Choosing Prebuilt - Advice needed

[3valatzy]

What do you suggest for a 13 year old?
My budget is actually 1850 dhs for the PC. there is one more, but with an rx580 for 1850dhs. should I take that? or daseen? also daseen has a PC with i5 11400f and gtx 1660 super. i might take that instead. firstly because it is cheaper, and second, the cable management is horrible and the i5 11400f one has no glass panels.

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[jak_2456]

also daseen has a PC with i5 11400f and gtx 1660 super. i might take that instead. firstly because it is cheaper, and second, the cable management is horrible and the i5 11400f one has no glass panels.

I think that that's the best option so far.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

I'm not too fond of laptops; they have small screens, and if I buy peripherals, I would prefer a mini PC with a monitor. Gaming laptops with mediocre specs are costly. Considering my budget and the performance for the price, I prefer the mini PC.


I dont like to play on consoles, besides, I want a PC for other works as well, its not just gaming.

Anyways, isnt the system i sent better than the 6900hx?

If anyone can recommend a really budget-effective mini PC, or a gaming PC (preferably ITX) it would be great!
do keep in mind I'm choosing performance over aesthetics, and hope to find something cheap and effective.

So...the first four systems you've highlighted are not better. 10, 8, and 6 year old processors tied to a similarly aged low end (potentially used for mining) GPU is not better than a new system that absolutely will outperform the CPU power. Add on to that the convenience of newer generation PCI-e, and memory standards that are in production, and the stuff you are looking at is really a bad decision or a terrible one. Most of this is motivated by wanting to pay virtually nothing, given the current crazy cost of GPUs. The problem being that your provided options will likely be CPU bound, simply given the age of the hardware. Given you're looking at cards that are bad simply due to aging out...that's a feat.

My initial recommendation stands at this point. Buy a pre-used and recertified business unit, using something that is 10 series of Intel or 5000 series of AMD, or newer. Buy whatever GPU you can...understanding that the market is silly and anything that cheap has probably had a rough life of mining given its age and cost. Know that one owner 3060 cards are going for about 250-300 USD on ebay...and you are asking for a system whose entire budget is only $190 more than that...while having to purchase it rather than build it yourself.
The back of the envelope math is 190-30(OS)-40(Office)-50(PSU)-100(motherboard) = -30 USD to buy a processor, RAM, and storage.


If that's not a great answer...then your option is basically to build it yourself out of previous generation (12 series Intel or 5000 series AMD) low end components and a GPU that isn't going to be that far removed from the bottom of the barrel. This...is not a challenge that's going to offer you a win in the current GPU market. The only other thing I can recommend is Craig's List, Heatware, or similar. Buying an entire second hand system, that you can see demonstrated as working, might be easiest from another person local to you. It's a long shot...as some of the listings want 1000 USD for something worth 200 USD in parts...but with so little budget there's not a lot of options.



Before the discussion is had, why am I so opposed to a decade old processor and 4+ generation old GPU? Having used a Sandybridge-e system from 2011 to 2021 I know the foibles of a decade old processor. Certain games need new instruction sets (not a lot), a high specification processor from 5 years ago is at best the medium end of today, and the biggest issue is interconnection. Skylake was great with DDR3/4 memory options, and 4 whole cores with 8 threads is...not terrible, but you're looking to chain this to a GPU that if purchased separately would be more than 50% of your budget...which is going to result in disappointing performance at the low resolution and settings that this system will be able to actually push. IE, every system has limits, and this thing will be CPU bound on a very low end GPU. If you can even call them low end, because most AMD GPUs from that time saw some bitcoin mining time...while the Nvidia GPUs are so old that the first thing I'd recommend is repasting them. You could probably have this thing limp along and play some games...but the "gaming" in the name is less of a promise and more of a very very lofty goal that is not going to be realized.

Let me also express my shock when I see the price of a Playstation 4 as 1369 AED. A "dead" console is 431 AED from consuming your budget. You will not be getting a built system that's anywhere near as functional as a console for gaming for that kind of money...because this isn't 2019. Ever since the dawn of 2020 the possibility of a good and cheap PC for gaming died. This is why consoles still thrive today...because a PC just cannot touch them at the price points we are forced to deal with.

