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Lots of stock have when producing a lot. I think that AMD use few % of all engagement capacity of TSMC for consumer products and just part of this part is for CPUs with x3d.
I hear you but it has already been replenished and is already Out of stock again in some places. Even here on TPU some of the Biggest Intel supporters now run X3D including some TPU staff.
 
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To get down to a MATX, If Intel has support for the W Class, in the smaller formats, why not threadripper. Yes, I know this is a deep micro atx too!

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Yep the 2920x inspired me to only go with 12 cores. What would be even better would be a chip like the 1900X. That chip was like $30 more than a 1700X with more than double the PCIE lanes. Today's $500+ MBs are just porn. I still have my X399 and will be using it as a Virtual hub for some Racing rigs.
Yeah, ideally, starting at 8 cores would be nice. There are a lot of power users who needs lots of IO and memory and good core performance for productive tasks that are not giant batch jobs. (Not to mention it would double as a great gaming rig).
AMD (and Intel) are really screwing up by not satisfying the "HEDT market". Just imagine them selling cherry-picked 8 core ($500), 12 core ($650) and 16 core($800) with slightly higher clocks and higher TDP than mainstream, along with non-gimmicky motherboards at $400-500 (many well featured mainstream motherboards cost this anyways).

If X3D was a gimmick there would be lots of stock.
It mostly affects low resolution gaming and very select edge case workloads, while most heavy workloads see no real benefit if not a disadvantage from heat or throttling. It makes no sense for a workstation CPU.
 
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I’m looking forward to a single CCD CPU with 12c/24t accompanied with an advanced high frequency I/O die. When something like that surfaces it would be hard for me to resist…
If X3D still makes sense at the time, even better.

Personally I’m ok with the existing PCI-E lane and memory channel count. I do not need more of them just as I don’t need more board cost.
Also I think DDR5 has a lot more to offer still.
 
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AMD (and Intel) are really screwing up by not satisfying the "HEDT market"
What kind of workload do you have that isn't yet optimized for a lot of cores but does need a ton of PCIE lanes/extreme memory capacities?

I’m looking forward to a single CCD CPU with 12c/24t accompanied with an advanced high frequency I/O die
Would be interesting to see for sure, but I just don't think it will happen for a few years? Maybe if Intel keeps pushing with their E-cores. Games won't bother to push for more than 8 coress until at least next generation of consoles, provided the latter happen to have more than 8 cores...

Personally I’m ok with the existing PCI-E lane and memory channel count. I do not need more of them just as I don’t need more board cost
Same-ish. The grand majority of people won't plug anything other than two RAM sticks, a GPU card, maybe two NVME drives, tops. Maybe the odd SATA drive. So I don't think the current somewhat limited PCIE lane amount will change much either.
 
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Would be interesting to see for sure, but I just don't think it will happen for a few years? Maybe if Intel keeps pushing with their E-cores. Games won't bother to push for more than 8 coress until at least next generation of consoles, provided the latter happen to have more than 8 cores...
I believe that some of those if not all my expectations could be fulfilled with Zen6 on AM5.
 
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Exactly, why did they not keep running with this board and layout.
Perfect platorm! I reached out to Asrock to see they could upgrade the 3 PCIe 3.0 x16 to 4.0 lanes, and etc. They said not, but if I said I needed a thousand of them, they possible would have considered.
 

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I’m looking forward to a single CCD CPU with 12c/24t accompanied with an advanced high frequency I/O die. When something like that surfaces it would be hard for me to resist…
If X3D still makes sense at the time, even better.

Personally I’m ok with the existing PCI-E lane and memory channel count. I do not need more of them just as I don’t need more board cost.
Also I think DDR5 has a lot more to offer still.
That sounds like a job Arrow Lake could do! The 285K has all of its 24 threads (cores, even) on a single die, which is paired with an I/O-die that is certainly advanced and presumably high-frequency (Are you talking about memory clock?). It works well enough without extra cache (though more of it could have helped for sure) and all the rest of the platform you’ll likely find to be similarly robust.

