I dont like my new CPU Cooler

[Bill_Bright]

you can always put some mesh (insect) screen behind front panel and secure with tape/hot glue.

Yes, but that's Mickey Mouse. And even fine mesh for "noseeums" will let a lot of house dust through.

As I mentioned before, I am more for function and practicality than I am for aesthetics in the form of flashing lights and fancy facades. But I don't want ugly, shabby, or amateurish either.

While screen mesh may be functional and practical for removing dust, I don't see how it would look professional. And for sure, I don't see how taping, or especially gluing, would make using screen mesh practical (or easy) when it comes to cleaning it.

Air filters, by design, should always trap particles yet, ideally, let air flow through unrestricted - at least until the filter gets clogged full of trapped dust and dirt.

But the Corsair filters I had, even when new and clean, were very restrictive from the start, and went downhill from there.

I get there's a fine balance between trapping particles and the free flow of air. But when the filters are being used on a "cooling" system essential to keep heat sensitive electronics properly cooled, and those filters significant hinder proper cooling, that balancing act failed.

 

[AusWolf]

But the Corsair filters I had, even when new and clean, were very restrictive from the start, and went downhill from there.

My filters were just plastic screens with very tiny holes drilled into them. Combine that with a glass front, and you have zero airflow as a result.

I get there's a fine balance between trapping particles and the free flow of air. But when the filters are being used on a "cooling" system essential to keep heat sensitive electronics properly cooled, and those filters significant hinder proper cooling, that balancing act failed.

I'd say cleaning your PC out once every couple of months shouldn't be a problem for any tech lover.

 

[Chomiq]

My filters were just plastic screens with very tiny holes drilled into them. Combine that with a glass front, and you have zero airflow as a result.


I'd say cleaning your PC out once every couple of months shouldn't be a problem for any tech lover.

Cleaning front filter is a weekly routine for me.

 

[Waldorf]

@Chomiq
gee, you live next to a truck stop?
maybe get an aircleaner. lowered it for me from every other month to half a year.

 

[Chomiq]

@Chomiq
gee, you live next to a truck stop?
maybe get an aircleaner. lowered it for me from every other month to half a year.

Not truck stop, chemical plant.

 

[Melvis]

Put it under your desk so you cant see it! problem solved

 

[Waldorf]

@Chomiq
then get one with activated charcoal filter to remove them..
just check it has a washable prefilter, and if possible, the carbon filter being separate (not an all in one filter), this way you can put it out in the sun for recharging it.

airfilter

2nd

 

[AsRock]

OP as for your cooler, yeah i don't like it either as i dislike the plastic crap HAHA, how ever if it's doing a good enough job deal with it and move on.

@Chomiq
gee, you live next to a truck stop?
maybe get an aircleaner. lowered it for me from every other month to half a year.

Depends on what kinda of are you live in, for my self it's a monthly thing to do simply because we live near a river. All so depends if you use a air conditioner too.

Thankfully the Torrent case makes it really easy.

 

[Waldorf]

@AsRock
not really if its whole house AC.
you can easily add merv 10-13 filters to your furnace, just a matter of matching it with the system.
on split/room systems you might not able to find the same grade, but even a basic non-woven fabric from online shops will improve it.

 

[AsRock]

@AsRock
not really if its whole house AC.
you can easily add merv 10-13 filters to your furnace, just a matter of matching it with the system.
on split/room systems you might not able to find the same grade, but even a basic non-woven fabric from online shops will improve it.

Hot house verses cold house or cool even will allow you too have the fans spin slower. But anyways any kind of cooling in the house will help a air con was just a example.

More air restriction equals less air flow in the end if your house is hitting temps of 29c-35c you are going to need great air flow.

 

[Waldorf]

sure, but that hasnt much to do with cooling/heating, but with the wrong setup/install/filter chosen.
many outside of N.A. dont even use HVAC/furnace for temp control of apartment/house, e.g. radiator heating (hot water), doesnt need a single fan,
or fridges, that until recently, didnt have a fan to work properly.
you can easily use a 5in MERV 12/13, and have better flow than a 1in MERV 10.

there is a reason why computers in a clean room/bio lab/server farm/high risk hospital areas wont need any dusting for maintenance, its because the air is clean.
i rather have an "airfilter" (of some sort) treating all air inside so i have cleaner air to breath/less dust in the house, than try to reduce dust in my case by things like overpressure/special mesh.

 

[r.h.p]

Thanks for the reply's so ill give a overall summary. The Cooler is doing its Job but i dont like the look of if. So i will change it .Many comments have agreed with me and thats what i was looking for, uno a second opinion so to speek. To all the peeps out there who say they are not into rgb i reckon they had or have case windows ....so what were they for? when Case Windows came out it was the start of a new hardware enthusiast type of people who weren't just into pcs but the look of their components Inside lol. Oh, c'mon don't tell me the first gpu s or mobos with the RGB and Geforce/Radeon shit wasnt cool looking . Some comments say people just keep there black box under there desk and dont care about what people think and so be it because that's not what my original post was about. Should i get a Water cooled Cpu cooler with a radiator and 3 RGB fans or go back to the Wraith prism or Stay with the Brick tower cooler?? And there is also the point about keeping the 5700X3D cool which has yet to be talked about ....I chose the TT cooler to do this .........

