AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT Reportedly Features 220 W TDP, RDNA 4 Efficiency

[AleksandarK]

AMD's upcoming Radeon RX 8000 series GPUs based on RDNA 4 architecture are just around the corner, with rumors pointing to a CES unveiling event. Today, we are learning that the Radeon RX 8800 XT GPU will feature a 220 W TDP, compared to its Radeon RX 7800 XT predecessor with 263 W TDP, thanks to the Seasonic wattage calculator. While we expect to see better nodes used for making RNDA 4, the efficiency gains stem primarily from the improved microarchitectural design of the new RDNA generation. The RX 8800 XT will bring better performance while lowering power consumption by 16%. While no concrete official figures are known about RNDA 4 performance targets compared to RDNA, if AMD plans to maintain the competitive mid-range landscape with NVIDIA "Blackwell" and, as of today, Intel with Arc "Battlemage," team red must put out a good fight to remain competitive.

We reported on AMD Radeon RX 8800 XT entering mass production this month, with notable silicon design a departure from previous designs. The RX 8800 XT will reportedly utilize a monolithic chip dubbed "Navi 48," moving away from the chiplet-based approach seen in the current "Navi 31" and "Navi 32" GPUs. Perhaps most intriguing are claims about the card's ray tracing capabilities. Sources suggest the RX 8800 XT will match the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080/4080 SUPER in raster performance while having a remarkable 45% improvement over the current flagship RX 7900 XTX in ray tracing. However, these claims must be backed by independent testing first, as performance improvements depend on the specific case, like games optimized for either AMD or NVIDIA yield better results for the favorable graphics card.



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[Event Horizon]

Need competitive pricing. Otherwise this will rot on shelves.

 

[AnotherReader]

Given the rumoured specifications, 4080 performance is very unlikely. Going by the numbers in the latest GPU review, the 4080 is 42% faster than the 7800 XT at 1440p and 49% faster at 4K. That is too great a gap to be overcome by a 6.7% increase in Compute Units.

 

[the54thvoid]

All rumour, rumour, rumour.

But if it's as fast as a 4080 with RT to match, with low power draw, and priced well...

ah aha haha haa hhaa haaa... what am I saying? Such things just don't happen. If it meets that performance and power budget, I can't see it being reasonably priced (with reference to the old days.)

 

[Nordic]

If the rumors are true this should be very competitive in its price segment

 

[wNotyarD]

If somehow AMD delivers on all the rumours (4080-like performance, +45% RT performance over the 7900XTX and at the alleged power draw and $500-600 price), this card will be nothing short of a miracle.

 

[neatfeatguy]

If the 8800XT can deliver in that 4080, maybe even up to 4090 range of raster performance and also only drawing around 220W and of course being priced at $500 or less I'd be willing to dump my 3080Ti and move to AMD this coming round of GPUs.

I'm not interested in RT. I don't use DLSS nor frame generation crap. Only reason I stuck with Nvidia this past time around was I could find their GPUs for $200-300 cheaper (sometimes even more) than AMD cards during the crypto boom.

 

[sbacc]

The last 10 years, every time a new GPU arch from AMD launch we get those wild overhyped rumor about a crazy good product, just to get something ranging from just "okay" at worse to somewhat good at best, but the problem is even when it's the later we get (somewhat good), everyone is massively disappointed and the product is labelled as a complete failure.

I'll say let's temper expectations, we are only one month away to actually know the product. So maybe this time, we can judge it to its real value.

 

[mechtech]

“ Perhaps most intriguing are claims about the card's ray tracing capabilities. Sources suggest the RX 8800 XT will match the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080/4080 SUPER”

don’t have any games with ray tracing. Can I get a chip with RT cut out and save me xx% based on transistors %???

 

[GodisanAtheist]

All rumour, rumour, rumour.

