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Day 1 is actually a pretty good chance if you can make it to a physical store. They seem to usually get good stock right at release but it quickly turns into a trickle.
If your friend is trying online.. well..lol good luck. I think OP has a store they can go to and have a good chance at.

The lines for the 4090 were ridiculous with people camping out 48 hours prior here in California.
 

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New 4090s are going for a minimum of $2500 to $3500. Sell your used 4090s while they have equity before the market correction next month when Blackwell drops. You can use the GeForce ultimate $10 trail in the interem to mitigate the pain of integrated graphics/ in between low end dedicated gpu. If you are planning to upgrade to Blackwell you can used funds to mitigate impact of upgrade out of pocket expenditure. :rockout:
Am I going crazy? They're going for like 1700-2000$ usd. Is this CAD?
 

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Day 1 is actually a pretty good chance if you can make it to a physical store. They seem to usually get good stock right at release but it quickly turns into a trickle.
If your friend is trying online.. well..lol good luck. I think OP has a store they can go to and have a good chance at.

my irl buddy is doing it online, mindfactory in germany is probably his only chance
 
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Am I going crazy? They're going for like 1700-2000$ usd. Is this CAD?
usd. I put for sale for $1750 at night before going to bed. It was sold status by morning 6am. I was like crap did I make a mistake but then said ef it. Starting another Job so will have no time to play anyway.
 
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usd. I put for sale for $1750 at night before going to bed. It was sold status by morning 6am. I was like crap did I make a mistake but then said ef it. Starting another Job so will have no time to play anyway.
What the heck they are going for like 1750 brand new
 
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What the heck they are going for like 1750 brand new
Were... but now are going $2500 to $3500. Nvidia is in a great position. This exactly what they want if they want to introduce Blackwell at higher prices. $ $1999 to $2500 for a 5090 will be cheaper than the 4090s current market conditions.
 
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4090s are actually selling for $1,700 - $2,100


It doesn't matter if people list their 4090 for $2,500 - $3,500. No one is actually paying that much, which makes sense given you can just buy a professional class card at that price point with 48GB of VRAM.

So yeah, let's assume you sell your card for $1,800 (the average for used cards). eBay charges you 248 bucks in fees plus another $60 in shipping cost (you can go lower uninsured if you are foolish and wish to risk loosing all your money).

That leaves you with $1,492, which is less than what you'll pay to buy the card. So you sold your card, lost some money, and now you don't have a video card and are likely going to have to pay scalper pricing to get a 5090.

Seems like a net negative to me but then again I actually use my 4090 for work. I suspect people who can do this and go months without a 4090 really don't need that 5090 either.

Next month when 4090 owners will upgrade to the 5090 you'll be lucky to get 70% but I hear you. The 4080s and lower will get slaughtered in second hand market due to competition in the midrange in my outlook.

I don't see the 4090 dropping 30% off it's $1,600 MSRP. That would place it around $1,120 USD. That's possibly around or below 5080 pricing and with how cut down the 5080 is, the 4090 may well still be faster. Rumors have the 5080 with only 16GB of VRAM as well, which will kill it's appeal to the AI market (which is huge).

We may well be looking at a 2000 series scenario again where the 2080 was slower and had less VRAM than the 1080 Ti at a similar price.

Same thing happened with 9800x3d and I bought it one day one like a boss by reserving mine at 7am and walking in after work. If I can't purchase it it's not the end of the world. Although my reflexes haven't let me down yet.

Update one the Noctua Seasonic availability. FYI.

Add the cost of gas money and wasted time waiting in line to the above calculations as well. I would never do this for a video card that's only going to be used for gaming but then again I could never justify that kind of price for gaming alone either. No game is worth the $2,000+ the 5090 is going to cost, period.

What the heck they are going for like 1750 brand new

Yeah, it's not a good price. Plus you have to be extra careful with these large cards, cracking of the PCB is much more common near the pins because people didn't properly support them. It's not always obvious either. The internal layers of the PCB could be damaged and cause a whole host of issues when you are outside your return period. I'm typically an advocate for purchasing used GPUs but not when there's the possibility of a product having non-visible damage you can't test for.
 