 

[jak_2456]

The only other thing I can recommend is Craig's List, Heatware, or similar. Buying an entire second hand system, that you can see demonstrated as working, might be easiest from another person local to you. It's a long shot...as some of the listings want 1000 USD for something worth 200 USD in parts...but with so little budget there's not a lot of options.

That's not a particularly good idea if you're new to PCs as there's a decent chance you'll get scammed if you don't know what you're looking for. See this video:

Before the discussion is had, why am I so opposed to a decade old processor and 4+ generation old GPU? Having used a Sandybridge-e system from 2011 to 2021 I know the foibles of a decade old processor. Certain games need new instruction sets (not a lot), a high specification processor from 5 years ago is at best the medium end of today, and the biggest issue is interconnection. Skylake was great with DDR3/4 memory options, and 4 whole cores with 8 threads is...not terrible, but you're looking to chain this to a GPU that if purchased separately would be more than 50% of your budget...which is going to result in disappointing performance at the low resolution and settings that this system will be able to actually push. IE, every system has limits, and this thing will be CPU bound on a very low end GPU. If you can even call them low end, because most AMD GPUs from that time saw some bitcoin mining time...while the Nvidia GPUs are so old that the first thing I'd recommend is repasting them. You could probably have this thing limp along and play some games...but the "gaming" in the name is less of a promise and more of a very very lofty goal that is not going to be realized.

Except some of the PCs are a lot newer than what you're talking about. OP mentioned a 11th gen PC earlier. While that's not exactly new, it's still got plenty of life left in it for the games that OP wants to play.

 

[aaizHERE]

The other problem is, if my pc runs into a problem, I'm not a technician. There are no PC technician shops nearby and it will take a long drive to reach there. Moreover, PC fix shops charge a very high price for issue fixes here. The reviews for Daseen say its alright, but the other problem here is that space, issues, and the fact that I'm a goner if anything wrong happens to my PC, considering the price. I think I should go for the mini, learn about pcs for 2 years or so, and then, once I'm certain I can take care of a PC, I might buy one. How's that?
also, if I do have to buy a mini PC, I'm still asking everyone to send recommendations (in 1850 dhs)

So...the first four systems you've highlighted are not better. 10, 8, and 6 year old processors tied to a similarly aged low end (potentially used for mining) GPU is not better than a new system that absolutely will outperform the CPU power. Add on to that the convenience of newer generation PCI-e, and memory standards that are in production, and the stuff you are looking at is really a bad decision or a terrible one. Most of this is motivated by wanting to pay virtually nothing, given the current crazy cost of GPUs. The problem being that your provided options will likely be CPU bound, simply given the age of the hardware. Given you're looking at cards that are bad simply due to aging out...that's a feat.

My initial recommendation stands at this point. Buy a pre-used and recertified business unit, using something that is 10 series of Intel or 5000 series of AMD, or newer. Buy whatever GPU you can...understanding that the market is silly and anything that cheap has probably had a rough life of mining given its age and cost. Know that one owner 3060 cards are going for about 250-300 USD on ebay...and you are asking for a system whose entire budget is only $190 more than that...while having to purchase it rather than build it yourself.
The back of the envelope math is 190-30(OS)-40(Office)-50(PSU)-100(motherboard) = -30 USD to buy a processor, RAM, and storage.


If that's not a great answer...then your option is basically to build it yourself out of previous generation (12 series Intel or 5000 series AMD) low end components and a GPU that isn't going to be that far removed from the bottom of the barrel. This...is not a challenge that's going to offer you a win in the current GPU market. The only other thing I can recommend is Craig's List, Heatware, or similar. Buying an entire second hand system, that you can see demonstrated as working, might be easiest from another person local to you. It's a long shot...as some of the listings want 1000 USD for something worth 200 USD in parts...but with so little budget there's not a lot of options.



