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Will you buy a RTX 5090?

Will you buy a RTX 5090

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • No

    Votes: 17 28.3%
  • Will not buy any RTX 50 Series

    Votes: 30 50.0%

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Everything you wrote is true - another component is that nvidia are somewhat successful in making an apple-esque ecosystem, where you NEED nvidia for the juicy features.

That's why all the nvidia proprietary solutions were always going to be bad for consumers in the longterm - and nvidia are obviously banking on those features securing sales, even if the hardware being sold is VERY lacklustre.
You hit the nail on the head.

Gsync, dlss, it wasn't about making proprietary tech to improve user experience, it was about taking the race where the competition, amd at the time, could not follow. Turing/ 1st gen raytracing/DLSS sucked but marketing and getting youtube channels to gush over it's iterations was key to securing market share away from AMD.
 
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I don't doubt that the development is cheaper that way, but the gaming gpu's could have been alot better for gaming, had that been the focus on the development, rather than AI. Im thinking we could potentially have had gpu's with the same gaming performance as a 5070, but at a 150w budget, like with 1070 prior to all the rt and tensor fluff being added.

There are a lot of gamers who think MFG is actually extra performance so why invest into a secondary arch lmao.
 
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You hit the nail on the head.

Gsync, dlss, it wasn't about making proprietary tech to improve user experience, it was about taking the race where the competition, amd at the time, could not follow. Turing/ 1st gen raytracing/DLSS sucked but marketing and getting youtube channels to gush over it's iterations was key to securing market share away from AMD.

AMD hasn't helped itself at any turn either. Since RX Vega they haven't lost a single opportunity to lose an opportunity. And their diehard fans finish the job with their lies and deceit, many of which they have come to believe themselves. After all, I was told in this very forum that "GPU compute does not matter" for 2025 GPUs.

 
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AMD hasn't helped itself at any turn either. Since RX Vega they haven't lost a single opportunity to lose an opportunity. And their diehard fans finish the job with their lies and deceit, many of which they have come to believe themselves. After all, I was told in this very forum that "GPU compute does not matter" for 2025 GPUs.



We don't even know that yet it could be. It's currently battling with Turing for that honor at least for the last decade... The ever at the end probably isn't accurate though I'm sure we've had a worse generation than this I just can't remember them

I'm just talking performance uplifts at each tier ofc.
 
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We don't even know that yet it could be. It's currently battling with Turing for that honor at least for the last decade... The ever at the end probably isn't accurate though I'm sure we've had a worse generation than this I just can't remember them

I'm just talking performance uplifts at each tier ofc.

That's not how I personally look at things. More performance is a good thing, but we've had enough performance to make excellent games for a very long time now. Blackwell represents the perfect union of powerful hardware backed by a strong, reliable software ecosystem which, to me, largely justifies its price tag. Turing placed extreme emphasis on a newer feature set in an age where the software to back it up simply did not exist, and this technology came at a very high price - and the fact remains that commercial software developers must always cater to the lowest common denominator, which is almost always Radeon and largely due to their drivers, not because of their hardware. That made the investment in the RTX 20 series early on something that had pretty much only futureproofing as a justification, and we all know how flimsy that justification is - there is no future proofing in this business.

I'd like to make a parallel to Nintendo again. Hiroshi Yamauchi had always believed that powerful hardware without quality software (read: games) is worthless, as that is what owners of hardware will ultimately be interacting with. He believed that great games were first and foremost created by artists. This mantra is what made the Famicom the powerhouse it was, eventually being infused in the very DNA of the Super Famicom and indeed, every Nintendo console to date. Today, many would argue that this is what defines Nintendo, and I'd fundamentally agree. Just look at the Switch, and even the upcoming Switch 2: by modern standards, the hardware is bad. Like, laughably bad. But the software is great! Its games are awesome. Creative, interesting, and in many instances, even original.

Now, hear me out, this is why I brought that up: By software, Yamauchi obviously referred to the games that would run on their machines. My argument is that in the modern age, where software (as in, productivity suites and bespoke video games) heavily relies upon another layer of a support software (such as drivers, standardized APIs and abstraction layers such as DirectX, CUDA, etc.), the importance of a robust, strong ecosystem has become just as important as the software itself. Modern computers are no longer programmed to the bare metal.

This has always been my first and foremost frustration with AMD, they invest the absolute barest minimum to make whatever's currently on the market work on their video cards. It's not uncommon to find bug fixes for games that are years old on Radeon changelogs, because stuff has always been broken and many didn't even know about it. You know why I paid this mountain of cash on an RTX 5090? Because it supports EVERYTHING. It doesn't matter if the software I am trying to run is new or old. If it's state of the art, futuristic stuff, or a crufty old Direct3D 7 game from the 1990's. It works. I want to run video editing software? It's going to work with EVERYTHING. And it's going to demolish anything in its path with its raw performance while at it. Do I want to run any sort of generic program on my graphics card? I will have all 104+ TFLOPS of its compute power available, with a runtime for a compute language that is concise, well-documented, well-supported and more importantly, IT JUST WORKS.

