NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti Final Specifications Seemingly Confirmed

[Ruru]

And AAA doesn't sucked as hard then as now.

And games were were way better optimized. I had a GTX 470 back then and only its 1280MB VRAM held it back more than its horsepower when I had to upgrade (went for R9 280 3GB as upgrade back in 2014).

 

[Onasi]

If the rumors are true and the 5060Ti would actually get 16 gigs at roughly base 4070 performance then that card, if not priced completely insanely, might be a decent buy compared to the 5070. As people pointed out, the true theoretical Goldilocks zone card is probably the 5070Ti, but not at whatever batshit price NV will ask for it.

In any case - meh. I find it hard to care. I play less and less games that are demanding these days. Playing the constant “keep up with upgrades so that the industry can release more poorly made slop” is a fools game. I’ll probably buy some cheap lower powered GPU next year just to get modern decode so that YouTube stops hammering my CPU with AV1 and then go play modded Morrowind or HoMM3 or whatever.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

5070Ti looks like 4070TI Super +10% via faster memory.... and even 5080 specs don't look all that impressive. Ngeedia gives us no incentive to upgrade this gen.
It looks like all large dies are eaten by

 

[Vayra86]

300w doesnt seem as bad as the 350w that was leaked before.

Isn't the 350W attributed to the supposed 5080 with just over 10k shaders?

For those who need a nVidia GPU(for CUDA) with loads of memory, the company created the 3060 12GB and 4060Ti 16GB. It never meant to make sense in gaming, since both cards are quite slow anyway and that (usually happened to) come/s first before the vram is out.

My issue is that the 5070 will be able to run most of the games in decent PT settings but the vram will kill it if something is not there to handle the missing vram.
I was watching a vid (Indiana Jones game -

) where in 1440p DLSS Q + FG in PT medium, the vram needed is 14GB+.
It's bad to have a fast card and not enough VRAM for this.

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This is the Nvidia M.O.
Has been for several decades now. Almost every Nvidia card is hard capped by VRAM.

What stings extra today is that its Nvidia itself pioneering all sorts of tech in their own GPUs that requires additional VRAM (and selling you that tech for a premium). Its a typical case of corporate strategy, create a demand where there wasn't one or shouldn't be one, own that segment, and cash in by giving consumers just slightly below what they want.

And yet still today we have idiots that keep telling themselves 'the card is out of juice anyway, no need for more GBs'. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot... and only to not have to admit that you bought a sub par product. Gosh, why isn't Nvidia giving the 5070 16GB now, I wonder...

 

[Dyatlov A]

How do you know guys from these numbers the performance? 5070ti should beat the 4090 with a little margin. Just like 4070ti beats 3090.

 

[Onasi]

@Dyatlov A
Lolno. There’s almost a 50% performance delta between the 4070Ti Super and the 4090. 4090 is the definition of a halo card - it’s a monster, far more than the 3090 was. Nothing in these specs suggests a 40-50% generational uplift, especially not on the same node process. It’s THEORETICALLY possible, I guess, but that would even beat out Maxwell in how impressive that would be and, well, seeing the trends of last few gens and the fact that extracting more GPU performance seems to be harder with every generation… Yeah, I would say that’s not happening.

 

[Palladium]

And games were were way better optimized. I had a GTX 470 back then and only its 1280MB VRAM held it back more than its horsepower when I had to upgrade (went for R9 280 3GB as upgrade back in 2014).

Even when AAA games were good I realized I rarely touched them again after completion and most of time its back to Source-based games that any toaster can run.

Then I also realized I could just watch AAA slop on Youtube for free and miss out pretty much nothing since the gameplay is all the same.

 

[Ruru]

Even when AAA games were good I realized I rarely touched them again after completion and most of time its back to Source-based games that any toaster can run.

Then I also realized I could just watch AAA slop on Youtube for free and miss out pretty much nothing since the gameplay is all the same.

Luckily I have hella lot of games in my to-do list, my RTX 3080 is fine with my 4K120 screen. Fuck those modern ones where you have to use scaling to be even able to run at 4K60 and still having dips.

 

[AtiAmd]

nVidia is shameless but ultimately the sheepish customers are to blame...

People dont really have a choice...

 

[Prima.Vera]

That 5070 card should be a 5060, while the Ti version, should be a normal 5070....
And people are asking why we call nVidia, nGreedia.
Proof.

 

[freeagent]

Lol. People complaining about prices in every single thread need to find a new hobby

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

A new DLSS version?

I will be honest, my fingers are crossed that they release dlss4 and have tied to the new 50 series, just to see the myriad of excuses and justifications from the flock.

We already know the 9070 is going to be

You read a rumor and its already gospel to you?
This is why we are in this situation.

In any case - meh. I find it hard to care.

Blasphemy!

How dare you ignore new games with the magnificent RT and now PT!
/s

Same here, i’m playing old games and only buy when those old games drop low enough.

People dont really have a choice...

Weird, I found a nice 7900xtx for 899 and 2 games worth 170 and its not a Ngreedia gpu.

 

[freeagent]

5070Ti will be a good replacement for my 4070Ti as I pass my hardware down to my kids.

AMD.. not even on the radar, again. I thought they would have had something decent.

Maybe after they get used to making AI stuff for awhile they will be back.

 

[Zazigalka]

I will be honest, my fingers are crossed that they release dlss4 and have tied to the new 50 series, just to see the myriad of excuses and justifications from the flock.