Before the discussion is had, why am I so opposed to a decade old processor and 4+ generation old GPU? Having used a Sandybridge-e system from 2011 to 2021 I know the foibles of a decade old processor. Certain games need new instruction sets (not a lot), a high specification processor from 5 years ago is at best the medium end of today, and the biggest issue is interconnection. Skylake was great with DDR3/4 memory options, and 4 whole cores with 8 threads is...not terrible, but you're looking to chain this to a GPU that if purchased separately would be more than 50% of your budget...which is going to result in disappointing performance at the low resolution and settings that this system will be able to actually push. IE, every system has limits, and this thing will be CPU bound on a very low end GPU. If you can even call them low end, because most AMD GPUs from that time saw some bitcoin mining time...while the Nvidia GPUs are so old that the first thing I'd recommend is repasting them. You could probably have this thing limp along and play some games...but the "gaming" in the name is less of a promise and more of a very very lofty goal that is not going to be realized.

Let me also express my shock when I see the price of a Playstation 4 as 1369 AED. A "dead" console is 431 AED from consuming your budget. You will not be getting a built system that's anywhere near as functional as a console for gaming for that kind of money...because this isn't 2019. Ever since the dawn of 2020 the possibility of a good and cheap PC for gaming died. This is why consoles still thrive today...because a PC just cannot touch them at the price points we are forced to deal with.

I can't build my own PC yet, and I also don't know how to modify a Dell Optiplex. I don't trust eBay either, which adds to the challenges I'm facing. The best option for me is Amazon, and I’m trying to remain positive about it. I can consider prebuilt systems, preferably ITX ones since I have limited space. I also find mini PCs to be appealing because they are small and reliable, and some of them offer good performance. I'm looking for powerful and budget-friendly options, and I need assistance with my search.

 

[jak_2456]

The other problem is, if my pc runs into a problem, I'm not a technician. There are no PC technician shops nearby and it will take a long drive to reach there. Moreover, PC fix shops charge a very high price for issue fixes here. The reviews for Daseen say its alright, but the other problem here is that space, issues, and the fact that I'm a goner if anything wrong happens to my PC, considering the price. I think I should go for the mini, learn about pcs for 2 years or so, and then, once I'm certain I can take care of a PC, I might buy one. How's that?
also, if I do have to buy a mini PC, I'm still asking everyone to send recommendations (in 1850 dhs)


I can't build my own PC yet, and I also don't know how to modify a Dell Optiplex. I don't trust eBay either, which adds to the challenges I'm facing. The best option for me is Amazon, and I’m trying to remain positive about it. I can consider prebuilt systems, preferably ITX ones since I have limited space. I also find mini PCs to be appealing because they are small and reliable, and some of them offer good performance. I'm looking for powerful and budget-friendly options, and I need assistance with my search.

Here's my advice. Buy a mini PC like the ones @lilhasselhoffer mentioned earlier as your main computer if you really like the idea, and find a really cheap (or free) desktop as your learning tool. I learned a lot of my knowledge on working with PCs with an old eMachines desktop from 2003 that I rescued from the trash. That computer was not at all what I'd call usable for modern tasks, but it gave me a lot of foundational knowledge on the basic ins and outs of a computer. While I would not advise you to find a computer as old as that one since so much has changed over the past 20+ years in computing, I encourage you to set aside some funds to buy (or find like in my case, check computer recycling centers) a very cheap PC that you wouldn't really feel that bad about if you killed it. I don't think the mini PC is going to teach you that much about computing, but messing around with an old and cheap desktop will at least make you more comfortable with working on a PC. Again, find something cheap enough that it wouldn't be that bad if you killed it. If you want to get comfortable with working with computers, oftentimes the way to do it is to do what I've described. If you choose to do that, avoid laptops; they are much more difficult to work with for numerous reasons.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

That's not a particularly good idea if you're new to PCs as there's a decent chance you'll get scammed if you don't know what you're looking for. See this video:

Except some of the PCs are a lot newer than what you're talking about. OP mentioned a 11th gen PC earlier. While that's not exactly new, it's still got plenty of life left in it for the games that OP wants to play.

