RTX 5080 - premature review - it sucks

[sepheronx]

That part seems correct

 

[JustBenching]

Killzone. And Killzone 3 on the PS3. Absolutely graphical marvels for that hardware.

Going on about Guerilla, I think Horizon made a mark too for the PS4. And it took quite awhile for it to appear on the PC, and we agree it was an excellent port - definitely performance wise - but the base performance is PS4 exclusive.

How can kill zone be unoptimized for pc since it is a ps exclusive? I think you are missing what the discussion was about.

 

[Vayra86]

How can kill zone be unoptimized for pc since it is a ps exclusive? I think you are missing what the discussion was about.

Look at PC games from that era with similar hardware running similar shooters, its not hard, you're evading the point. The only reason you don't see more recent games like that on the PS4/5 that are usually directly ported is because they're built not with a console limitation in mind, but adapted to it. There is no economical sense in putting massive effort in the console performance just so you can raise a slider from medium to high. Its not a matter of can't do, its a matter of 'won't do'.

I also gave you the Horizon example. Ported much later. Designed PS4 first.

 

[JustBenching]

Look at PC games from that era with similar hardware running similar shooters, its not hard, you're evading the point. The only reason you don't see more recent games like that on the PS4/5 that are usually directly ported is because they're built not with a console limitation in mind, but adapted to it. There is no economical sense in putting massive effort in the console performance just so you can raise a slider from medium to high. Its not a matter of can't do, its a matter of 'won't do'.

I also gave you the Horizon example. Ported much later. Designed PS4 first.

I still think you are missing what the discussion was about. I said those games that are unoptimized on PC are also unoptimized on consoles. They are just unoptimized full stop, pc has nothing to do with it. Jedi, golum, forspoken and the likes run like crap everywhere.

 

[Vayra86]

I still think you are missing what the discussion was about. I said those games that are unoptimized on PC are also unoptimized on consoles. They are just unoptimized full stop, pc has nothing to do with it. Jedi, golum, forspoken and the likes run like crap everywhere.

Yes, that is true for this gen of games, and I'm not denying that either, but showing you a bigger picture.

We saw something similar with the era of meh console ports during PS3. Except now the overall thing seems much more problematic. But that's true for a selection of games. There will always be shitty games. And they're shitty everywhere no surprise...

 

[tpuuser256]

It sucks - for the price.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Oh and that graph is from "influencer", from the OPs post right above yours.

Influencer or not, that graph isn't wrong.. The numbers line up.

 

[sepheronx]

How can kill zone be unoptimized for pc since it is a ps exclusive? I think you are missing what the discussion was about.

No, his point stands, somewhat.

Killzone 2 is an example of a beautiful looking game, running on what is a very inefficient cell processor structure and obviously outdated GPU. Yet, with optimization, it looks great and runs sufficient.

Something like that is, for the most part, dead. I can't really think of a well optimized game these days. Maybe Doom series and new Indiana Jones maybe.