But if it's as fast as a 4080 with RT to match, with low power draw, and priced well...

ah aha haha haa hhaa haaa... what am I saying? Such things just don't happen. If it meets that performance and power budget, I can't see it being reasonably priced (with reference to the old days.)

- Exactly.

If AMD had achieved this kind of feat, they would be releasing a whole stack of cards to absolutely clobber Nvidia, not just completely give up on everything above $600 price point.

 

[sbacc]

- Exactly.

If AMD had achieved this kind of feat, they would be releasing a whole stack of cards to absolutely clobber Nvidia, not just completely give up on everything above $600 price point.

Scaling up architecture are not something easy or Intel would have launch a whole stack today instead of only the 2 low end card we got...

 

[JustBenching]

If it's 45% faster in RT vs the 7900xtx, that makes it basically a 4080/4080S. Since the raster is also similar, then im calling it, 799$ MSRP.

 

[3valatzy]

- Exactly.

If AMD had achieved this kind of feat, they would be releasing a whole stack of cards to absolutely clobber Nvidia, not just completely give up on everything above $600 price point.

Scaling up architecture are not something easy or Intel would have launch a whole stack today instead of only the 2 low end card we got...

It is in fact very easy, but the consumers won't appreciate it. The chiplets are designed exactly for this, CrossFire is designed exactly for this.
Stack two Navi 31 on a single PCB and bingo, you will have a card much faster than RTX 4090.

 

[Hyderz]

Isn’t this the last rdna gpu from AMD? I think this 8800xt is a test product for AMD if it fares well with nvidias 4080/super in ray tracing department. AMD has decided to move onto UDNA.

 

[sbacc]

It is in fact very easy, but the consumers won't appreciate it. The chiplets are designed exactly for this, CrossFire is designed exactly for this.
Stack two Navi 31 on a single PCB and bingo, you will have a card much faster than RTX 4090.

Maybe I remembered wrong, but Crossfire wasn't a "it just worked" kind of technology. I still miss it though, being able to grab on the second hand market a 2nd card instead of having to buy into new tech when a new arch was unleashed...

 

[Random_User]

All rumour, rumour, rumour.

But if it's as fast as a 4080 with RT to match, with low power draw, and priced well...

ah aha haha haa hhaa haaa... what am I saying? Such things just don't happen. If it meets that performance and power budget, I can't see it being reasonably priced (with reference to the old days.)

So true! As soon as AMD will feel that they can extract the gains, they will do this in maximum possible way. There's not even doubts about this. Even in such dire times for RTG, they would gladly risk their public image, to extort buyers, as long as they are able to.

But personally, 4080 performance levels is great, and much to desire. But to be honest, I don't even see, heck, I would be enough with 7900XT/XTX performance. What it should have, though, is sane power consumption, and efficiency. AMD finally have to get involved, and finally sort their sh*t out, to make multimedia and multi-screen consumption, as it should have been half decade ago.

Oh, and make the prices sane as well. Because this time, AMD will have no second, or third chance. If with RDNA4 AMD won't cease the efforts to gouge people during the release/launch, no matter how good i will be, people will avoid it completely, and go nVidia route. Heck, they might even go Battlemage route, if it will give at least some signs of success.

 

[kapone32]

Maybe I remembered wrong, but Crossfire wasn't a "it just worked" kind of technology. I still miss it though, being able to grab on the second hand market a 2nd card instead of having to buy into new tech when a new arch was unleashed...

For Polaris it was

 

[3valatzy]

Maybe I remembered wrong, but Crossfire wasn't a "it just worked" kind of technology. I still miss it though, being able to grab on the second hand market a 2nd card instead of having to buy into new tech when a new arch was unleashed...

Maybe 15 years ago, but now there are faster interconnects, AI, several generations of experience, all of which can dramatically improve how the technology works. It's about a political decision to enable it.