The other problem is, if my pc runs into a problem, I'm not a technician. There are no PC technician shops nearby and it will take a long drive to reach there. Moreover, PC fix shops charge a very high price for issue fixes here. The reviews for Daseen say its alright, but the other problem here is that space, issues, and the fact that I'm a goner if anything wrong happens to my PC, considering the price. I think I should go for the mini, learn about pcs for 2 years or so, and then, once I'm certain I can take care of a PC, I might buy one. How's that?
also, if I do have to buy a mini PC, I'm still asking everyone to send recommendations (in 1850 dhs)


I can't build my own PC yet, and I also don't know how to modify a Dell Optiplex. I don't trust eBay either, which adds to the challenges I'm facing. The best option for me is Amazon, and I’m trying to remain positive about it. I can consider prebuilt systems, preferably ITX ones since I have limited space. I also find mini PCs to be appealing because they are small and reliable, and some of them offer good performance. I'm looking for powerful and budget-friendly options, and I need assistance with my search.

1) See it demonstrated is simple. Ask for them to install any one of a few benchmarking tools, and run something simple. Check against results on the internet to make sure it's in the right ballpark, then meet up at a library or similar where you can have them power the thing on and demonstrate the functionality. The video about scamming is basically trusting people and how with a lot of effort they can lie. Buying on Amazon is literally no better.

2) There are plenty of newer PCs. The budget is usually the sticking point, and I highlighted one. I then said to get a refurb and install a new GPU...which is the best option for literally anybody who can turn a screwdriver.

3) Building a PC isn't hard...but I understand the issue. Let me start with stating that usually the build fee is around $100 so that whomever made it makes a profit. Your mileage on that exact number may vary. That said, $400 for the hardware to a computer today is a really awful number when a quarter of that also needs to cover an OS and Office Suite. $300 buys a moderate 1080p video card nowadays...so you can spend a ton of effort to try and find all of the sweet spots for cost...and you're still going to be in a bad place. This is why people build their own...

4) I recommended everything with a proper amount of review because we are about to end the 4000 series GPUs, introduce Battlemage, get the 8800, and Intel is officially competing with AMD just slightly out of this pricing bracket, so you are looking for 1-2 generation old stuff as the absolute maximum you could purchase decently new.

5) Did you miss the bit about the mining and 580/590 cards? I ask because the "lying" about this, or cheating, or whatever you want to call it is not new or special. It is also not a lie. You sell things as-is, and there's no guarantee or warranty unless explicitly stated. Heck, buying from Amazon isn't even a guarantee, when the sellers have no explicit warranty. This is why people are generally recommended to build their own...because it's not like a 5+ year old card with no history is going to have any warranty honored against it.

6) Final point, the modifications required to add a new GPU are trivial, assuming you buy a low end card (Higher end might require multiple connectors or one of the new high power ones). Boot PC, run DDU (video driver cleaner, available on this website), power down system, open case, identify existing GPU, or open PCI-e x16 slot, remove panels from back-plane of PC so the bits of the GPU will be visible, slot GPU into the PCI-e slot (push down gently until connector snaps retention bracket into place), connect power (either x6, x8, or x6 to SATA connector), close case, restart computer, install new GPU driver package. I've had people do this over the phone with me, and the largest time sink is the driver cleaner. Please, don't let this be an obstacle to getting what you want. Likewise, don't pay the premium "gaming" price tag. Getting worse hardware, for a single word being attached to the product description, is something that is morally reprehensible.

 

[Speedyblupi]

What do you suggest for a 13 year old?
My budget is actually 1850 dhs for the PC. there is one more, but with an rx580 for 1850dhs. should I take that? or daseen? also daseen has a PC with i5 11400f and gtx 1660 super. i might take that instead. firstly because it is cheaper, and second, the cable management is horrible and the i5 11400f one has no glass panels.

If you're going to be using a 100Hz monitor, then the i5-11400F should be good enough. An i5-12400F would be able to run Fortnite at 144fps+ consistently if your GPU is good enough, while an i5-11400F will often bottleneck you to less than 144fps during fights, but the extra fps potential wouldn't matter much if your monitor can't display it. An i5-11400F can at least do 100fps conistently, and it's still much faster than an i5-9400F or i7-6700. Valorant is very well-optimised and shouldn't be a problem for any of these computers to run at high frame rates.
The K6 Ryzen 7840HS miniPC I mentioned earlier could do about 100fps in Fortnite, but it might not be very consistent and you would need to use low graphics settings, possibly with upscaling, while an 11400F + GTX 1660 Super can handle this on high graphics settings.
If you got a 144Hz or 165Hz monitor though, I think it would be worth paying a bit extra to get that i5-12400F so you can max out your monitor's potential.