Combined, all of these Nvidia technologies not only enable games that are great and boring, new and old alike to be played, but also be developed, tinkered, and modified with confidence, always with an emphasis and focus on the user experience, without neglecting the developer side. The only other company which has more or less mastered this in the tech world happens to be Apple. To me, the value provided by having years upon years of driver support (Release 570 drivers offer support for GPUs spanning over 11 years!), rapid response to any issues that occur and solid, well-developed features both under and over the hood is something that presently, and for the foreseeable future, AMD couldn't hope to match, especially not as long as all they got is their ad-ridden CCC2 "Radepn Software" and second rate, often poorly documented clones of Nvidia features for show.

I don't have to swap driver versions like a t-shirt. I don't get the backseat to any experiences, new or old. I don't have to beg any developers for fixes, when an issue is found Nvidia usually has a hotfix available within 48 hours to a week. To me, this is worth whatever price they ask, and if I can't afford the uppermost model, I'll just buy a lower end one.
 
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AMD hasn't helped itself at any turn either. Since RX Vega they haven't lost a single opportunity to lose an opportunity. And their diehard fans finish the job with their lies and deceit, many of which they have come to believe themselves. After all, I was told in this very forum that "GPU compute does not matter" for 2025 GPUs.

If you have something to say about 5090, do it, don't try to involve others in AMD vs Nvidia here :)
 
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If you have something to say about 5090, do it, don't try to involve others in AMD vs Nvidia here :)

That's by no means the intent of that post. Just read the one that it was replying to.

You know it really sucks, I spent a long time writing that post which pretty much delineates my entire train of thought and how I see things, why I not only meant to but did buy an RTX 5090, anyone who reads that post would understand how I think and how I see the GPU landscape in detail, from how I perceive the experiences from the community to the technical side, but it just gets a "haha" and a dismissal :(
 
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Mass psychosis in this thread.

Correct me if I'm wrong, you were the one who were complaining that I don't justify myself in a recent thread. Then read my psychosis and counter-argue it.
 
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Hard pass. Way too expensive and not enough improvement over my 4090.

Pretty clear that Nvidia much prefers seling their product in the more profitable AI market.
First time in 20 years that I will not upgrade my video card following the release of a new generation.
 

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I agree its too expensive, even before the insane overhead, i still want to upgrade to it though from my 3080 10GB, the 10GB is a bottleneck for my modded games, skyrim 4 and 8k mods and 15 follower mod just brings it to its knees
 
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Will you post a few pics of the card?

F*-me, this card is HUGE!
I am beginning to have serious concerns, that it will not fit in my case.

It is going to look soooo tiny, once I have the water block on :laugh:

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I am sure I will take some pictures when I strip her for the waterblock in a few weeks ;)



To interject into the larger conversation.

Nvidia's pricing is insane, and their performance uplifts (aside from the RTX 5090 @ 4K+) are laughable.
I understand, from a business perspective, that gamers are bottom of the ladder, but it is still quite disrespectful.
Really, they should be making consumer GPUs on a trailing node, so they are not competing for capacity with their cash-cow products.
But, I doubt they would ever do that, as it would give their competition a realistic chance to compete...

To be honest, I was neither planning, nor expecting, to buy a 5090.
Instead, I was (and still am!) excited by some of the RX 9070 XT rumors, and was/am really looking forward to that release.
For 99.7% of consumers, I would never recommend supporting nVidia's business model with these prices, and would cautiously recommend that any buyers wait to get a reasonably priced AMD card in a few months (pending retail availability, pricing, and reviews).

Sure, if you have the disposable income, go for it and get the halo!
Otherwise, why obsess with "the best", when you are only supporting a business model that is taking maximum advantage of you.
Just spend your time enjoying whatever you have, or can safely afford, rather than stressing yourself about what you could have.

In the end though, after spending all last year dealing with ongoing health issues, I decided to try my luck for a launch day GPU, 100% expecting to not get one.
Definitely not a wale (this GPU painfully set me back well over a months pay o_O), or a hopeless fanboy, but I am also not going to waste my time stressing about the costs, and will try to enjoy my luck, as best I can!
 
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I don't agree with the idea of if you have the income, then why not buy the best. But you seem like of the only sane xx90 owners I have ever read a post from. I won't need to filter you.

The consequences of buying one of these insanely priced cards has a HALO effect on the cards below it. On one hand, you rightly call out the business tactic, but on the other hand you buy it. Nonetheless, enjoy your toy, and I mean that.
 

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The beginning of being decent is judging your own actions, letting others judge them before sitting down as judge in front of others. So, allow me to present:
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Does that not move the goal posts? As I see it, this was a laughable decision, far more than any other GPU purchase. 4090 might have been more expensive but I cannot escape the conclusion that it a better value purchase by far compared to what I did 6 years ago.
 

