RTX 5080 - premature review - it sucks

[wolf]

Speaking of price, that's another reason why I wouldn't buy a 5080 right now. When a company releases a cut-down GPU for $1200, then the full version of the same die for $200 less a year later, they lose all credibility regarding the justification of their prices in my eyes. I'm pretty sure lots of GB202 and 203 chips are being held back for the Super cards coming next year, hence the "shortage".

That being said This card isn't meant for 4080 users it's squarely aimed at you 3080 buyers.

The crappy thing is you could have gotten most of that performance increase 1-2 years ago......

The markets just so cooked right now, I can get riled up about it and decide to buy something, or not. Inflation is cooked, parts costs are cooked, but it is what it is. I am after an uplift over my 3080 which the 5080 would give. Hindsight is 20 20 right, knowing what I know now, I probably would have upgraded even sooner. Ahh well.

 

[JustBenching]

Not just more cache, but lower clock speed as well. It's made for an entirely different purpose in mind. You can't say the same about the 4080 and 4080S.


Then why are you skipping a card that was actually a much better value? Why only compare to the worse one?


Because AMD gave you similar raster performance for $200 less.


Not having any competition (yet) doesn't justify what we see here.

The 4080 was a great value card cause it gave you vastly more rt performance than the competition. See I can play that game too. All of that spinning just to avoid comparing the 5080 to the 4080. Man.. come on.

 

[Hecate91]

Not having any competition (yet) doesn't justify what we see here.

This. And I'm not even sure why the competition needs to be brought up, Nvidia doesn't care what AMD does neither do most people buying a GPU.
The 4080 was a terrible value comparing it to the $700 MSRP 3080, even comparing the 4080 to the 5080 it isn't the sort of uplift anyone should be expecting. It really is sad to to see people going "uuh actually it's 16% faster" basically applauding the same sort of stagnation that Intel did for years.

 

[AusWolf]

The 4080 was a great value card cause it gave you vastly more rt performance than the competition. See I can play that game too. All of that spinning just to avoid comparing the 5080 to the 4080. Man.. come on.

Ah the RT argument! Because if a card can do RT, it's worth infinite money, obviously.

I still don't know why on earth you'd exclude the better value card that came at the same price as the 5080 from the comparison against the 5080 itself besides desperately trying to show Nvidia in a slightly better light. See? I can play your game, too.

The markets just so cooked right now, I can get riled up about it and decide to buy something, or not. Inflation is cooked, parts costs are cooked, but it is what it is. I am after an uplift over my 3080 which the 5080 would give. Hindsight is 20 20 right, knowing what I know now, I probably would have upgraded even sooner. Ahh well.

The market being cooked doesn't mean we shouldn't try to uncook it by voting with our wallets, or at least voicing our opinion. We are the market, after all.

 

[wolf]

The market being cooked doesn't mean we shouldn't try to uncook it by voting with our wallets, or at least voicing our opinion. We are the market, after all.

Of all the things I can effect, the global GPU market isn't one of them imo. This is a situation where I'll do what I need to do for myself and my own needs. I try in multiple other areas to effect community change, help people, give back etc. I work in public service too and thoroughly enjoy contributing.

I can certainly voice my opinion that the uplift is underwhelming over a 4080, and give friends and family bespoke purchase advice, but when the moment comes to choose what I want to replace my 3080 with, which will be soon as I'm not keen to wait 6, 12 maybe even more months for refreshes etc, I'll choose from what's available and pay what I'm comfortable with for a product I want.

 

[Dragam1337]

The other option I guess is to look at the mid-low end and used GPU market.

RTX 3060 is a solid GPU and really just overall good for 1080p and 1440p. I have a few of them. RTX 3070 used can also be really good for mid 1440p. I know some will disagree because of 8gb but the 8gb limit isn't really all that limiting unless trying to play on high/ultra and that isn't gonna happen with a 3070 anyway or the 3060 with more vram. If you snag a 3080 12gb for decent price then thats awesome. AMD side, the 6800/XT and 6700XT are fantastic still.

Problem is, that isn't new. Buying new right now feels like a scam. Intel would have had it right if it wasn't for their driver overhead issues with slower CPU's.

Not only is 3060 not new, it's 4 years old. It's buying a product you have no idea how long have left - it could die literally the next day.

 

[JustBenching]

Ah the RT argument! Because if a card can do RT, it's worth infinite money, obviously.

I still don't know why on earth you'd exclude the better value card that came at the same price as the 5080 from the comparison against the 5080 itself besides desperately trying to show Nvidia in a slightly better light. See? I can play your game, too.

If a card can do rt better it's worth more money than one that can't. Self explanatory. A faster gpu is faster and therefore worth more.

Why I'm comparing to the 4080? For the same reason I compared the 4080 to the 3080 and concluded it's crap instead of comparing it to the 3080ti and concluding it's great.

 

[freeagent]

Why the compulsion to spend?

I was speaking hypothetically.