GPU upgrade - buy 7900xtx or 4080 Super now or wait for next gen release in 2025?

[AVATARAT]

As someone who made the jump from long using Radeon to Nvidia (7900 XT > 4080 super) (Windows).

I can say that Nvidia is in the stone age... I have to use MSI Afterburner, Nvidia Inspector and other third party software to overclock the card and change the settings.
If I want to use Frame Generation, the game must support it. I can't just turn it on from the menu like in Adrenaline, (and that's really nice for some old games!)
If I want to use DLSS, the game must support it. I can't just turn it on from the menu like in Adrenaline.

Nvidia only have one DLAA if the game supports it, and one stupid DLSS which is slightly better as a visual.
Yes, Nvidia is a bit more power efficient right now, but if I start to care about 2-5$/month - then I shouldn't buy a 4080 card to begin with...
Regarding drivers... If I want maximum performance for benchmarks, I need to check which Nvidia driver will give me the best and reinstall for the specific benchmark/game.
I don't want to talk about using a widescreen monitor and setting unsupported resolutions/scales for benchmarking

Oh yeah, if I do a bad clock and the driver crashes - the Nvidia driver picks up very quickly, no 30 sec. wait on a black screen like Radeon - so cute...
Regarding game driver support - maybe Nvidia is faster, but in most cases both depend on game developers.

So dear Nvidia fans - just stop. Using an Nvidia card may be even harder than Radeon.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Personally, I'm very interested to see what RDNA4 brings to the table. Give me 30% more rasterised performance and 50% RT than an XTX and I'm sold! Yes, I am dreaming, lmao.

If what is currently known in the grapevine turns out to be true, it's not going to happen, Navi 48, which is supposed to be the generational flagship, is supposed to target specifically the RTX 4080's performance.

-5% raster
+20% RT
-15% power

Major changes would only come with UDNA in the generation that comes next

 

[BlaezaLite]

If what is currently known in the grapevine turns out to be true, it's not going to happen, Navi 48, which is supposed to be the generational flagship, is supposed to target specifically the RTX 4080's performance.

-5% raster
+20% RT
-15% power

Major changes would only come with UDNA in the generation that comes next

4080 performance sounds very good to me.

 

[jarablue]

Using nvidia is not hard unless your mentally challenged. I have 0 issues getting the most out of my card with minimal effort. Just because someone says something, do your own research. It's trivial at the most. Buy a 4080 and be done with it. Or if you want a 7900xtx get that. Both are good cards. I just like nv. Really, it's not hard to use at all. Get whatever you want. I like dlss and dlaa as well as ray tracing. If you do not like those things, get a different card. It's easy really.

I get near 120fps for my LG C2s max refresh on max settings on the games I PLAY. Just get whatever makes you happy. And after 5 pages of comments, I would think you made up your mind by now.

 

[Dr. Dro]

As someone who made the jump from long using Radeon to Nvidia (7900 XT > 4080 super) (Windows).

I can say that Nvidia is in the stone age... I have to use MSI Afterburner, Nvidia Inspector and other third party software to overclock the card and change the settings.
If I want to use Frame Generation, the game must support it. I can't just turn it on from the menu like in Adrenaline, (and that's really nice for some old games!)
If I want to use DLSS, the game must support it. I can't just turn it on from the menu like in Adrenaline.

Nvidia only have one DLAA if the game supports it, and one stupid DLSS which is slightly better as a visual.
Yes, Nvidia is a bit more power efficient right now, but if I start to care about 2-5$/month - then I shouldn't buy a 4080 card to begin with...
Regarding drivers... If I want maximum performance for benchmarks, I need to check which Nvidia driver will give me the best and reinstall for the specific benchmark/game.
I don't want to talk about using a widescreen monitor and setting unsupported resolutions/scales for benchmarking

Oh yeah, if I do a bad clock and the driver crashes - the Nvidia driver picks up very quickly, no 30 sec. wait on a black screen like Radeon - so cute...
Regarding game driver support - maybe Nvidia is faster, but in most cases both depend on game developers.

So dear Nvidia fans - just stop. Using an Nvidia card may be even harder than Radeon.

And there we go back to the "the NVCP is ugly" argument, despite the fact there's a whole new app now. You want your driver to delay a crash because of your bad settings?

And I thought frame generation was bad? Make up your minds... Not that AFMF can be considered as anything beyond an ugly hack... then again I bestow the same quality to Nvidia's Freestyle (which AMD has no equivalent to).

 

[AVATARAT]

And there we go back to the "the NVCP is ugly" argument, despite the fact there's a whole new app now. You want your driver to delay a crash because of your bad settings?

And I thought frame generation was bad? Make up your minds... Not that AFMF can be considered as anything beyond an ugly hack... then again I bestow the same quality to Nvidia's Freestyle (which AMD has no equivalent to).

I will find a way if I don't know how to do the thing/change but yeah, NVCP is.. uncomfortable.
Look, I can take Lossless Scaling and do the same as AFMF, for a few $$ of course, but that's not the point.
About "hacks" what is the Nvidia Inspector, or MSI_util_v3 ?
Freestyle is another Nvidia gimmick and AMD can probably do it too. But probably some other day when both companies won't be looking at AI mainly

 

[Redwoodz]

I think reading is not your skill. Or asking the right question - when the point is not understood

I posted several times myself the windows 11 pro amd gpu driver screenshot. Do not annoy me or others with fake screenshot - when the topic was gnu linux. Linux is only the kernel - not the operating system. The other bits are from different "projects", sometimes from the gnu project. Most any book I had in my hand so far explained in very detail the difference. small hint: use a webbrowser and check out that page: https://kernel.org

edit: to make it very, very clear. kapone32 posted a windows 11 pro - amd software - amd gpu driver screenshot
I - was talking about bad software support in gnu linux in regards of current personally owned, or previous sold amd based hardware. Which included mainboards, graphic cards and processors.

edit: just correcting facts - If this goes on, a post below that - I'll use the ignore list function - so the conversation ends than on my side. Facts - vs - not bothering reading books about introduction about gnu linux // real life experience as long term user - vs fanboy

edit: hard facts about bad amd software for their graphic card

I do not bothering writing any guides for free on any website
It's a topic about the high idle consumption caused by high memory clocks for a msi radeon 6800 Z Trio in Windows and gnu gentoo linux. Both operating system had the same issue. With a fix. There is also a third party software available which goes the same route, which i found myself.

Basically you do not need to use google translate - Config file code and pictures should explain it very, very clear.
Feel free to use google translate https://www.computerbase.de/forum/t...00-z-trio-idle-verbrauch-reduzierung.2145581/

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