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4090s are actually selling for $1,700 - $2,100


It doesn't matter if people list their 4090 for $2,500 - $3,500. No one is actually paying that much, which makes sense given you can just buy a professional class card at that price point with 48GB of VRAM.

So yeah, let's assume you sell your card for $1,800 (the average for used cards). eBay charges you 248 bucks in fees plus another $60 in shipping cost (you can go lower uninsured if you are foolish and wish to risk loosing all your money).

That leaves you with $1,492, which is less than what you'll pay to buy the card. So you sold your card, lost some money, and now you don't have a video card and are likely going to have to pay scalper pricing to get a 5090.

Seems like a net negative to me but then again I actually use my 4090 for work. I suspect people who can do this and go months without a 4090 really don't need that 5090 either.



I don't see the 4090 dropping 30% off it's $1,600 MSRP. That would place it around $1,120 USD. That's possibly around or below 5080 pricing and with how cut down the 5080 is, the 4090 may well still be faster. Rumors have the 5080 with only 16GB of VRAM as well, which will kill it's appeal to the AI market (which is huge).

We may well be looking at a 2000 series scenario again where the 2080 was slower and had less VRAM than the 1080 Ti at a similar price.



Add the cost of gas money and wasted time waiting in line to the above calculations as well. I would never do this for a video card that's only going to be used for gaming but then again I could never justify that kind of price for gaming alone either. No game is worth the $2,000+ the 5090 is going to cost, period.



Yeah, it's not a good price. Plus you have to be extra careful with these large cards, cracking of the PCB is much more common near the pins because people didn't properly support them. It's not always obvious either. The internal layers of the PCB could be damaged and cause a whole host of issues when you are outside your return period. I'm typically an advocate for purchasing used GPUs but not when there's the possibility of a product having non-visible damage you can't test for.
They are MUCH cheaper in brick&mortar stores apparently
 
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Were... but now are going $2500 to $3500. Nvidia is in a great position. This exactly what they want if they want to introduce Blackwell at higher prices. $ $1999 to $2500 for a 5090 will be cheaper than the 4090s current market conditions.

That's only because they stopped manufacturing Ada cards and demand continues high over the season. Blackwell is expected to launch in mid-January. I'm personally aiming to purchase mine as early as possible, hopefully I will have it on-hand before March.
 
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4090s are actually selling for $1,700 - $2,100


It doesn't matter if people list their 4090 for $2,500 - $3,500. No one is actually paying that much, which makes sense given you can just buy a professional class card at that price point with 48GB of VRAM.

So yeah, let's assume you sell your card for $1,800 (the average for used cards). eBay charges you 248 bucks in fees plus another $60 in shipping cost (you can go lower uninsured if you are foolish and wish to risk loosing all your money).

That leaves you with $1,492, which is less than what you'll pay to buy the card. So you sold your card, lost some money, and now you don't have a video card and are likely going to have to pay scalper pricing to get a 5090.

Seems like a net negative to me but then again I actually use my 4090 for work. I suspect people who can do this and go months without a 4090 really don't need that 5090 either.



I don't see the 4090 dropping 30% off it's $1,600 MSRP. That would place it around $1,120 USD. That's possibly around or below 5080 pricing and with how cut down the 5080 is, the 4090 may well still be faster. Rumors have the 5080 with only 16GB of VRAM as well, which will kill it's appeal to the AI market (which is huge).

We may well be looking at a 2000 series scenario again where the 2080 was slower and had less VRAM than the 1080 Ti at a similar price.



Add the cost of gas money and wasted time waiting in line to the above calculations as well. I would never do this for a video card that's only going to be used for gaming but then again I could never justify that kind of price for gaming alone either. No game is worth the $2,000+ the 5090 is going to cost, period.