 

[Bill_Bright]

I'd say cleaning your PC out once every couple of months shouldn't be a problem for any tech lover.

I disagree. While the desire to keep the interior of the computers clean will likely be there for any tech lover, that does not mean cleaning is an easy, no-problem task - by any means.

Computers are big, heavy, unforgiving metal boxes, with lots of cables attached, in back, often difficult to reach. Computers are often located in cubby-hole compartments.

One should never clean the interior of a computer without first disconnecting power to it.

One should never "blow out" the interior of a computer inside the house. It makes no sense to blow that stuff back into the air where it will be sucked back into the computer, not to mention our lungs.

One should never use a vacuum cleaner to clean the interior of a computer unless they are VERY aware of the hazards of ESD and take the essential prevention precautions. Air and dust particles slamming into the nozzle end can easily generate many 10s of 1000s of volts of static electricity that might then be discharged through and destroy ESD sensitive devices like CPUs, GPUs, RAM modules and more - all without us mere humans even being aware a static discharge even occurred.

It is essential to note a ESD (electrostatic discharge) can easily torch a Grand Canyon sized trench (microscopically speaking) through millions of transistor gates, and still be so tiny we humans cannot see, feel, or hear that a discharge (zap!) even occurred.

We only use a vacuum here if it is raining sideways outside. And then we take extreme caution to avoid the nozzle from getting too close to anything that might be ESD sensitive - then use a soft "natural" bristle (never synthetic) brush to gently brush the dust towards the nozzle end.

This means to properly clean a PC, one should break it down (unplug all cables), lug it outside and blast it out with compressed air. Those cans of dusting gas work, but can get expensive and don't have much force behind them. Plus, they do NOT contain "air" but instead hazardous refrigerants like difluoroethane that should not be inhaled.

Alternatively most professional electronics repair facilities use compressed air from an air compressor. This is what we do here. HOWEVER, one should always, as in EVERY SINGLE TIME - use a inline moisture and particulate filter when cleaning electronics (or air-brush painting birthday cakes or faces).

And never see how fast you can make a fan spin - you can easily exceed design limits and damage the bearings (I use wooden glue/Popsicle sticks to hold the blades stationary).

In any case, this is not walk in the park to properly clean the interior of a PC - especially if lugging a big, heavy metal box outdoors is physically challenging, as it is for many. Just another reason to make sure all cases in the future have good, removable, washable filters.

i rather have an "airfilter" (of some sort) treating all air inside so i have cleaner air to breath/less dust in the house, than try to reduce dust in my case by things like overpressure/special mesh.

And if that works for you, then that is great. But for many others, it is not that easy.

I agree a good (and clean) whole house filter will greatly reduce dust build-up in a home. But there are many other variables involved.

The number of animals (human and 4 legged) in the home shedding dander and hair makes a HUGE difference in the amount of house dust being created. Most of that falls to the floor where walking and running stirs it up, ready to be drawn into computer cases by the fans.​

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The number of people and pets affect how often the exterior doors are opened (letting dust in).​

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The climate in your area dictates whether or not you open your windows, and for how long.​

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The hours per day your computer fans are running is a factor.​

There are many more factors that may or may not affect others.

As for over (positive) air pressor inside the case, that is still desirable "IF" you have air filters on your case. A "slight" over pressure helps ensure that vast majority of air being drawn into the case goes through the filters. If there is a negative (under) pressure, even a slight one, the fans will create a vacuum, suction inside the case and that will draw air (and any dust it contains) in through every crack and crevice in the case, including through unused ports and slots in the case and the motherboard's back panel ports too.

 

[AusWolf]

I disagree. While the desire to keep the interior of the computers clean will likely be there for any tech lover, that does not mean cleaning is an easy, no-problem task - by any means.

Computers are big, heavy, unforgiving metal boxes, with lots of cables attached, in back, often difficult to reach. Computers are often located in cubby-hole compartments.

One should never clean the interior of a computer without first disconnecting power to it.

One should never "blow out" the interior of a computer inside the house. It makes no sense to blow that stuff back into the air where it will be sucked back into the computer, not to mention our lungs.

One should never use a vacuum cleaner to clean the interior of a computer unless they are VERY aware of the hazards of ESD and take the essential prevention precautions. Air and dust particles slamming into the nozzle end can easily generate many 10s of 1000s of volts of static electricity that might then be discharged through and destroy ESD sensitive devices like CPUs, GPUs, RAM modules and more - all without us mere humans even being aware a static discharge even occurred.

It is essential to note a ESD (electrostatic discharge) can easily torch a Grand Canyon sized trench (microscopically speaking) through millions of transistor gates, and still be so tiny we humans cannot see, feel, or hear that a discharge (zap!) even occurred.

We only use a vacuum here if it is raining sideways outside. And then we take extreme caution to avoid the nozzle from getting too close to anything that might be ESD sensitive - then use a soft "natural" bristle (never synthetic) brush to gently brush the dust towards the nozzle end.

