ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 9070 XT Comes with Three 8-pin Power Connectors

[Vayra86]

There is no way AMD gained a full Ghz on its GPUs in one gen. I don't even care how many 8 pin sockets you put on the card. You're absolutely dreaming even if you think they'll hit 3.5 Ghz. If it had that potential, AMD would have sold it as a 3.3 Ghz card to begin with.

RDNA3 was already brutally inefficient at anything over 2700. That 2970mhz you see there, is the boost clock. It'll do 3100 on an OC at best. More? Not happening especially 24/7 unless you like seeing a 110C hotspot.

People really have wild fantasies these days lmao.

 

[Bomby569]

everyone: this is insane, cards are too big
nvidia: here is a smaller card like you ask
amd: here is a mid range card as big as the previous high end and bigger than the 5090

amd fans: coping mode entering warp speed


lets call it for what it is, AMD is just selling based on marketing: the number change, the size and 8 pin connectors, smells like desperation.

 

[Macro Device]

you like seeing a 110C hotspot.

I want it ram beyond 300F. No matter what. RED GOEZ FASTA. RED GOEZ HOTTA.

The wildest fantasy so far is that RDNA4 is to make a difference. RDNA4 is a filler episode and AMD have already admitted that by refusing to release anything higher than high mid tier.

 

[Vya Domus]

amd: here is a mid range card as big as the previous high end and bigger than the 5090

amd fans: coping mode entering warp speed

These aren't reference AMD cards, you understand that, right ?

 

[Vayra86]

lets call it for what it is, AMD is just selling based on marketing: the number change, the size and 8 pin connectors, smells like desperation.

This. Its really all I can see here. AMD firing on all the wrong cilinders to keep hold of their 10% share... Its utterly ridiculous incompetence and a strategic blunder.

 

[Macro Device]

These aren't reference AMD cards, you understand that, right ?

AMD could've prevented that by telling their AIB partners the ochlos wants space efficient units, but alas. AIBs love their overcompensatory wares as much as Suid Afrikaaners love their vuvuzelas.

 

[Bomby569]

This. Its really all I can see here. AMD firing on all the wrong cilinders to keep hold of their 10% share... Its utterly ridiculous incompetence and a strategic blunder.

we just asked for what Intel delivered: lower prices, especially on lower/mid range. That's it.
Sure we still don't know the prices, it could be a bargain, but we all know why they didn't mentioned them at CES. There is still time for a 180 but i doubt it and it doesn't seem good from where I'm standing, They double down on what drove them to the ground.

 

[Vya Domus]

AMD could've prevented that by telling their AIB partners the ochlos wants space efficient units, but alas.

Same way Nvidia does ? There are also custom 50 series cards which are giant and I'll remind everyone it was AMD who first made a point about releasing more compact reference cards with 7000 serries.

 

[Broken Processor]

I wonder if a lot of these designs where meant for something a lot more powerful and my guess is they didn't want to spend more money on development after they where told they weren't going to need boards with 3x8 power connectors or massive heatsinks or maybe the markets they are aimed for simply want powerful looking mock high end cards sitting in their rigs.

 

[Hecate91]

Same way Nvidia does ? There are also custom 50 series cards which are giant and I'll remind everyone it was AMD who first made a point about releasing more compact reference cards with 7000 serries.

Yes but people need a reason to bash on AMD here without even seeing specs yet.

everyone: this is insane, cards are too big
nvidia: here is a smaller card like you ask
amd: here is a mid range card as big as the previous high end and bigger than the 5090

amd fans: coping mode entering warp speed


lets call it for what it is, AMD is just selling based on marketing: the number change, the size and 8 pin connectors, smells like desperation.

I take it you haven't seen the aib Nvidia 5000 series cards, they're huge too. The FE models are unobtainium unless you're lucky to live near a store which might sell a few of them.
The massive aib cards are selling based on what consumers want, excessively large cards so they can wave the e-peen in a glass rgb case. As for the 8 pin connector, it's a good thing IMO, I would rather plug 3 of those in than use the new connector, and most psu's now have at least 3 8 pins.

 

[wolf]

They'd rather stack on 3x8 pins than do a single 12V-2X6 lol. I wonder if pleasing a vocal minority is really the better option over space efficiency.

And does it even really need 3? 525w on a 9070XT.... talk about pushing far into inefficiency for a hundred mhz or two.

 

[Pumper]

Well, that kills any intent I had to even consider switching to AMD for my GPU.

 

[Jism]

No, it's just idiocy, making giant 3-4 slot cards with a gazillion power connectors for marketing purposes, reference 7900XTX ran fine with 2x8pin and that card has 450W spikes.

