Extreme temperatures Razer Blade 16 2024

[quickfingerszaha]

Hi guys,

this is my first post here, but I am happy to see a lot of active supporting members.

I have just switched from a MSI GS66 Stealth to a Razer Blade 16 2024 RTX4080 and 14900HX four days ago.

Having thought that the MSI was hot, I have to say I am shocked to see almost immediate throttling on the CPU while gaming and temperatures in the 100 degrees constantly. The only way to keep the system somehow cooler is if I disable turbo, which neuters my computer and makes me wonder why I did the upgrade from MSI in the first place

Having said that, I have already read a lot of posts before posting this one, and here's a compilation of settings. Can you please tell me what else I should be changing? as I said, my priority here is not to get a burning laptop, performance wise I am ready to do a little trade-off (other than the disable turbo).

The screenshots were taken without any game running in the background, but in Turbo mode (Razer Synapse). The temps were recorded during the first minute of Cinebench 23 (they get worse later on )

Please give me an idea of what I should do before I go back with it. (repasting is something I don't want to do because I will lose the warranty)

 

[Vya Domus]

Please give me an idea of what I should do

Buy a desktop PC.

Jokes aside I don't know what you were expecting, this is a CPU dissipating 130W inside a laptop, the 14900 is hard to cool in a desktop PC with water cooling. I don't think there is any point in returning it, you're not gonna find another laptop that will magically keep this CPU cool.

 

[quickfingerszaha]

Buy a desktop PC.

Jokes aside I don't know what you were expecting, this is a CPU dissipating 130W inside a laptop, the 14900 is hard to cool in a desktop PC with water cooling. I don't think there is any point in returning it, you're not gonna find another laptop that will magically keep this CPU cool.

I have a desktop PC with a 9950X3D, but I travel a lot and I was hoping to somehow take the games with me as well (yes, I have a steam deck too).

So should I expect the temperatures to be in the 100's as a normal thing with this laptop?

 

[Vya Domus]

So should I expect the temperatures to be in the 100's as a normal thing with this laptop

Pretty much.

 

[ty_ger]

Swap out the thermal paste for PTM7950. That's the modification which made the most difference for me. Mine is a much earlier model with a different CPU, but the exact same behavior. Mine was constantly at 95 to 100c while gaming, down to 80 to 85c for a few weeks after repasting, and then back up to 95 to 100c. I tried repasting with different pastes and liquid metal. PTM7950 is the only solution which has lasted.

That being said, I don't know what sort of paste your laptop ships with. If yours comes from the factory already with PTM7950, then obviously disregard this recommendation. Otherwise, if it comes with traditional paste, PTM7950 has been shown over and over again to perform better and for a much longer duration.

Also, I have to caution that you shouldn't expect a miracle, because if it is thermal throttling like crazy now, there might not be enough thermal cooling to keep it from thermal throttling even with better paste. In other words, with PTM7950, you may see better performance, but still thermal throttling. It may get you closer to a solution, but not be the solution on its own.

(repasting is something I don't want to do because I will lose the warranty)

Why do you say that? It's illegal to void the warranty for repasting. As long as you don't physically damage something in the process, they cannot void your warranty.

So should I expect the temperatures to be in the 100's as a normal thing with this laptop?

I mean, kinda. That's what Razer expects. You can either try to make it better, or leave it alone with the comfort of knowing that this is what is considered normal and should last at least for the entire warranty period.

 

[unclewebb]

@quickfingerszaha

You are not the first person with a Razer Blade laptop that has complained about barely adequate cooling. If the CPU is reaching 87°C at only 40W then there is zero chance that you will ever be able to get maximum performance out of a 14900HX. If it is not too late, I would return your new laptop. If you cannot even replace the thermal paste without voiding the warranty then you do not have any other option other than to return it. It is not like you bought a cheap budget laptop.

When you pay for a premium laptop you should expect and demand better. The Lenovo Legion series with the same 14900HX have way better cooling compared to what Razer is using.

 

[_roman_]

Buy a desktop PC.

+1

That a razer notebook overheats is not a surprise to myself. Bad low quality notebook - Check some repair videos - if you do not believe me.

100°C is not normal for a notebook. Only cheap build quality has that

 

[eidairaman1]

@quickfingerszaha

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You are not the first person with a Razer Blade laptop that has complained about barely adequate cooling. If the CPU is reaching 87°C at only 40W then there is zero chance that you will ever be able to get maximum performance out of a 14900HX. If it is not too late, I would return your new laptop. If you cannot even replace the thermal paste without voiding the warranty then you do not have any other option other than to return it. It is not like you bought a cheap budget laptop.

When you pay for a premium laptop you should expect and demand better. The Lenovo Legion series with the same 14900HX have way better cooling compared to what Razer is using.

Unless if they are built like the Dell XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 which handled both a Northwood Extreme or Prescott and a Mobility Radeon 9800 (9700 Pro but with a R423 chip) without any thermal throttling, the mobiles of today will just do it. The only other solution is 1 of these cooling pads, let me find them...

Hi guys,

this is my first post here, but I am happy to see a lot of active supporting members.

I have just switched from a MSI GS66 Stealth to a Razer Blade 16 2024 RTX4080 and 14900HX four days ago.

Having thought that the MSI was hot, I have to say I am shocked to see almost immediate throttling on the CPU while gaming and temperatures in the 100 degrees constantly. The only way to keep the system somehow cooler is if I disable turbo, which neuters my computer and makes me wonder why I did the upgrade from MSI in the first place

Having said that, I have already read a lot of posts before posting this one, and here's a compilation of settings. Can you please tell me what else I should be changing? as I said, my priority here is not to get a burning laptop, performance wise I am ready to do a little trade-off (other than the disable turbo).

