Need new router for Gigabit internet

[eidairaman1]

Did you get Fios out there? Or Spectrum? My bro-in-law in Northern Suff just got Fios, wondering if your neck of the woods got the same treatment.

I might suggest going with the Verizon router G3100, and some E3200 extenders, even if you are on Spectrum. Rock solid, not the slightest hiccup. Very similar load as you.

Iirc verizon offloaded fios to frontier networks

 

[dirtyferret]

I would not invest in anything that isn't a 4x4 router

this is what was recommend to me o SNB when I first got the AC86U and eventually replaced it with the AX86U (both were 4x4); a place Lostswede also posts

 

[TheLostSwede]

this is what was recommend to me o SNB when I first got the AC86U and eventually replaced it with the AX86U (both were 4x4); a place Lostswede also posts

I also used to work for a router manufacturer for a couple of years, which I believe is more of a show of me knowing something about routers.

 

[dirtyferret]

I also used to work for a router manufacturer for a couple of years, which I believe is more of a show of me knowing something about routers.

I know, I just don't want to out you

 

[1freedude]

Iirc verizon offloaded fios to frontier networks

Only some markets. Then, Frontier brought it up to snuff, then Verizon bought it back for dirt cheap. Big news right now

 

[Steevo]

I would use EoP

https://store.zyxel.com/pla6456-us0201f.html

and plug a mesh unit or the like connected to it on both ends of the house and use the second port of it for the next closest device. My understanding is it will use the EoP connection for backhaul and you will have essentially no penalty.

I'm about to start working on the same thing at home, Cat 8 cables are cheap to move things where you want and be future proof, and hell even 10Gb M.2 add in for a PC is less than $60

 

[1freedude]

Verizon G3100 (like new) - computers - by owner - electronics sale - craigslist

Like new, wifi home router Tri-band 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz frequency Bluetooth capable Internet security, remote access Power cable included Great for home use!

norfolk.craigslist.org

If you do CL.

And I have a matching extender. If you buy that, I will let you use the extender, and if you don't like it, I will buy it from you.

The extender can work three ways...dedicated channel for backhaul, ethernet backhaul, or coax backhaul.

Edit for more info

https://www.verizon.com/content/dam/verizon/support/consumer/documents/internet/fios-router-datasheet.pdf

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm currently looking at this set up, will it do what I'm looking for? I'm not looking for any special networking features with this set up. I just want aa strong WIFI network that covers the whole house and well into the yard and can do the full speeds of a gigabit connection..

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgea...i-system-3-pack-black/6577902.p?skuId=6577902

If you're going to spend that kind of money, the following is a better choice.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-ax5700-dual-band-wi-fi-6-router-black/6535035.p?skuId=6535035

Just option based on experience.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

just for some closure for this thread, I ended up going with @lexluthermiester and @dirtyferret suggestion for the ASUS AX 5700. I made my choice for three reasons. 4.6 stars in reviews, a brand name I knew, and it was locally available. So far I am happy with my purchase.

 

[lexluthermiester]

just for some closure for this thread, I ended up going with @lexluthermiester suggestion for the ASUS AX 5700. I made my choice for three reasons. 4.6 stars in reviews, a brand name I knew, and it was locally available. So far I am happy with my purchase.

Glad to be of help.

 

[ty_ger]

I know everyone will probably hate it, but TPlink makes good routers at a good price. On gig fiber optic I consistently get a bit over a gig on ethernet and consistently 660'ish mbps on wifi.
For the price, they have little competition. Get in before the ban. I haven't seen any concrete evidence for backdoors or unusual traffic, and no published CVEs for my router that I can find.
AX4400

 

[dirtyferret]

FYI, the AX86U is the AX5700. Same wifi router

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know everyone will probably hate it, but TPlink makes good routers at a good price.

Except that TP-Link is about to get banned in the US and Allied nations for national security violations.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-ban-china-router-tp-link-systems-7d7507e6

TP-Link Routers Could Be Banned Next Year. Are They Actually Dangerous?

