How tariffs are going to impact PC sales Please do not delete this is not Political

kapone32 · 2024-12-16T18:14:55+0000

I bought a Case recently and still have the box. I looked at the label and realized that It was made in China. Received in the US and sold in Canada. How will Companies like Asus and Newegg even navigate this without costs increasing?

Vayra86 · 2024-12-16T18:17:29+0000

Simple, you pay the increased costs anyway, or they make a lower margin.

Steevo · 2024-12-16T20:20:38+0000

kapone32 said:
I bought a Case recently and still have the box. I looked at the label and realized that It was made in China. Received in the US and sold in Canada. How will Companies like Asus and Newegg even navigate this without costs increasing?

We in the US will pay more and those funds will hopefully go to factory/job creation here as we give money to build fabs and assembly plants here that should have never been forced out through taxation/environmental/workforce changes, we are missing critical infrastructure here that the powers that be drove out or allowed to leave.

dirtyferret · 2024-12-16T21:00:41+0000

kapone32 said:
I bought a Case recently and still have the box. I looked at the label and realized that It was made in China. Received in the US and sold in Canada. How will Companies like Asus and Newegg even navigate this without costs increasing?

I can tell you right now, we raised our prices (we import a number of goods from China) when the tariffs were raised last time. There was some work around for some items. Customers pay tariffs, not companies or countries.

dragontamer5788 · 2024-12-16T22:30:03+0000

Steevo said:
We in the US will pay more and those funds will hopefully go to factory/job creation here as we give money to build fabs and assembly plants here that should have never been forced out through taxation/environmental/workforce changes, we are missing critical infrastructure here that the powers that be drove out or allowed to leave.

USA, even with our incredible investments into chips, cannot make them as well as the Taiwanese (TSMC) or Koreans (Samsung).

We have made an agreement with TSMC / Taiwan for them to build an Arizona plant, but it's received repeated delays and culture clashes.

Even Intel is making chips (ex: Battlemage B580) in Taiwan.

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China obviously will be tariffed and a significant number of motherboards (ex: iPhone, Android, mobos, PSUs and more) are made over there. It's less obvious what will happen to allied nations (ex: Taiwan or Korea), but the current politics suggest an across the board tariff on both advarsaries and allies alike.

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In any case, advanced chip design (ex chiplets) and RAM remain USA based. But a significant portion of Flash (ex: Samsung), CPUs (AMD, iPhone), and GPUs (NVidia, AMD, Intel) are made in Taiwan.

And because USA is strategically ambiguous about Taiwan, it's not clear if nuance will win over with a Chinese tariff. (IE: will the tariffs only affect China? How does that play with our One China Policy / treaty??)

It gets quite political quite quickly.

Bill_Bright · 2024-12-16T23:27:29+0000

It is a good point, however. If thinking of buying or building a new computer in the coming year, it may be a good idea to start researching now.

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How tariffs are going to impact PC sales Please do not delete this is not Political

kapone32

Vayra86

Steevo

dirtyferret

dragontamer5788

Bill_Bright