Help needed identifying the correct bios to reflash fake gpu

[faiz981219]

Hello everyone!!! I recently picked this fake GT730 4GB DDR5 on a flea market for $34. I told myself this could be a nice chance to test my RPi spi flasher. Help me identify the real model of this card!!

When analyze the saved bios by imhex, I got this information:
GF119 Board - 13100004

Can I assume this card use GF119-300-A1 chipset?

 

[eidairaman1]

Its a Fermi

Hello everyone!!! I recently picked this fake GT730 4GB DDR5 on a flea market for $34. I told myself this could be a nice chance to test my RPi spi flasher. Help me identify the real model of this card!!

Remove the gpu heatsink amd get a pucture of the board on the top and bottom and a pic of the pcie bracket ports, also s close up of a ram chip and the gpu die please

Some are even gf 116 based.

gf116 GT 730 VBIOS

2048 MB DDR3, 810 MHz GPU, 667 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

 

[StViolenceDay]

Typically fake cards have all info real except DeviceId, Name and VRAM size/model.
So chances are that "GF119" and first digits of VBIOS version "75.19" are ok.

Searching by this number suggests that its GT610 GPU (Fermi GF119 card)

However, guessing the VRAM size - requires seeing the actual marking on the VRAM ICs, since specifying the wrong size in VBIOS is quite common (however, if card works fine with current VBIOS - chances are that VRAM size is ok).

So, Id suggest trying the GT610 2GB VBIOSes from
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...=&interface=&memType=DDR3&memSize=2048&since=

If yours GPU set of a video outputs differs from "DVI-I+HDMI+VGA" - you may need checking some "unverified uploads" variants https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=Uploads&memType=DDR3&memSize=2048&did=10DE-104A--

 

[eidairaman1]

From what is Reported GF 119 is supposed to be 48 8 4, GF 117 is 48 8 8, so its def an ultra fake.

Typically fake cards have all info real except DeviceId, Name and VRAM size/model.
So chances are that "GF119" and first digits of VBIOS version "75.19" are ok.

Searching by this number suggests that its GT610 GPU (Fermi GF119 card)

However, guessing the VRAM size - requires seeing the actual marking on the VRAM ICs, since specifying the wrong size in VBIOS is quite common (however, if card works fine with current VBIOS - chances are that VRAM size is ok).

So, Id suggest trying the GT610 2GB VBIOSes from
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...=&interface=&memType=DDR3&memSize=2048&since=

If yours GPU set of a video outputs differs from "DVI-I+HDMI+VGA" - you may need checking some "unverified uploads" variants https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/?architecture=Uploads&memType=DDR3&memSize=2048&did=10DE-104A--

Bios being heavily modified determines the ram, also ive seen ram reported as 2 gb when physically only having 1 gb

 

[faiz981219]

So what should I do?

 

[faiz981219]

Here the pic of gpu without heatsink

 

[eidairaman1]

So what should I do?

See my instructions above or smash it with a hammer, your choice

 

[faiz981219]

How to determine the card is gt 610 or gt 520?

 

[eidairaman1]

How to determine the card is gt 610 or gt 520?

What video outputs are on the card? Take a picture. I asked for that earlier

Is there only 4 ram chips on the card, zoom out and take a picture then flip the card over and get a picture.

Because all I see is 512MegaBytes or 0.5 GigaBytes physically present on there.

 

[faiz981219]

The gpu die is GF119-300-A1
Ram :
1. h5tq1g83tfr- h9c - 4pcs
2. H5TQ1G83TFR-G7C -4pcs

The port output : DVI, HDMI, VGA

 

[eidairaman1]

The gpu die is GF119-300-A1
Ram :
1. h5tq1g83tfr- h9c - 4pcs
2. H5TQ1G83TFR-G7C -4pcs

The port output : DVI, HDMI, VGA

Ok it's a 1GB card, DDR3, Hynix (Bios Reports micron, but thats fake)

This is definitely a basket case frankenstein fake.

Also it will need to run the ram speed bin at 1066 since that is the slower of the bunch


From what I see your current bios would need to be edited to restore correct information since the card is using a mobility version of a gpu die, also to restore hynix info, correct ram amount of 1GB and clock speeds.

You seriously have a potato on your hands.

GF119
48 Shaders
8 TMU
8 ROP

Your ram

H5TQ1G83TFR Download

Download H5TQ1G83TFR Datasheet. File Size: 458.0 Kbytes. Part #: H5TQ1G83TFR. Description: 1Gb DDR3 SDRAM. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

www.alldatasheet.com

Try these for looking in the vga bios collection (Keep in mind your rop count can be fake)

Good luck hunting.

 

[faiz981219]

Ok it's a 1GB card, DDR3, Hynix (Bios Reports micron, but thats fake)

Also it will need to run the ram speed bin at 1066 since that is the slower of the bunch

From what I gather it is a nv geforce 705A or 705M

How about gt 520?

Ok it's a 1GB card, DDR3, Hynix (Bios Reports micron, but thats fake)

Also it will need to run the ram speed bin at 1066 since that is the slower of the bunch

From what I gather it is a nv geforce 705A or 705M due to the shader, TMU and ROP counts.

Isn't geforce 705a and 705m design for laptop?