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The beginning of being decent is judging your own actions, letting others judge them before sitting down as judge in front of others. So, allow me to present: View attachment 382947

Does that not move the goal posts? As I see it, this was a laughable decision, far more than any other GPU purchase. 4090 might have been more expensive but I cannot escape the conclusion that it a better value purchase by far compared to what I did 6 years ago.
Hey man i totally understand xD
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I agree its too expensive, even before the insane overhead, i still want to upgrade to it though from my 3080 10GB, the 10GB is a bottleneck for my modded games, skyrim 4 and 8k mods and 15 follower mod just brings it to its knees

That's the thing that hurts the most with only having one option and no real competition you've waited for the 50 series and it's kind of meh but what other options do you have waiting another 2 years sucks and sure you can wait another year hoping for a Super refresh but that also sucks. When people have waited 4+ years for a new generation and they have only 1 gpu maker option to get a meaningful improvement this is what we get.

I don't even care about what they want to charge I would rather have a 1200 usd 5080 that came with an actual generational improvements over a side grade over what we've had for the last 2 years.... The 5090 is whatever it does what it needs to do giving More vram and decent enough performance at 4k sure 2k+ sucks but that's just the price of having the best of anything value isn't all that important... I do wish it offered a more meaningful improvement over the 4090 though.

This generation doesn't really move the ball forward though you still need to kill your latency generating a ton more frames to use path tracing and even heavy RT crumbles on anything below the 2k flagship even path tracing with all the tricks is barely fast enough on the 5090 prior to kicking on frame gen to not have a console like experience latency wise and that is the real shame the sad thing is that is running a 4 year old game at this point...

When the generation defining feature makes latency and image quality worse and gamers gobble it up like Apple pie à la mode you know Nvidia has won.


That being said expensive hardware that offers minor generational improvements isn't even the biggest issue in gaming it's that we get at most a couple games worth a shite every year and even less that I would classify that even push the boundaries visually the only thing developers seem to want to do is use all these technologies Nvidia provide as a crutch instead of using them to make a game meaningfully better.
 

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Just need to vent a little. A 4090 FE just popped up for sale on a forum similar to this one. The gentleman is asking $1800 plus shipping and paypal fees. It's against the forum rules to argue pricing so I refrained from doing so. But I need to get this train of thought of my chest:
So, you bought the 4090 at launch, for MSRP, (ab)used the GPU for two years, you've registered the gpu to claim a game voucher and in the process of doing so, you ensured that your buyer will not covered by it's warranty, on a GPU that has been known to have issues with the power delivery AND YOU STILL WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT??? What a creative way to bring EVGA's step up program back to life but only for yourself...

How does that relate to this thread? Well, that's why I'll buy a 5090!
I've gone back and thanked every seller that was reasonable, even though I missed out on their sale. Just because they were reasonable.

What kind of a human being would I be if I were to put up my 2080ti for sale, that's realistically worth ~$250 and say "I am the current nr1. record holder in all of the 5 3dmark demo tests, therefore I price this at, uhmmm, $750???
 
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I won't be upgrading, there's no need for it and I don't have any desire to swap to Team Green. And the general consensus in my friends group is the same, they're all aiming for the AMD offerings because they're more friendly to the wallet.

Oh actually, my boss is aiming to get a 5090. His first attempt to order one wasn't successful due to the stock shortages.
 

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Well, I can't find one down under atm. BS launch..

I can't remember a launch this bad. I was even able to get cards when the crypto boom was going full swing. This seems worse. What gives???
 
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Well, I can't find one down under atm. BS launch..

I can't remember a launch this bad. I was even able to get cards when the crypto boom was going full swing. This seems worse. What gives???

Hopefully stock picks up in a couple months... Who knows with all the crazy stuff going on in the world right now.
 

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Hopefully stock picks up in a couple months... Who knows with all the crazy stuff going on in the world right now.

Yeah, looks like we will all have to be patient which is cool by me but honestly what's the deal with no stock. They had months of prep.

We all had to wait for a 5 series launch from months ago when we first heard about them getting release back in November (possibly earlier) to absolutely no stock. Pretty shit setup Nvidia..
 
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Yeah, looks like we will all have to be patient which is cool by me but honestly what's the deal with no stock. They had months of prep.

We all had to wait for a 5 series launch from months ago when we first heard about them getting release back in November (possibly earlier) to absolutely no stock. Pretty shit setup Nvidia..

Likely 90%+ or more of the silicon being diverted to B100/200 we have to remember they are sold out of those indefinitely basically just filling orders.
 
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Hopefully stock picks up in a couple months... Who knows with all the crazy stuff going on in the world right now.
I've been told 3-16 weeks for 5090 & 2-6 for 5080 by my PC parts retailer of choice in the UK
 

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I've been told 3-16 weeks for 5090 & 2-6 for 5080 by my PC parts retailer of choice in the UK

This is what my local retailer says:

Limit 1 per household
This product is not available to buy online or instore.
This product is not available to order

Pretty much impossible to buy them. Why even advertise them lol
I've got a feeling they are keeping them for system builds for the time being.
 
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This is what my local retailer says:

Limit 1 per household
This product is not available to buy online or instore.
This product is not available to order

Pretty much impossible to buy them. Why even advertise them lol
I've got a feeling they are keeping them for system builds for the time being.

This, my friend who is a manager at a certain store confirmed I was only able to get a card today due to me buying 2x PC's from them recently which constitutes CPU, MB, RAM, PSU.
 
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