So, there you go! Available for days short of a full three months so far, the future is now, it can be yours whenever you want.:rockout:
 
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NameGraphics Model# of CPU Cores# of ThreadsMax. Boost ClockBase ClockDefault TDP
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 5995WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required64128Up to 4.5 GHz2.7 GHz280W
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 5975WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required3264Up to 4.5 GHz3.6 GHz280W
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 5965WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required2448Up to 4.5 GHz3.8 GHz280W
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 5955WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required1632Up to 4.5 GHz4 GHz280W
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 5945WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required1224Up to 4.5 GHz4.1 GHz280W
AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ PRO 7945WXDiscrete Graphics Card Required1224Up to 5.3 GHz4.7 GHzNot Included350W

It would be great to see this generation of 12 cores and 24 threads reach a maximum clock speed of 6.0 GHz. The previous generation was 1.2 GHz slower (7945wx to 5945WX), so let's hope they achieve the 6.0 GHz mark.
 
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What kind of workload do you have that isn't yet optimized for a lot of cores but does need a ton of PCIE lanes/extreme memory capacities?
Pretty much any interactive "professional" workload has some kind of sweet-spot where more (slower) cores are outperformed by fewer faster cores etc. This includes development, CAD, 3D-modelling, graphics and multimedia. The workloads that do scale are async workloads, usually large batch workloads that are not interactive, like large simulations, build jobs, video transcoding etc. And what do all of these have in common? The end user usually don't sit and watch it happen, and if it's big enough the user will offload this to some kind of server. It is unfortunate that "workstation" benchmarks focus on these big (often synthetic) batch workloads which doesn't accurately represent workstation use.

In reality, the typical workstation user switches between multiple medium to heavy workloads that are mostly interactive. Responsiveness, productivity and stability is key, so balancing many aspects incl. core speed, core count, CPU performance consistency, storage IO, GPU performance, and memory bandwidth and capacity all may play a role.

Especially for "prosumers" who combine "work" and play, the old HEDT systems was excellent; flexibility, expandability and very consistent performance. Nowadays pretty much any heavy workload will benefit 2-4 high performance SSDs (1 OS, and however many for workloads, VMs, etc.), and running those through the chipset will result in terrible performance. Not to mention this will be competing for bandwidth with network, USB and SATA devices too, so there's not much use in PCIe gen 5 devices then.

If you want anything beyond a very basic setup for gaming or light office use, you'll have to do serious compromises. And with expensive "top" mainstream motherboards for both AMD and Intel being more limited than before, you'll have to live with your choice of limitations, or keep upgrading all the time. Unfortunately the mainstream platforms are becoming "increasingly useless" by trying to be a Jack of all trades, basically threading into "HEDT territory" with slightly more IO and cores, and especially pricing, but with heavy throttling/inconsistent performance and severe limitations. I'm not arguing that everyone needs a "HEDT" system, just like not everyone needs a pickup and a chainsaw, but carving out a proper HEDT segment again and moving the high-power CPUs there and let them have some breathing room would be great for everyone so the mainstream can be cheaper for gamers and basic office use.

It would be great to see this generation of 12 cores and 24 threads reach a maximum clock speed of 6.0 GHz. The previous generation was 1.2 GHz slower (7945wx to 5945WX), so let's hope they achieve the 6.0 GHz mark.
The AM5 CPUs will probably be a good indicator of what kind of clock ranges to expect, but I hope they do better cherry-picking and manage to push them a little further. Nevertheless, the higher TDP headroom and easier cooling will at the very least mean less throttling, so don't get too fixated on specs alone.

But keep in mind you're talking about Threadripper PRO though, the much more expensive siblings in the Threadripper family with 8 channels of memory and 128 PCIe lanes. It's kind of strange that the regular Threadripper (4 channel, 48+24 PCIe lanes) starts at 24 cores, yet the PRO offers 12 and 16 core variants. If there is a professional demand for all that IO on mere 12 and 16 cores, there should be no reason not to offer those for the regular Threadrippers too (or better yet 8 cores too).

To make things worse, Threadripper PRO isn't widely available, and have usually been very late to market.
 
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