In short, I agree with @jak_2456 , unless you don't care about graphics quality, in which case a miniPC might be better.

 

[aaizHERE]

Im thinking to still buy the same one i was talking about. the MINISFORUM um773 lite. just check it out, can you?

If you're going to be using a 100Hz monitor, then the i5-11400F should be good enough. An i5-12400F would be able to run Fortnite at 144fps+ consistently if your GPU is good enough, while an i5-11400F will often bottleneck you to less than 144fps during fights, but the extra fps potential wouldn't matter much if your monitor can't display it. An i5-11400F can at least do 100fps conistently, and it's still much faster than an i5-9400F or i7-6700. Valorant is very well-optimised and shouldn't be a problem for any of these computers to run at high frame rates.
The K6 Ryzen 7840HS miniPC I mentioned earlier could do about 100fps in Fortnite, but it might not be very consistent and you would need to use low graphics settings, possibly with upscaling, while an 11400F + GTX 1660 Super can handle this on high graphics settings.
If you got a 144Hz monitor though, I think it would be worth paying a bit extra to get that i5-12400F so you can max out your monitor's potential.

In short, I agree with @jak_2456 , unless you don't care about graphics quality, in which case a miniPC might be better.

isnt the minisforum um773 lite mini pc better than that? (the mini pc you have mentioned)

 

[jak_2456]

Im thinking to still buy the same one i was talking about. the MINISFORUM um773 lite. just check it out, can you?

That one seems pretty good, assuming it fits your budget. The 680M graphics should be able to handle some basic gaming nicely.

 

[Speedyblupi]

Im thinking to still buy the same one i was talking about. the MINISFORUM um773 lite. just check it out, can you?

That mini PC has a Ryzen 7735HS, with Radeon 680M graphics (same as 6900HX), which is slightly slower than the 7840HS's 780M in the GMKTec K6.
But if you don't trust Aliexpress and can't find a cheaper mini PC with 7840HS anywhere else, and don't mind using low graphics settings or "FSR" upscaling in Fortnite to get 100fps, then the UM773 Lite MiniPC is a good option.
If you buy from Aliexpress you might have to pay import VAT, which is apparently 5% in Dubai, on top of the listed price, so the actual price of the GMKTec K6 would probably be 5% more than the listing says, but it's still competitive with the UM773 because its base price is similar and it has a better processor.

 

[aaizHERE]

okay, so the MINISFORUM UMM773 LITE mini pc is go?

That mini PC has a Ryzen 7735HS, with Radeon 680M graphics (same as 6900HX), which is slightly slower than the 7840HS's 780M in the GMKTec K6.
But if you don't trust Aliexpress and can't find a cheaper mini PC with 7840HS anywhere else, and don't mind using low graphics settings or "FSR" upscaling in Fortnite to get 100fps, then the UM773 Lite MiniPC is a good option.
If you buy from Aliexpress you might have to pay import VAT, which is apparently 5% in Dubai, on top of the listed price, so the actual price of the GMKTec K6 would probably be 5% more than the listing says, but it's still competitive with the UM773 because its base price is similar and it has a better processor.

i don't mind, how to do FSR UPSCALING though?

 

[Speedyblupi]

a quarter of that also needs to cover an OS and Office Suite

You can buy windows keys for about $5, or just use Windows without activating it (there will be an "activate windows" watermark and some windows customisation is disabled, but it works), or even use Linux.

okay, so the MINISFORUM UMM773 LITE mini pc is go?


i don't mind, how to do FSR UPSCALING though?

I thought FSR was an option in Fortnite, but apparently not. But you can enable TSR or Intel XeSS, which are similar; or you can set Fortnite to a lower game resolution and enable Radeon Super Resolution in Radeon driver settings. All of these technologies do the same thing: they render the game at lower resolution, and then use an algorithm to stretch the image and try to regenerate lost detail. Upscaling looks a bit worse than native/normal rendering, but it's normally ok for a budget PC.