The Commerce, Defense and Justice Departments are reportedly investigating the Chinese company over security concerns.

www.cnet.com

So no, not a good buy at all as the security in TP-Link routers is HIGHLY suspect.
I wouldn't trust TP-Link with a wet paper bag let alone the security of my home network.

 

[ty_ger]

Except that TP-Link is about to get banned in the US and Allied nations for national security violations.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/us-ban-china-router-tp-link-systems-7d7507e6

TP-Link Routers Could Be Banned Next Year. Are They Actually Dangerous?

The Commerce, Defense and Justice Departments are reportedly investigating the Chinese company over security concerns.

www.cnet.com

So no, not a good buy at all as the security in TP-Link routers is HIGHLY suspect.
I wouldn't trust TP-Link with a wet paper bag let alone the security of my home network.

I addressed that in the part you didn't quote, no?
I have no concerns with my router. I did research and came up with nothing.

 

[Thimblewad]

Why so much hate for TP? I've been using them for years, never had any problems. AC1900 (50€) is fully gigabit capable, I get file transfers from my PC to the server at >85 MB/s. Easily meshable too.

 

[ty_ger]

Why so much hate for TP? I've been using them for years, never had any problems. AC1900 (50€) is fully gigabit capable, I get file transfers from my PC to the server at >85 MB/s. Easily meshable too.

They are too cheap and too good to be true. So there must be a catch. At least that's the claim.
I read the articles. I watched the videos. I watched the 'demonstrations'. I came up with nothing useful. All I see is that some routers have CVEs or security flaws, no proof that it is on purpose, some have no known flaws, and all advice is to keep them updated and don't use default passwords or weak security practices (which applies to all routers). So, I am left . Someone prove me wrong. TP-Link AX4400.
The router I have is $40 less than the competition, meshable, and performs well. Seems like a hit piece to me; like that Supermicro nonsense of years past. Again, prove me wrong.

 

[TheLostSwede]

FYI, the AX86U is the AX5700. Same wifi router

I hope you mean the AX86U Pro.

Why so much hate for TP? I've been using them for years, never had any problems. AC1900 (50€) is fully gigabit capable, I get file transfers from my PC to the server at >85 MB/s. Easily meshable too.

1. They offer piss poor support. I've ended up buying brand new products of theirs that have been EOL and replaced with a new revision of the same hardware, so you only get a couple of firmware updates before your hardware is more or less junk from a security point of view.
2. They have so many hardware revisions of their popular models that you don't really know what you'll get, unless you go to a shop and see the specific revision, so you can end up with five year old hardware that's been sitting on a shelf, which means zero support.
3. They've already been been fined by the FCC multiple times, this was a minor thing that also Asus got in trouble for (PDF link) https://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0801/DOC-340564A1.pdf
4. More recently, this has has happened https://www.techpowerup.com/330002/...-over-connection-to-china-backed-cyberattacks

There are so many reasons not to buy their products, despite the hardware not being bad.

They are too cheap and too good to be true. So there must be a catch. At least that's the claim.
I read the articles. I watched the videos. I watched the 'demonstrations'. I came up with nothing useful. All I see is that some routers have CVEs or security flaws, no proof that it is on purpose, some have no known flaws, and all advice is to keep them updated and don't use default passwords or weak security practices (which applies to all routers). So, I am left . Someone prove me wrong. TP-Link AX4400.
The router I have is $40 less than the competition, meshable, and performs well. Seems like a hit piece to me; like that Supermicro nonsense of years past. Again, prove me wrong.

See above. It's not a hardware issue, but there are a lot of other issues and concerns. That said, D-Link was in a similar boat some years ago and ended up in similar trouble, except point 4.

 

[ty_ger]

I don't see anything relevant there. An old unrelated concern that was settled.
Where is the meat? Again, seems like that Supermicro hit piece.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I don't see anything relevant there. An old unrelated concern that was settled.
Where is the meat? Again, seems like that Supermicro hit piece.