This means to properly clean a PC, one should break it down (unplug all cables), lug it outside and blast it out with compressed air. Those cans of dusting gas work, but can get expensive and don't have much force behind them. Plus, they do NOT contain "air" but instead hazardous refrigerants like difluoroethane that should not be inhaled.

Alternatively most professional electronics repair facilities use compressed air from an air compressor. This is what we do here. HOWEVER, one should always, as in EVERY SINGLE TIME - use a inline moisture and particulate filter when cleaning electronics (or air-brush painting birthday cakes or faces).

And never see how fast you can make a fan spin - you can easily exceed design limits and damage the bearings (I use wooden glue/Popsicle sticks to hold the blades stationary).

In any case, this is not walk in the park to properly clean the interior of a PC - especially if lugging a big, heavy metal box outdoors is physically challenging, as it is for many. Just another reason to make sure all cases in the future have good, removable, washable filters.

I do not think you need to go into that much trouble as long as you regularly maintain a good clean condition. I mean, disconnecting from the mains, and blowing it out with compressed air is not a problem to do away with a few dust particles that got into your PC in the last few weeks or months (depending on how dusty the area where you live is). But if you leave it for years, and you get dust bunnies / the dust gets caked onto the components, then you won't have a choice but to take it apart and do all that you wrote above.

 

[Bill_Bright]

I mean, disconnecting from the mains, and blowing it out with compressed air is not a problem

I know it was long but clearly you didn't take a moment read AND UNDERSTAND what I said in my last post, even though you quoted it.

For example, I didn't say, suggest or even imply any user cleaning their computer would EVER need to "take it apart".

It is fortunate you find it such a piece of cake to clean out the interior of your PC. But it is naïve of you to assume it "is not a problem" for everyone else.

 

[AusWolf]

I know it was long but clearly you didn't take a moment read AND UNDERSTAND what I said in my last post, even though you quoted it.

For example, I didn't say, suggest or even imply any user cleaning their computer would EVER need to "take it apart".

It is fortunate you find it such a piece of cake to clean out the interior of your PC. But it is naïve of you to assume it "is not a problem" for everyone else.

I mean, is the 5-minute job of taking the side panel off and blowing the internals out with some compressed air such great trouble for people?

By the way, you didn't read my first post entirely, either. I was talking about tech-oriented people, not the "just give me your cheapest browsing machine" kind.

 

[Bill_Bright]

You just don't get it. Take your blinkers off, okay?

Unlike you, I did read your post. You said "tech lover". Guess what? People do NOT need to be "tech oriented" to love (or buy) high tech stuff.

But I don't care who you were talking about. It does not matter. The interior will get dusty regardless. I never suggested someone needed advanced technical skills. They don't. At worse, they might need a #2 Philips screwdriver - IF their case's side panel does not use thumbscrews.

ONCE AGAIN - here is the point:

It is stupid to blow out the dust inside the house. This means taking the computer outside. An EMPTY mid tower case could easily weigh 15 to 20 pounds or more. Start adding a heavy power supply, motherboard, fans, RAM, heatsink/cooler, drives (especially hard drives), expansion cards and the computer could easily hit 25 - 30lbs or more. And it is not like the case has a convenient carrying handle. No, it is a big, bulky, 30lb box one has to deal with while opening and going through doors (doors that may want to close on them) and perhaps climbing up and down stairs carrying this big, bulky, 30lb box.

Like I said above, and once again, you quoted me but apparently just don't get,

It is fortunate you find it such a piece of cake to clean out the interior of your PC. But it is naïve of you to assume it "is not a problem" for everyone else.

 

[r.h.p]

So when are you changing it?

im not with that machine at the moment, but when i get back i will look into which way i wil move forward . This thread has gotten a bit out of control imo

 

[AusWolf]

You just don't get it. Take your blinkers off, okay?

Unlike you, I did read your post. You said "tech lover". Guess what? People do NOT need to be "tech oriented" to love (or buy) high tech stuff.

You're arguing about semantics. Tech lover, tech oriented, tech geek, whatever, who cares?

But I don't care who you were talking about. It does not matter. The interior will get dusty regardless. I never suggested someone needed advanced technical skills. They don't. At worse, they might need a #2 Philips screwdriver - IF their case's side panel does not use thumbscrews.

ONCE AGAIN - here is the point:

It is stupid to blow out the dust inside the house. This means taking the computer outside. An EMPTY mid tower case could easily weigh 15 to 20 pounds or more. Start adding a heavy power supply, motherboard, fans, RAM, heatsink/cooler, drives (especially hard drives), expansion cards and the computer could easily hit 25 - 30lbs or more. And it is not like the case has a convenient carrying handle. No, it is a big, bulky, 30lb box one has to deal with while opening and going through doors (doors that may want to close on them) and perhaps climbing up and down stairs carrying this big, bulky, 30lb box.

Like I said above, and once again, you quoted me but apparently just don't get,

Well, blowing the dust out indoors is still better than not blowing it out at all.

 

[eidairaman1]

im not with that machine at the moment, but when i get back i will look into which way i wil move forward . This thread has gotten a bit out of control imo

Probably would be good to shut it down since you have your answer