "well the new product is int he cloud, nothing we can do" was hilarious.

They went back to google docs, but they're still pushing for full cloud intune enrollment and AD, having not learned their lesson.

windwhirl said:
That's normal operation for Onedrive.

In my experience normal operation for onedrive is total disobedience and de synced folders.

Tartaros said:
Sounds like a good time to jump ship to other alternatives. Incidentally, the key from my Office 2021 was revoked for some reason, and instead of looking for it in my docs, I just went to Libre Office. It has improved a lot since the last time I used it about 10 years ago. The same with the new Outlook, I don't like it's new layout and just went back to Thunderbird, which had to do an overhaul at some point but it's pretty nice.

I can't believe Microsoft is making the same kind of slimy mistakes that made them such a hated company 20 years ago.

There's really 0 reason for 99% of people to be using office. Google docs is free, with cloud backups and network administration. Libreoffice is free, standalone, with no spying or other nonsense. There are other options too. Paying hundreds of dollar s"because office" is one of the most boomer things I have to put up with.

eidairaman1 · 2024-11-26T05:11:53+0000

solarmystic said:
17 years later and Office 2007 continues to be my jam due to the reasons stated by these fine posters above me. Heck if it weren't for the need for .docx and .xlsx support i'd have remained on 2003 to this day.

I put it on w11 in 2021 due to 2003 lacking needed functions

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Microsoft Office Tools Reportedly Collect Data for AI Training, Requiring Manual Opt-Out

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