Good thing we're all free to buy whatever we want then, but there are serious issues with TP-Link and I will not be giving them any more of my money.

 

[eidairaman1]

I hope you mean the AX86U Pro.


1. They offer piss poor support. I've ended up buying brand new products of theirs that have been EOL and replaced with a new revision of the same hardware, so you only get a couple of firmware updates before your hardware is more or less junk from a security point of view.
2. They have so many hardware revisions of their popular models that you don't really know what you'll get, unless you go to a shop and see the specific revision, so you can end up with five year old hardware that's been sitting on a shelf, which means zero support.
3. They've already been been fined by the FCC multiple times, this was a minor thing that also Asus got in trouble for (PDF link) https://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0801/DOC-340564A1.pdf
4. More recently, this has has happened https://www.techpowerup.com/330002/...-over-connection-to-china-backed-cyberattacks

There are so many reasons not to buy their products, despite the hardware not being bad.


See above. It's not a hardware issue, but there are a lot of other issues and concerns. That said, D-Link was in a similar boat some years ago and ended up in similar trouble, except point 4.

Sounds alot like gigabyte with all the hw revisions (makes them cheaper and low quality) anyways, Yeah TP Link will cease to be a product in the US.

 

[ty_ger]

Good thing we're all free to buy whatever we want then, but there are serious issues with TP-Link and I will not be giving them any more of my money.

Let's be honest. How many here are using custom firmware with a power limit that exceeds the FCC's regulations?

 

[dirtyferret]

I hope you mean the AX86U Pro.

they simply list it as AC86U (AX5700 Dual Band WiFi 6) on their web site and amazon, I know they have the S version, regular and pro

RT-AX86 Series(RT-AX86U/RT-AX86S)

ASUS gaming routers provide the very best gaming experience, with an arsenal of features and tools designed to improve online gaming performance and give you the competitive edge you need to win.

www.asus.com

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-RT-AX86U-802-11ax-Lifetime-Internet/dp/B08BJHS3X7?th=1

 

[TheLostSwede]

Let's be honest. How many here are using custom firmware with a power limit that exceeds the FCC's regulations?

No-one that owns an 802.11ax router or later, since it's no longer possible to change it.

they simply list it as AC86U (AX5700 Dual Band WiFi 6) on their web site and amazon, I know they have the S version, regular and pro

RT-AX86 Series(RT-AX86U/RT-AX86S)

ASUS gaming routers provide the very best gaming experience, with an arsenal of features and tools designed to improve online gaming performance and give you the competitive edge you need to win.

www.asus.com

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-RT-AX86U-802-11ax-Lifetime-Internet/dp/B08BJHS3X7?th=1

Oh noes, those are not good purchases these days, as they're on the way out, the Pro SKUs are the ones to get if you're buying a new Asus AX86/88 router.
The RT-AX68U is already EOL, alongside the very meh RT-AX92U.

This is the current "recommended" list by Asus. I would avoid the RT-AXE7800 and TUF-AX4200 though.

Sounds alot like gigabyte with all the hw revisions (makes them cheaper and low quality) anyways, Yeah TP Link will cease to be a product in the US.

Meh, all the motherboard makers does that, Gigabyte is just being open with it.
Not all revisions are making things cheaper, not even TP-Link router revisions, as some got more flash or RAM.

 

[eidairaman1]

No-one that owns an 802.11ax router or later, since it's no longer possible to change it.


Oh noes, those are not good purchases these days, as they're on the way out, the Pro SKUs are the ones to get if you're buying a new Asus AX86/88 router.
The RT-AX68U is already EOL, alongside the very meh RT-AX92U.

This is the current "recommended" list by Asus. I would avoid the RT-AXE7800 and TUF-AX4200 though.
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Meh, all the motherboard makers does that, Gigabyte is just being open with it.
Not all revisions are making things cheaper, not even TP-Link router revisions, as some got more flash or RAM.

Inferior quality components used

 

[TheLostSwede]

Inferior quality components used

You got any proof of that?