 

[jak_2456]

okay, so the MINISFORUM UMM773 LITE mini pc is go?

If it fits your budget, then I'd say it's a good choice. I'd pair it with the LG monitor that you mentioned earlier. Do you have a keyboard and mouse?

 

[aaizHERE]

yeah.

I do. also, its sure that's the perfect option right? also should I take 500 gb or 1 tb SSD? 100 dhs difference

 

[jak_2456]

yeah.

I do. also, its sure that's the perfect option right? also should I take 500 gb or 1 tb SSD? 100 dhs difference

The monitor is the best of the bunch that you've provided. It's an appropriate resolution, a good refresh rate, a good panel type, and it comes from a very reputable manufacturer. Regarding storage, think about what games you like to play and how many you want to keep on the drive at once. If you're unsure, the 1 TB drive will do; however, go for 500 GB if the games you want to play are not that large and/or you're OK with uninstalling and redownloading games.

 

[aaizHERE]

im playing fortnite,valorant and rocket league. But for future proof should I get 1 tb?

 

[jak_2456]

im playing fortnite,valorant and rocket league. But for future proof should I get 1 tb?

If you don't mind spending the extra money, then it's not a bad idea.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

You can buy windows keys for about $5, or just use Windows without activating it (there will be an "activate windows" watermark and some windows customisation is disabled, but it works), or even use Linux.


I thought FSR was an option in Fortnite, but apparently not. But you can enable TSR or Intel XeSS, which are similar; or you can set Fortnite to a lower game resolution and enable Radeon Super Resolution in Radeon driver settings. All of these technologies do the same thing: they render the game at lower resolution, and then use an algorithm to stretch the image and try to regenerate lost detail. Upscaling looks a bit worse than native/normal rendering, but it's normally ok for a budget PC.

I would suggest that you read through the rules on this forum, and try to comply with them. Regarding parts of this, the quoted figures I provided were matching those prices that appear as advertisements on this website....and none are $5. Regarding your suggestion to "just use it unactivated..." well, the argument there is that piracy is not something supported on this forum. Using stuff, without paying for it, is a form of piracy. No moral judgement, but that's a thing that is not supposed to be said.


On the other side...do note that all of this recommendation is simply based upon pricing and my experience. I've owned units like the ones I quoted...haven't had anything newer than that. It's a recommendation based upon using them as a media hub basically...so do take the appropriate grain of salt. Gaming is...and I will say this again, much better on a console at this price point. I say this with confidence because at the start of the Pandemic I built some pretty decent APU based computers that just barely were able to game similar to a console...and the price the equivalent parts now commands is way higher than a PS5 is today. That is a just silly, but these are the times we live in.

Final bit...telling someone who can't build their own computer to use Linux. There are a lot of very friendly distros out there now...but none so friendly that I'd have somebody who cannot physically build a computer try and run it with either Wine or even Steam taking care of the windows based stuff. I'm...kind of frustrated to see you provide critique of suggestions when your retort is either software piracy or having someone who somehow understands Linux but cannot build a PC. It's...baffling. My only conjecture is that you haven't really thought out the position, and you are talking to people as though they had a skill level that matches what you need rather than what they are likely to possess.


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Trawling through my e-mails, I'm seeing a "gaming" PC that's on sale right now. It's a 14th generation i7-14700f, a 4060, 32 GB of RAM, and a single 1TB drive. That's probably about good for the 1080p gaming experience...and it's on sale for $999.99 after a $300 rebate. If that's what a good 1080p system looks like, and costs with a sale, then a budget of significantly less than half of that discounted price isn't exactly going to be great now, is it?

Again, this is why I pushed the console gaming so hard. It's not cool to say that, because PC gaming should include everyone, but sometimes when you've not got the funds you can still have fun with a console. The tacked-on requirement to do more than that seems like a way to rationalize the cost...but at that budget level you're just getting raked over the coals with buying "gaming" anything. It's now standard to charge more for that, like "premium" seats in a theater or concert venue.
-Edit end-

 

[Speedyblupi]

I would suggest that you read through the rules on this forum, and try to comply with them. Regarding parts of this, the quoted figures I provided were matching those prices that appear as advertisements on this website....and none are $5. Regarding your suggestion to "just use it unactivated..." well, the argument there is that piracy is not something supported on this forum. Using stuff, without paying for it, is a form of piracy. No moral judgement, but that's a thing that is not supposed to be said.