The screenshots were taken without any game running in the background, but in Turbo mode (Razer Synapse). The temps were recorded during the first minute of Cinebench 23 (they get worse later on )

Please give me an idea of what I should do before I go back with it. (repasting is something I don't want to do because I will lose the warranty)

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Good Luck

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Sorry to hear (but not surprised) that you're experiencing overheating issues with your Razer Blade. Honestly, if you'd went to the Razer reddit beforehand, you'd understand where the term "Spicy Pillow" came from, as it's full of Blade owners complaining about overheating and quick battery bloat... The fact of the matter is that Razer keeps trying to cram high power/high end CPUs and GPUs into these ultra-thin chassis that are ill-equipped to handle such components for purely aesthetic reasons, and then forced to skimp on cooling because there's only so much space in the chassis. They're basically guaranteeing overheating and bloated battery issues.

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

Get a Sager next time. I've taken several Razer laptops apart and repaired them, and have concluded that I hate them. Cooling in them is just bad. If you got it 4 days ago, I'd send it back.

Sager of similar spec

 

[eidairaman1]

Get a Sager next time. I've taken several Razer laptops apart and repaired them, and have concluded that I hate them. Cooling in them is just bad. If you got it 4 days ago, I'd send it back.

Sager of similar spec

Eurocom was another

Sorry to hear (but not surprised) that you're experiencing overheating issues with your Razer Blade. Honestly, if you'd went to the Razer reddit beforehand, you'd understand where the term "Spicy Pillow" came from, as it's full of Blade owners complaining about overheating and quick battery bloat... The fact of the matter is that Razer keeps trying to cram high power/high end CPUs and GPUs into these ultra-thin chassis that are ill-equipped to handle such components for purely aesthetic reasons, and then forced to skimp on cooling because there's only so much space in the chassis. They're basically guaranteeing overheating and bloated battery issues.

They all seem to be too thin today, build em like the XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 chassis design and cooling problems are non existent, Mobiles are a terrible investment for trying to game on today.

Here is the way the XPS Gen1/Inspiron 9100 is built and appears.

 

[quickfingerszaha]

Thanks a lot for the replies, guys. I'll actually throw a question to the store about voiding the warranty if I repaste, that can be an interesting topic to explore further.

I do have a dekstop, but having had the Noctua D15 for the past 5 years, I keep forgetting what the biggest enemies for small powerful computers are - both heat and vendor's greed.

I had been reading the threads for quite a while, but never actually thought the situation would be this dire. I live both in Norway and Sweden where the temperatures are pretty well below the average during this period of the year and also during summertime. I used to have heating and throttling in my MSI GS66 rtx3080 when I lived in Eastern Europe, so I thought shedding this dough on a laptop on top of relocating to the "North Pole" would do some good, at least.

I'll try tinkering with Throttlestop a bit more, in Star Wars Outlaws the temps are around 88, which (I can't believe I am saying this) are decent-ish.

On the other hand, I can use it for heating the apartment as well, will cut costs on the centralized electricity heating.

 

[eidairaman1]

Thanks a lot for the replies, guys. I'll actually throw a question to the store about voiding the warranty if I repaste, that can be an interesting topic to explore further.

I do have a dekstop, but having had the Noctua D15 for the past 5 years, I keep forgetting what the biggest enemies for small powerful computers are - both heat and vendor's greed.

I had been reading the threads for quite a while, but never actually thought the situation would be this dire. I live both in Norway and Sweden where the temperatures are pretty well below the average during this period of the year and also during summertime. I used to have heating and throttling in my MSI GS66 rtx3080 when I lived in Eastern Europe, so I thought shedding this dough on a laptop on top of relocating to the "North Pole" would do some good, at least.

I'll try tinkering with Throttlestop a bit more, in Star Wars Outlaws the temps are around 88, which (I can't believe I am saying this) are decent-ish.

On the other hand, I can use it for heating the apartment as well, will cut costs on the centralized electricity heating.

Many barely have any modularity today unlike in the mid and early 2000s

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Eurocom was another


They all seem to be too thin today, build em like the XPS Gen 1/Inspiron 9100 chassis design and cooling problems are non existent, Mobiles are a terrible investment for trying to game on today.

Here is the way the XPS Gen1/Inspiron 9100 is built and appears.

Yep, exactly! I would hate to invest in a gaming laptop today for MANY reasons, but chief among them is the ultra-thin aspect of many of them. Like, you can't have the portability of an ultra-thin AND high-end CPUs/GPUs. You either get one or the other. Personally, the chunkier a gaming laptop is, the better! Chunky things that weigh a ton with vents everywhere!

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

Eurocom was another

Can't go wrong with custom Clevos

 

[eidairaman1]

Yep, exactly! I would hate to invest in a gaming laptop today for MANY reasons, but chief among them is the ultra-thin aspect of many of them. Like, you can't have the portability of an ultra-thin AND high-end CPUs/GPUs. You either get one or the other. Personally, the chunkier a gaming laptop is, the better! Chunky things that weigh a ton with vents everywhere!

The mobile chips and gpus would thrive in the xps gen 1 style chassis if builders gave a damn.

 

[Hyderz]

my gaming laptop is coming up 4 years... i think i wont buy another one...

 

[PLAfiller]

@quickfingerszaha , you mentioned you travel a lot. I suppose probably with a train as well. I don't know if it will help, but there is a number of passive laptop coolers you might wanna check out if there is something worth your money there. I don't imagine lugging an active cooler on metro/train/buses etc. as a viable alternative.

Otherwise active laptop cooler on your desk will help if it's not bottom of the barrel stuff. You will shave off a few degrees, but that's it. Don't expect too much.