May you take a review of these link:
1. h5tq1g83tfr g7c- https://www.datasheets360.com/part/detail/h5tq1g83tfr-g7c/-8273801895089531399/

2. h5tq1g83tfr h9c- https://www.datasheets360.com/part/detail/h5tq1g83tfr-h9c/-5400826984083134100/

Ok it's a 1GB card, DDR3, Hynix (Bios Reports micron, but thats fake)

This is definitely a basket case frankenstein fake.

Also it will need to run the ram speed bin at 1066 since that is the slower of the bunch


From what I see your current bios would need to be edited to restore correct information since the card is using a mobility version of a gpu die, also to restore hynix info, correct ram amount of 1GB and clock speeds.

You seriously have a potato on your hands.

GF119
48 Shaders
8 TMU
8 ROP

Your ram

H5TQ1G83TFR Download

Download H5TQ1G83TFR Datasheet. File Size: 458.0 Kbytes. Part #: H5TQ1G83TFR. Description: 1Gb DDR3 SDRAM. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

www.alldatasheet.com

Try these for looking in the vga bios collect

Ok it's a 1GB card, DDR3, Hynix (Bios Reports micron, but thats fake)

This is definitely a basket case frankenstein fake.

Also it will need to run the ram speed bin at 1066 since that is the slower of the bunch


From what I see your current bios would need to be edited to restore correct information since the card is using a mobility version of a gpu die, also to restore hynix info, correct ram amount of 1GB and clock speeds.

You seriously have a potato on your hands.

GF119
48 Shaders
8 TMU
8 ROP

Your ram

H5TQ1G83TFR Download

Download H5TQ1G83TFR Datasheet. File Size: 458.0 Kbytes. Part #: H5TQ1G83TFR. Description: 1Gb DDR3 SDRAM. Manufacturer: Hynix Semiconductor.

www.alldatasheet.com

Try these for looking in the vga bios collection (Keep in mind your rop count can be fake)

Good luck hunting.

How to choose, those are really similar?

 

[StViolenceDay]

How to determine the card is gt 610 or gt 520?

I'm not sure that 520 was different from 610 in anything besides VBIOS. So the anwser is "doesn't matter"

I suggest just trying this 610 VBIOS (it the most conservative VRAM frequencies from other 610s 1GB)

Zotac GT 610 VBIOS

1024 MB DDR3, 810 MHz GPU, 533 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

As far as you already have a backup you have very small risk in experimenting with various VBIOSes.

 

[eidairaman1]

He does have a programmer, @VuurVOS kniws which 1s to get and 1s to avoid as not all are created equally.

I'm not sure that 520 was different from 610 in anything besides VBIOS. So the anwser is "doesn't matter"

I suggest just trying this 610 VBIOS (it the most conservative VRAM frequencies from other 610s 1GB)

Zotac GT 610 VBIOS

1024 MB DDR3, 810 MHz GPU, 533 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

As far as you already have a backup you have very small risk in experimenting with various VBIOSes.

 

[VuurVOS]

@VuurVOS kniws which 1s to get and 1s to avoid as not all are created equally.

CH341a v1.7 is the good one, the one with the black PCB should be avoided

 

[faiz981219]

what does GF119 Board - 13100004 mean?

CH341a v1.7 is the good one, the one with the black PCB should be avoided

I have the one with the black PCB only

 

[VuurVOS]

I have the one with the black PCB only

Voltage selection of the black PCB doesnt work and might physically kill your card due overvoltage.

 

[ppanickk]

There is a forum member siryoink who once started a thread about the fake BIOSes of GTX 1050 and HD 7670. The thread is old and I am not sure that forum member is active these days but it might be worth it giving it a shot.

 

[eidairaman1]

There is a forum member siryoink who once started a thread about the fake BIOSes of GTX 1050 and HD 7670. The thread is old and I am not sure that forum member is active these days but it might be worth it giving it a shot.

He was on January 5th, might consider private messaging him

 

[faiz981219]

Here the pic of gpu without heatsinkView attachment 380500

Where's the bio chip located?

 

[VuurVOS]

Where's the bio chip located?

Can you make clear picture of the whole PCB on both sides. We can't read the text of the the chips which you shared earlier.

 

[StViolenceDay]

From what is Reported GF 119 is supposed to be 48 8 4, GF 117 is 48 8 8, so its def an ultra fake.

Regarding ROPs/TMUs count - this seems to be just a "several-years-old inconsistency" in GPU-Z vs site - https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/number-of-rops-tmus-on-geforce-gt-520.232213/

@W1zzard, can you remember if the above-linked difference in ROPs count was somehow fixed? (4 in GPU-Z vs 8 on the site for GF119-based GPUs)

So the chip is plain, normal GF119.

Where's the bio chip located?

Assuming that your board is ~identical to those more distinguishable photos -

https://www.clubedohardware.com.br/uploads/attachments/monthly_2023_04/Shopee_06b963302eaa866dd905b94ac6272acd.jpg.646c08085c0dee891593dc4384fe3a7c.jpg

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?attachments/card-front-jpg.79011/

the VBIOS chip is here:

 

[W1zzard]

I have GF119 as 4 ROPs in GPU-Z. What version of GPU-Z is OP running?

 

[StViolenceDay]

I have GF119 as 4 ROPs in GPU-Z. What version of GPU-Z is OP running?

Thanks for reply; maybe GPU-Z ROP counting is "fooled" by faked device id?

I mean "wrong ROP counting algorithm" is selected based on a wrong device id (and not based on the chip id)