Yeah, it's not a good price. Plus you have to be extra careful with these large cards, cracking of the PCB is much more common near the pins because people didn't properly support them. It's not always obvious either. The internal layers of the PCB could be damaged and cause a whole host of issues when you are outside your return period. I'm typically an advocate for purchasing used GPUs but not when there's the possibility of a product having non-visible damage you can't test for.
The prices at $2500 got thier because the low bearing fruit of stock at lower prices all got bought out. The $2000+ price for gaming is subjective and the delta out of pocket is now $1500 less. Don't worry I'll tell you what your not missing. People spend $3500 on Sony TVs just to watch movies meanwhile there is so much competition in that space for subjectively slightly better image quality yet people buy those TVs. Enthusiast level gaming unfortunately doesn't have this level of competition. I guess one would be sour if you had to compete with enthusiasts for allocation.
 
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I adopt a moral code: no more than 70% of what I initially paid.
I always sell for less than I paid
And I sell for whatever I can. Was in sitch rough enough to sell my only GPU 3 years ago during that mining craze (GTX 1070, sold for $500, 3 or 4 times the price I bought it for but lower than the market average at the time; also bought it used, not new). Barely survived.

Of course it's bad manners to rip your buyers off if you're not in danger if you sell it for cheap. But I think desperate people like me from back then shouldn't be judged for that.
 
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And I sell for whatever I can. Was in sitch rough enough to sell my only GPU 3 years ago during that mining craze (GTX 1070, sold for $500, 3 or 4 times the price I bought it for but lower than the market average at the time; also bought it used, not new). Barely survived.

Of course it's bad manners to rip your buyers off if you're not in danger if you sell it for cheap. But I think desperate people like me from back then shouldn't be judged for that.

It's all about a fair deal my friend. If it's a fair deal to me, and a fair deal to you, then the conclusion is that we can do business. It's not a hard rule either.

I only ever sold a card for more than I felt like it was worth once: it was the Radeon VII which I sold for almost twice what I paid for. But given the circumstances, the pricing was still below market average at the time, it was a fair deal and it sold in less than an hour listed. That money allowed me to fund the purchase of my RTX 3090, just like that card paid for most of my 4080.
 
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So you sold your card, lost some money, and now you don't have a video card and are likely going to have to pay scalper pricing to get a 5090.
Nah, I didn't pay scalper pricing for my 4090 (~$1600), and I won't pay scalper pricing for the 5090. You're assuming the person has to have a 5090 regardless of the cost.

I thought about getting an ARC B580 :laugh:.

Before people start jumping on me and calling me a POS, I still have my 4090. :laugh:
 
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The prices at $2500 got thier because the low bearing fruit of stock at lower prices all got bought out. The $2000+ price for gaming is subjective and the delta out of pocket is now $1500 less. Don't worry I'll tell you what your not missing. People spend $3500 on Sony TVs just to watch movies meanwhile there is so much competition in that space for subjectively slightly better image quality yet people buy those TVs. Enthusiast level gaming unfortunately doesn't have this level of competition. I guess one would be sour if you had to compete with enthusiasts for allocation.

None of this addresses the fact that the entire premise of this thread is false. People are not going to fetch your claimed $2,500 - $3,500 by selling their used 4090. Selling now is hardly better than any other point in the 4090's lifecycle. I don't know how you reconcile with the fact that the amount people should actually expect to get for their 4090 is a far cry from what the title and content you wrote suggest. You seem to be making a call to action for people to sell their used cards but cite new prices that are frankly extremely hard to find and questionable as to whether many people are actually buying in that $2,500 - $3,500 price range. I can't find a single product at that $3,500 value and the only place that comes close is newegg. Most other outlets that still have stock sell for up to $2,200 (and that is still very high). And again, those are new prices yet your title clearly states "Best time to sell you used 4090s is now".

I'll also point out that you did not respond to my rebuttal of your claim that the 4090 will drop 30% in value. I'll repeat that here:

I don't see the 4090 dropping 30% off it's $1,600 MSRP. That would place it around $1,120 USD. That's possibly around or below 5080 pricing and with how cut down the 5080 is, the 4090 may well still be faster. Rumors have the 5080 with only 16GB of VRAM as well, which will kill it's appeal to the AI market (which is huge).

We may well be looking at a 2000 series scenario again where the 2080 was slower and had less VRAM than the 1080 Ti at a similar price.

