NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Founders Edition Unboxing

[x4it3n]

It's amazing how many people will rush out to buy this at $2000 so they can get a few more frames while playing on, most likely, a 1440 or 1080p monitor. Psychological obsolescence lol. The same people will scream about housing unaffordability and car insurance prices.

The 5090 was made for people with a 4K@240Hz monitor. Nvidia even said that 4K@240fps was the target (even though it's not Native 4K and we all wish it was lol). But as of now that's the "best" we can have

 

[Bwaze]

Cyberpunk 2077 is a 2020 title, and Nvidia had the audacity to show how their upcoming $2000 card (and more, we’re being told) card runs it at 27 FPS in 4K native - we are getting further and further from even planning on running anything native. Which is perfect if you ask Nvidia - their upscaler is the only one worth using!

 

[x4it3n]

Cyberpunk 2077 is a 2020 title, and Nvidia had the audacity to show how their upcoming $2000 card (and more, we’re being told) card runs it at 27 FPS in 4K native - we are getting further and further from even planning on running anything native. Which is perfect if you ask Nvidia - their upscaler is the only one worth using!

I was definitely hoping that RT/PT performance between the 5090 and 4090 would be around 60-70% faster thanks to newer RT cores and much higher memory bandwidth, but nope... I don't know if they're always using DLSS and not Native 4K for their benchmarks but it's very disappointing if it's just 30-40%.

 

[Vya Domus]

Nvidia even said that 4K@240fps was the target

Yeah with 100X FG and upscaling.

Download Lossless Scaling and anyone can have a 4K120FPS card lol.

 

[x4it3n]

Yeah with 100X FG and upscaling.

Download Lossless Scaling and anyone can have a 4K120FPS card lol.

I tried Lossless Scaling on my PC with a 4090 and 9800X3D, it's not bad but it makes your GPU drop almost 1/3 of its performance... and it is recommended that you lock your fps to have a smooth experience. DLSS 4 will be done Natively (without performance drop) and with motion vectors (less artifacts and better image quality).

 

[lexluthermiester]

I tried Lossless Scaling on my PC with a 4090 and 9800X3D, it's not bad but it makes your GPU drop almost 1/3 of its performance... and it is recommended that you lock your fps to have a smooth experience. DLSS 4 will be done Natively (without performance drop) and with motion vectors (less artifacts and better image quality).

1/3 of what? You gave no context to understand the scale you're referencing. 1/3 of 300FPS? 1/3 of 90FPS? What game, what other settings?

 

[x4it3n]

1/3 of what? You gave no context to understand the scale you're referencing. 1/3 of 300FPS? 1/3 of 90FPS? What game, what other settings?

I said "1/3 of its performance"... learn how to read! No wonder why you're saying people said something else
But since you need some baby explanation... if you're having ~90fps without LSFG then you get around ~60fps with it. Try it yourself you'll see.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I said "1/3 of its performance"... learn how to read!

Seriously? Reading comprehension and context are also important. You missed some of it. What do you think you missed?

But since you need some baby explanation...

You're throwing out insults and at the same time implying I'M a baby? Good grief..

 

[StormLightningSL]

My take-away is this:

Lossless Scaling is supposed to increase the FPS of an older (and sometimes current) game by using scaling tech in software on the CPU+GPU. But, it's actually reducing the FPS, and still people are paying for it on Steam.

So, am I understanding this correctly?

 

[x4it3n]

My take-away is this:

Lossless Scaling is supposed to increase the FPS of an older (and sometimes current) game by using scaling tech in software on the CPU+GPU. But, it's actually reducing the FPS, and still people are paying for it on Steam.

So, am I understanding this correctly?

Yes Lossless Scaling has a pretty big performance hit (about 30%). But it works on all GPUs and can allow you to get a "smoother experience" even though it's not as good as Nvidia FG and adds more Input Lag & Latency. But to be fair FG & MFG are not perfect either!

DLSS v4 is a lot better than the v3 so far! I've tried it on my 4090 and the visual upgrade is pretty huge.