And even if you have 450W spikes, it is easily absorbed by both 2x 8 Pin connectors.

For reference, a single 12V Yellow line is capable (if good quality) of up to 12Amps. Times 3 is 36 amps or simply 430W alone. Times two is up to 860W and we're not even counting the PCI-E slot power with that.

It's only to distribute or balance power, esp the weaker PSU's or wiring used could suffer or even melt, but who builds a PC with high end components and skimps out on the PSU if i may ask?

 

[PATHGALORE]

The core is too low on the pcb, in a year there's going to be a shit ton of faulty cards.

 

[Hankieroseman]

People just love big powerful looking cards...

both 4060ti....

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I do! I do!

 

[Vya Domus]

The core is too low on the pcb, in a year there's going to be a shit ton of faulty cards.

Shorter traces to PCIe slot means better reliability not worse.

 

[Chrispy_]

9070XT is supposed to be a 7900XT-class GPU on a much more power-efficient node.

If it consumes more than 300W then AMD have really f***ed up.

 

[bitsandboots]

Or it's there because it needs it when the card is juiced to its fullest potential. Basic models have the 2 connectors and will likely suffer from power limit issues on such base models when overclocked (since I apparently forgot to mention this), same situation the RTX 3090 had. That's why NV adopted the 2x6 connector, it eliminates that problem and ensures an ample power supply regardless of model.

Interestingly though the 9070 exists in both multi-8-pin, and 12V-2x6 varieties
Awfully nice that there's variety for consumers to pick what's best for them.
Don't know if it's confirmed but it feels like nvidia is dictating the power plug on vendor cards which sucks for choice but also seems like weird priorities - why should they care?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

9070XT is supposed to be a 7900XT-class GPU on a much more power-efficient node.

If it consumes more than 300W then AMD have really f***ed up.

wait N5 and N4 are that different in power?

 

[PATHGALORE]

Shorter traces to PCIe slot means better reliability not worse.

Its not the traces, but broken solder balls do to gpu sag. It's going to be core reballing festival.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

Why not just just two 8-pin connectors? I believe single 8-pin power connector provides up to 150 watts of power. I don't think 9070XT would consume more than 375 watts (2*150W vipa pins+75W via PCIE). Another pointless overengineering feed by asus

 

[Dr. Dro]

Interestingly though the 9070 exists in both multi-8-pin, and 12V-2x6 varieties
Awfully nice that there's variety for consumers to pick what's best for them.
Don't know if it's confirmed but it feels like nvidia is dictating the power plug on vendor cards which sucks for choice but also seems like weird priorities - why should they care?

I agree. AsRock also made a 2x6 7900 XTX some time ago, though it was more of a business oriented model than a flashy gaming card. Ultimately the decision to go with 8 pin connectors is probably rooted in the average AMD customer, they clearly do market research and see this connector isn't very popular with their core audience

Why not just just two 8-pin connectors? I believe single 8-pin power connector provides up to 150 watts of power. I don't think 9070XT would consume more than 375 watts (2*150W vipa pins+75W via PCIE). Another pointless overengineering feed by asus

Both Gigabyte (Aorus) and TUL (PowerColor) are also introducing triple input cards. Sapphire might as well, have not seen their cards yet. It might not merely sip power as rumored.

 

[freeagent]

FYI, Gigabyte AORUS RX 9070 XT also has 3 8-pin power connectors

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That is fucking gross.

There is no way that would ever make its way into my system.

Have fun with that fellas.

 

[bitsandboots]

I agree. AsRock also made a 2x6 7900 XTX some time ago, though it was more of a business oriented model than a flashy gaming card. Ultimately the decision to go with 8 pin connectors is probably rooted in the average AMD customer, they clearly do market research and see this connector isn't very popular with their core audience



Both Gigabyte (Aorus) and TUL (PowerColor) are also introducing triple input cards. Sapphire might as well, have not seen their cards yet. It might not merely sip power as rumored.

Market-wise, it does make sense to see 8 pins on cheaper cards. On the low end its likely someone is trying to save money such as by not updating their PSU.
Powering the 5090 would be rough with 8 pins. I had a look at the 4xxx series and I was incorrect, some did use 8 pin. 4060s and 4070s, but can't find 4070 ti with them.
So I guess on the nvidia side the same logic applied, that the lower end is made to accommodate pre-existing PSUs without need of adapters.

 

[wNotyarD]

Both Gigabyte (Aorus) and TUL (PowerColor) are also introducing triple input cards. Sapphire might as well, have not seen their cards yet. It might not merely sip power as rumored.

With Sapphire's recent history, it's possible that the Pulse has 2x 8-pin, while PURE and Nitro have 3 of them.