 

[HD64G]

If that RDNA4 GPU gets even 90% of 4080 performance in raster @1440P on average and nuch better than 7900XTX performance in RT while being sold for ~$600 who in their right mind can have anything bad to say about that product? After all, AMD has done that in the past at least a few times recently (5700(XT), 6900XT, 6800 non-XT, 6700XT, 7800XT are/were great in vfm).

 

[Frick]

All rumour, rumour, rumour.

But if it's as fast as a 4080 with RT to match, with low power draw, and priced well...

ah aha haha haa hhaa haaa... what am I saying? Such things just don't happen. If it meets that performance and power budget, I can't see it being reasonably priced (with reference to the old days.)

They're dead and buried mate, you can't go back. What is reasonable or not can only be measured by what exists today.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

I will be honest, I hate the "at or better than 4080/7900xtx at 500 bucks" rumor, because if it doesnt match that, the trashing will continue to be epic.

Since AMD is always fighting an uphill with the gamers and media.

What I recall reading was that RDNA4 is a clean up of RDNA3 hardware bugs and then a big push in performance by RDNA5.

But looks like RDNA5 will be UDNA 1, so lets see how it goes.

Either way, they confirmed an event on Jan 6 and gaming was mentioned, so who knows.

Sorry for the size, not sure how to make it smaller.

 

[AnotherReader]

I will be honest, I hate the "at or better than 4080/7900xtx at 500 bucks" rumor, because if it doesnt match that, the trashing will continue to be epic.

Since they are always fighting uphill with the gamers and media.

I agree. This is how the hype train starts rolling and then the inevitable derailment leads to bashing of the actual product, even if it's undeserved. The Compute Unit count and rumoured clock speeds suggest performance in the ballpark of the 7900 XT, not the 4080, and certainly not the 7900 XTX which is 20 % faster than the 7900 XT at 4K.

 

[Daven]

- Exactly.

If AMD had achieved this kind of feat, they would be releasing a whole stack of cards to absolutely clobber Nvidia, not just completely give up on everything above $600 price point.

Expensive fab capacity. AI data center GPUs are getting it. Large gaming GPUs are not.

 

[Vayra86]

Maybe I remembered wrong, but Crossfire wasn't a "it just worked" kind of technology. I still miss it though, being able to grab on the second hand market a 2nd card instead of having to buy into new tech when a new arch was unleashed...

Some people can't let go of the past.

That said, AMD has options, but their silicon gamble with chiplets didn't pay off as it should, the performance vs die size advantage didn't work out as planned. And I think they're not in the mood to keep selling GPUs at cost.

If that RDNA4 GPU gets even 90% of 4080 performance in raster @1440P on average and nuch better than 7900XTX performance in RT while being sold for ~$600 who in their right mind can have anything bad to say about that product? After all, AMD has done that in the past at least a few times recently (5700(XT), 6900XT, 6800 non-XT, 6700XT, 7800XT are/were great in vfm).

If, but it won't. Pray tell where is the magic here to reduce power budget, price (ergo die size) AND cram more activity in there for RT. That sounds to me like a massive design win Nvidia will drool all over. If they have that, like others have said... there would be an entire stack of it and lots of fireworks. I mean we keep saying RDNA3 is all meh, but realistically, it performs admirably, if they double down on that they're better than Ada is now in every way, even power consumption.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

For Polaris it was

No it wasnt. Drivers didnt stop mattering just because polaris existed. By the time of polaris crossfire was a nearly dead technology.

Maybe 15 years ago, but now there are faster interconnects, AI, several generations of experience, all of which can dramatically improve how the technology works. It's about a political decision to enable it.

The problem with crossfire (and SLI) was never the interconnects or experience. It was, and always will be, driver support, which fell on AMD/nvidia and was an absolute royal pain to fix for the small marketshare they had. With DX11, the traditional methods of multi GPU became nearly impossible to implement.

DX12 has long supported multiGPU. It is on game developers now to enable and support it. Nothing "political" about it, game devs dont see the value for the niche base that wants it. It's not on AMD to enable that.