As this was part of your logical reasoning for advising people to sell you should be able to extrapolate on your positioning.

If we peel back the misleading statements and questionable title, I don't see much merit in this thread if all that's left is subjective opinion. If you wanted to discuss subjective opinion you should have titled the thread appropriately and tailored your first comment as such.

Nah, I didn't pay scalper pricing for my 4090 (~$1600), and I won't pay scalper pricing for the 5090. You're assuming the person has to have a 5090 regardless of the cost.

I thought about getting an ARC B580 :laugh:.

Before people start jumping on me and calling me a POS, I still have my 4090. :laugh:

No one said you would. My comment wasn't quoting you nor was it directed at you. Mind you, I wouldn't call you a POS even if you did sell your 4090. The actual prices 4090s are selling used for right now are only slightly elevated from MSRP. You end up taking a loss in most cases. The original post and title advising people to sell and that they'd net $2,500 - $3,500 is simply disconnected from reality, as the linke I provided earlier that has eBay sold listings proves.
 
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My comment wasn't quoting you nor was it directed at you. Mind you, I wouldn't call you a POS even if you did sell your 4090. The actual prices 4090s are selling used for right now are only slightly elevated from MSRP. You end up taking a loss in most cases. The original post and title advising people to sell and that they'd net $2,500 - $3,500 is simply disconnected from reality, as the linke I provided earlier that has eBay sold listings proves.
All good
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I never took it as a personal attack. :D I agree though used ones are selling $1.8-2k which after fees is roughly MSRP, so most people selling would actually be losing depending how much they paid for their card to begin with.
 
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LOL who remember that used GPU usually sell for 50% of MSRP after 6 months, now used 4090 are selling for 90% of MSRP after 2 years.
 
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LOL who remember that used GPU usually sell for 50% of MSRP after 6 months, now used 4090 are selling for 90% of MSRP after 2 years.
Picture this, I got €150,- (35%) for a GTX 1080 in 2024. Seven year old GPU, bordering on 8.
 
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In before Nvidia to release 5090 at 3999$ so selling your 4090 at 2k now actually losses you money 'cuz you could sell it for ~3k after 5000 series launch. :laugh:
 
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LOL who remember that used GPU usually sell for 50% of MSRP after 6 months, now used 4090 are selling for 90% of MSRP after 2 years.
I remember something like that maybe closer to ~ 30-50% off (2014 and earlier) but back than people were smarter and usually performance gains were much more significant then they are now for reasonable price msrp and also tdp. All started going down hill at full speed after pascal in first mining boom. Since then, everything has only gotten worse with each generation. If mining never existed we would see totally different gpu prices right now 100%. Gpu scalpers inspiration comes from miners....
 
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I remember something like that maybe closer to ~ 30-50% off (2014 and earlier) but back than people were smarter and usually performance gains were much more significant then they are now for reasonable price msrp and also tdp. All started going down hill at full speed after pascal in first mining boom. Since then, everything has only gotten worse with each generation. If mining never existed we would see totally different gpu prices right now 100%. Gpu scalpers inspiration comes from miners....

Yeah there was a time when ATI and Nvidia kept releasing new stuff every 6 months, then Nvidia adopted the 2 years release cadence after Pascal.

There always were expensive GPUs (i.e. 3000usd Titan Z or the 1500usd AMD R9 295x2), just that Nvidia has made them more accessible than before (Nvidia was selling Titan lineup only in the US)
 
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Plus you have to be extra careful with these large cards, cracking of the PCB is much more common near the pins because people didn't properly support them. It's not always obvious either. The internal layers of the PCB could be damaged and cause a whole host of issues when you are outside your return period. I'm typically an advocate for purchasing used GPUs but not when there's the possibility of a product having non-visible damage you can't test for.

Both cracking at the PCIe slot edge and solder pads getting pulled off the board under the GPU are physical abuse issues with these apparently. It's one advantage the Suprim X Liquid has, in that the cooling is separately mounted, and the shrouded card is significantly lighter. I still have a support underneath it just to be safe.
 
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