AMD Radeon "RX 8800 XT" is Actually the RX 9070 XT?

[TumbleGeorge]

We are very close to full circle. Radeon R200 series (9000 to next month and Radeon R300 series, (9500 to 9800XT) the legendary, with uDNA1 in 2026-2027

 

[eidairaman1]

Here you go

AMD RDNA 3.5 Powers Radeon RX 8000 for Mobile, RDNA 4 Drives RX 9000 Desktop Series

AMD's interim RDNA 3.5 architecture will power the Radeon RX 8000 series integrated graphics in "Strix Halo" mobile processors, while the more advanced RDNA 4 architecture is reserved for the higher-tier Radeon RX 9000 series of discrete graphics, according to @9550pro on X. We previously...

www.techpowerup.com

The clarification is in this link

 

[mb194dc]

Nvidia is seemingly planning a tiny uplift in the midange as well. Only 6% more shaders on 5070ti rumoured.

Technological progress is dead pretty much...

Both these ultra arrogant businesses think they can pivot to being compute / data centre focused businesses. Rinsing consumers...

They'd better hope better use cases emerge for their data centre products, or possible it could end very badly.

 

[dyonoctis]

Bad naming as usual...
It kind of made sense when they named RDNA the RX 5000 series because of 50th Anniversary. This time what's the point again? Copying opponents' (both Intel and Nvidia) naming doesn't make it competitive.

Justifying the naming rebrand when UDNA will launch. ( Reset after 9000)

 

[N/A]

Nvidia is seemingly planning a tiny uplift in the midange as well. Only 6% more shaders on 5070ti rumoured.

Technological progress is dead pretty much...

Nvidia is seemengly delivering. 60% more Rops, 33%+64 bit bandwidth and 16.6% Shaders. that's a lot. and what did AMD do. glorified 7800XT and it better be good.
The speed increase of 5070 Ti compared to vanilla 4070 Ti, not with super. is almost the same as with 5090 if not more. its 60% overall at least. depending what the game engine needs.

 

[john_]

They will align CPU naming with GPU naming, while at the same time they will copy the Nvidia naming.
From a marketing perspective I think it is a good idea.

 

[Broken Processor]

Change the logo back to green and call it RX9070T there that's bound to confuse some buyers into thinking it's another brands highest tier product.

 

[3valatzy]

Marketing dept doesn't want you to compare the 8800XT to 7800XT. This naming makes so little sense. They could have waited until their UDNA architecture is out to make a completely new naming scheme. Start with 1xxx again.

Apple is keeping it simple for consumers. They start with 1 and add 1. Is this rocket science AMD?

Yup, this will be the 25th generation ATi - AMD graphics, so the proper name is Radeon RX 25700X.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Yup, this will be the 25th generation ATi - AMD graphics, so the proper name is Radeon RX 25700X.

You know what, I would be absolutely ok if they did that kind of naming convection.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You know what, I would be absolutely ok if they did that kind of naming convection.

At least it makes sense, unlike... whatever the hell this is.

 

[TheDeeGee]

"5090? We got 9070"

But it's the performance of a 970 ^^

 

[napata]

If true, model naming realignments typically mean a break from comparisons with previous generations. Conservatively, a next generation beats the current generation by up to 30%. Therefore, a hypothetical 8800XT would have succeeded the 7800XT and have up to 30% more performance putting it around the 7900XT. But now it looks like AMD wants us to compare the next generation to Nvidia model numbers instead. That would mean a hypothetical 9070XT would be equivalent to the upcoming 5070Ti. The 5070Ti should have at least 30% more performance than the 4070Ti putting it around the 7900XTX/4080/4080 Super.

Taking everything into consideration, the 9070XT could be sub-$500, sub-300W and have the same performance as a 7900XTX and 4080 series. AMD would then be competing with Nvidia's next generation all the way up to the 5070Ti. That's a little better than being just a 7800XT successor especially if AMD matches Nvidia's RT performance as well.

You guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.

 

[Hecate91]

You guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.

Source? The leaks I've seen claim 7900XT performance with improved RT, lower TDP for less than $600 msrp.

 

[3valatzy]

Source?

Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.

 

[leonavis]

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.

Well, no. The discrete GPU business barely supports itself in terms of profit, so it's natural AMD stopped delivering High-End. The customer doesn't want AMD-GPUs. Why would they waste ressources?

 

[Hecate91]

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Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.

Leaks and rumors are fun, but I have a hard time trusting twitter leak posts.
I don't think its weird at all, faster iGPU and low end to mid range is what most people will be buying, the tech press and consumers want nvidia, it doesn't make sense for AMD to spend R&D on high end if it won't sell.

 

[3valatzy]

Well, no. The discrete GPU business barely supports itself in terms of profit, so it's natural AMD stopped delivering High-End. The customer doesn't want AMD-GPUs. Why would they waste ressources?

I guess it will be much easier for them to sell those 8060s, but the thing is those are ultra-high-end laptops.
They need a six core Strix something with that 40 CUs GPU. It will sell in more laptops.

 

[RaceT3ch]

Can't they just sort out a semi-normal naming system like with Ryzen?

 

[Marcus L]

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Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.

oh some random cobbled fud you have put together, I believe you now

 

[Krit]

You guys are setting yourself up for dissapointment. The leaks today also said $449-649 for N48 with top end below 7900XT. Now price will depend on what Nvidia does but performance leaks over the past year have been pretty consistent.

RX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I dunno, before the RX era, we had cards like the 3850, 4870, 5870, etc. Now they're dropping the 8 out of there, so it's kinda half old, half new. Besides, AMD has reached the end of the model numbers again. I suppose they'll abandon RX for something new this time? What AI?

 

[Punkenjoy]

RX 7900 GRE performance for the same ~550€ price does not make any sense at all. It's not upgrade it's sidegrade. If it's true RIP amd!

RX 7800 XT already was kinda weak if compare to RX 6800 XT no performance gains at all! If next gen will be another small performance increase for the same or higher price it will be end.

Well RIP? not sure, rumours seems to point in a direction where Nvidia wouldn't move much the needle for price/performance in next gen. You might get more performance, but that will cost more.

Look like only Intel is trying to move that with Battlemage.

 

[3valatzy]

Well RIP?

A third generation with virtually non-existent performance gains. RX 6800 XT -> RX 7800 XT -> RX 9070 XT.
I guess people will be happy to not spend on a "new" pretty expensive graphics card.

 

[Dr. Dro]

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Makes you wonder why the integrated is 8060, while the desktop is 9070, and what the performance difference between them will be.

This name is to hide the epic fail that the card will be - just barely better than RX 7800 XT.

Very weird why they went to design an integrated GPU as fast as RX 7600, but the desktop discrete range will be so underperforming.

Not gonna lie, $611 is a pretty good price for a 6950 XT

 

[Dahita]

I'm waiting for the RTXX 12020 XTXX Special X edition, which should come in three months seeing how fast they're moving forward with the nomenclature.