I wonder what you will say when amd relase the long awaited fsr4 that leverages rdna3 AI hardware.

 

[Ibotibo01]

My prediction for 1440p,

I believe Nvidia would charge 5060 for $299, and probably they will say, "It has memory compression with GDDR7, so buy it for $299. We just want you to save (the more you buy, the more you save)."

 

[Ruru]

AMD.. not even on the radar, again. I thought they would have had something decent.

Though this "Polaris once again" could be hella benefitical to them if they just price it right. RX 5xx is still sold

 

[rsouzadk]

This has to be a joke.. smh

 

[freeagent]

Though this "Polaris once again" could be hella benefitical to them if they just price it right. RX 5xx is still sold

Exactly, they have to price it right. Intel is going to be nipping at their heels soon. I get it, top end is hard to compete at, but they are doing fine where they are right now. If they really want to penetrate (lol) the market, then they have to think like Intel. Get your hardware out, even if you have to eat 50 bucks or whatever, just get it out and be competitive. You have to make people want to buy your hardware. Nothing works better than word of mouth, especially on the internet.

 

[nguyen]

Lol. People complaining about prices in every single thread need to find a new hobby

It's kinda comical when you see fans of the #2 company that got completely dominated by the #1 company try to nit-pick everything about the #1 company, it says more about how incompetent the #2 company is though.

@Dyatlov A
Lolno. There’s almost a 50% performance delta between the 4070Ti Super and the 4090. 4090 is the definition of a halo card - it’s a monster, far more than the 3090 was. Nothing in these specs suggests a 40-50% generational uplift, especially not on the same node process. It’s THEORETICALLY possible, I guess, but that would even beat out Maxwell in how impressive that would be and, well, seeing the trends of last few gens and the fact that extracting more GPU performance seems to be harder with every generation… Yeah, I would say that’s not happening.

Easy, Nvidia can just produce massive die with increased clocks.

Just look at 1080Ti vs 2070Super, the 2070Super has fewer CUDA Cores but the die size is even bigger than 1080Ti and they perform roughly the same with old games (2070Super pull ahead on modern DX12 games)

5070Ti will be using GB103 die, if the GB102 were ~750mm2 then GB103 die can be ~600mm2

 

[Ruru]

Exactly, they have to price it right. Intel is going to be nipping at their heels soon. I get it, top end is hard to compete at, but they are doing fine where they are right now. If they really want to penetrate (lol) the market, then they have to think like Intel. Get your hardware out, even if you have to eat 50 bucks or whatever, just get it out and be competitive. You have to make people want to buy your hardware. Nothing works better than word of mouth, especially on the internet.

Too lazy to google, but didn't AMD also get some pocket money from the last gen console APUs, like it does with the current ones?

Funny how PS4's CPU side is a total joke, but the GCN "HD 7860" is still somewhat capable.

 

[hsew]

All I want…
Is 2x8 pin on 5070 Ti.
It won’t happen,
But one can still dream…

 

[Sound_Card]

It's kinda comical when you see fans of the #2 company that got completely dominated by the #1 company try to nit-pick everything about the #1 company, it says more about how incompetent the #2 company is though.

You have a 4090. You spent somewhere between $1200 (doubt) to $2000 dollars for a graphics card, then you say complaints are just nitpicks. This is the most hysterical post I have read here in a while.

 

[Onasi]

@nguyen
I also enjoy science fiction, but no, that’s not happening. The GA102 was already essentially as big and dense as the process allowed. Hence the poor yields. And comparing 4090 to the 1080ti vs 2070 situation is silly - the 1080ti was absolutely not as far removed from the rest of the stack as the 4090 is. Not to mention that Turing and onwards the die sizes are not comparable to previous architectures - those chips didn’t have RT and Tensor cores. And that was also on a new node. None of those factors will be in play here. Can the 5070 Ti come close, like in a 10-15% range. Potentially. Being faster? Not happening. Again, we’re not getting 50% generational uplifts anymore.

tl:dr The 5070Ti will be 4080S level or a bit faster.

 

[Ruru]

@nguyen
I also enjoy science fiction, but no, that’s not happening. The GA102 was already essentially as big and dense as the process allowed. Hence the poor yields. And comparing 4090 to the 1080ti vs 2070 situation is silly - the 1080ti was absolutely not as far removed from the rest of the stack as the 4090 is. Not to mention that Turing and onwards the die sizes are not comparable to previous architectures - those chips didn’t have RT and Tensor cores. And that was also on a new node. None of those factors will be in play here. Can the 5070 Ti come close, like in a 10-15% range. Potentially. Being faster? Not happening. Again, we’re not getting 50% generational uplifts anymore.

tl:dr The 5070Ti will be 4080S level or a bit faster.

About 1080 Ti, I have a little tinfoiling since first, it crushed 3060, but now it loses to it. Driver optimization or lack of them for 1080 Ti?

Anyway, 1080 Ti is the best card NV has ever made. Loved mine when I had one, still a dope card for 1080p gaming except for some new AAA titles.

 

[hsew]

Just look at 1080Ti vs 2070Super, the 2070Super has fewer CUDA Cores but the die size is even bigger than 1080Ti and they perform roughly the same with old games (2070Super pull ahead on modern DX12 games)

5070Ti will be using GB103 die, if the GB102 were ~750mm2 then GB103 die can be ~600mm2

10 series to 20 series can’t be compared this way, since 20 series is when nVidia introduced RT and Tensor Cores. That’s obviously going to require additional dedicated die space for new logic and complexity.