I am not breaking any rules. Key reselling is legal, and using an unactivated copy of Windows isn't piracy if Microsoft lets you do it through the legitimate installer, which they provide through their website. Illegally downloading cracked copies of Windows is an entirely different thing, and I don't advocate for it.

Final bit...telling someone who can't build their own computer to use Linux. There are a lot of very friendly distros out there now...but none so friendly that I'd have somebody who cannot physically build a computer try and run it with either Wine or even Steam taking care of the windows based stuff. I'm...kind of frustrated to see you provide critique of suggestions when your retort is either software piracy or having someone who somehow understands Linux but cannot build a PC. It's...baffling.

I said that they could do it, not that I thought it was a good idea for their specific use case. Maybe Linux could meet @aaizHERE's requirements, maybe it couldn't; I don't know, I only suggested it as a possibility. You implied that they had to pay for Windows, when that is not true, because free operating systems exist.
SteamOS is a Linux-based operating system, which is becoming very popular for casual gamers, mainly thanks to the Steam Deck.

I'm seeing a "gaming" PC that's on sale right now. It's a 14th generation i7-14700f, a 4060, 32 GB of RAM, and a single 1TB drive. That's probably about good for the 1080p gaming experience

It's a configuration that doesn't make sense for gaming, and isn't relevant to someone with an 1,800 AED budget. Games don't need 20 cores, you could choose a much cheaper CPU with higher per-core performance like a Ryzen 5 9600X or i5-14600KF and get higher fps in games; though the PC would still cost a lot more than 1,800 AED.

 

[aaizHERE]

I would suggest that you read through the rules on this forum, and try to comply with them. Regarding parts of this, the quoted figures I provided were matching those prices that appear as advertisements on this website....and none are $5. Regarding your suggestion to "just use it unactivated..." well, the argument there is that piracy is not something supported on this forum. Using stuff, without paying for it, is a form of piracy. No moral judgement, but that's a thing that is not supposed to be said.


On the other side...do note that all of this recommendation is simply based upon pricing and my experience. I've owned units like the ones I quoted...haven't had anything newer than that. It's a recommendation based upon using them as a media hub basically...so do take the appropriate grain of salt. Gaming is...and I will say this again, much better on a console at this price point. I say this with confidence because at the start of the Pandemic I built some pretty decent APU based computers that just barely were able to game similar to a console...and the price the equivalent parts now commands is way higher than a PS5 is today. That is a just silly, but these are the times we live in.

Final bit...telling someone who can't build their own computer to use Linux. There are a lot of very friendly distros out there now...but none so friendly that I'd have somebody who cannot physically build a computer try and run it with either Wine or even Steam taking care of the windows based stuff. I'm...kind of frustrated to see you provide critique of suggestions when your retort is either software piracy or having someone who somehow understands Linux but cannot build a PC. It's...baffling. My only conjecture is that you haven't really thought out the position, and you are talking to people as though they had a skill level that matches what you need rather than what they are likely to possess.

Hey,is the um773 lite good though? like can I use it?

 

[jak_2456]

Hey,is the um773 lite good though? like can I use it?

ShortCircuit tested it:

 

[aaizHERE]

i know, many people did, and they say its good, so its a go right? like no regrets rather than swapping for something cheaper and better....

 

[Speedyblupi]

i know, many people did, and they say its good, so its a go right? like no regrets rather than swapping for something cheaper and better....

If you're worried about that, it might be worth comparing reviews of the UM773 to reviews of the GMKTec K6 which I recommended as I think it's slightly better value due to the more powerful processor. IMO they're both good options though.

 

[aaizHERE]

the LG monitor went out of stock. i got a new asus option:

https://www.amazon.ae/gp/product/B0C66CFQRV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2KKU8J8O8784X&th=1