Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX Defeats Core i9-14900HX In Cinebench R23 Multi-Core, While Losing Out in Single-Core

[kondamin]

Why'd you wanna render anything on a Windows laptop

if have the budget for one thing and you need a laptop, you get a laptop and render things on your laptop.
I remember people rendering stuff on desktops that make this generation of laptops seem like a server farm

 

[ScaLibBDP]

Okay, but this is just a consumer processor. Yes, it's not from the Ultra low power consumption series. And yes, I know that workstations are also assembled with consumer processors. But still, when you say HPC, I somehow understand it as supercomputers with many orders of magnitude more productive than a laptop.

It works in a different way.

Many HPC applications designed and developed on regular computers, that is consumer ( ! ) desktops or notebooks. It is too expensive to use big supercomputers for such R&D tasks.

If you look at a list of HPC applications of Exascale Computing Project of the Department of Energy ( for example at Argonne Leadership Computing Facility or Oak Ridge Leadership Computing Facility websites ) you will see more than 50 applications ported to Frontier or Aurora exascale supercomputers from the regular smaller scale versions.

For example, QMC Pack or Gromacs or NAMD applications will be working on your gaming PC however you won't be able to push these applications for really big problems, like let's do a simulation with 1,000,000 atoms or molecules.

The High Performance Computing ( HPC ) covers a lot of different cases, small, medium, big and very-very big in size.

PS: A well known NAMD applcation ( NAnoscale Molecular Dynamics / versions 2.09 and 2.14 ) is installed on three computers around me, on a Dell Mobile Workstation, on an ASUS TUF FX505DU Gaming Notebook, and a desktop with Intel Pentium 4 processor to verify some compatibility issues.

 

[R0H1T]

Most laptops will throttle like an overheating hummer on any decent sized render, except probably MacBooks. This is why it's a pretty bad IMO on Windows even now.

I remember people rendering stuff on desktops that make this generation of laptops seem like a server farm

We'll need to see how Strix Halo works as an actual viable workstation, among Windows machines!

 

[A&P211]

I like soup and my toilet smells funny.

*news to wanted to say, good night

 

[kondamin]

Most laptops will throttle like an overheating hummer on any decent sized render, except probably MacBooks. This is why it's a pretty bad IMO on Windows even now.


We'll need to see how Strix Halo works as an actual viable workstation, among Windows machines

Fairly certain that's an other one of those paper amd products that practically don't make in to peoples hands

 

[Tek-Check]

I still believe it's best to compare a fresh benchmark against the previous generation’s median value, simply because we don't know the exact configuration in question. These leaks should always be taken with a grain of salt, and our performance "leak" articles consistently include similar disclaimers.

True that. And thank you for editing the article, which is now more accurate on the face value. Much appreciated. Taking median number this early gives us comfort of trying to position new CPUs, but it does not bring us closer to truth. We also do not know the power envelope. I's debatable whether median or average is more meaningful here. Both are heavily dependent on the nature of sample. We know that samples are vastly diverse.

For more context, in future articles, it'd be very useful if you could include essential comparison with equivalent AMD CPUs, so that readers have richer picture. This allows for more context, as Intel's HX CPUs typically compete against AMD's Dragon Range and soon Fire Range. Seen from this point of view, 35K score of 275HX comes two years after 34K score of 7945HX, which is ~3% uplift, and most likely with more power, as Turbo Power of 275HX is at 160W in the spec. This would significantly shape your narrative in such articles.

Intel Raptor Lake-HX Refresh analysis - Core i9-14900HX with more single-core performance

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Ultimately, we will know once two very similar or the same laptops are compared.

 

[Raffles]

Um...

Yup..

I think you might have misread..

However...

Because they aren't doing the math properly. This is basic 5th grade math people.

Percentage Increase Calculator

Percentage increase calculator finds the increase from one value to another as a percentage of the first value. Shows you how to find percentage increase with percent increase formula.

www.calculatorsoup.com

To the find the percent increase, first subtract the initial value from the final value. Then take the difference and divide it by the initial value. Finally, multiply this number by 100 to convert the number to a percentage. This final result will represent the percent increase between the two values. So;

35481 - 31854 = 3627
3627 / 31854 = 0.1138632511
0.1138632511 * 100 = 11.38632511

The difference is 11.38% aprox.

EDIT:
All that said. 11.3% is a solid increase gen on gen.

Seems like a strangely convoluted way of doing 35481 / 31854 which results in 1.1138. That is easy enough for anyone to decipher it's an 11.38% increase.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Seems like a strangely convoluted way of doing 35481 / 31854 which results in 1.1138. That is easy enough for anyone to decipher it's an 11.38% increase.

It's the proper way. The short-cut way will work, but in some situations will render an invalid result.

For everyone who reads this, no, I will not explain.

 

[tpuuser256]

We don't know this. This 275HX sample could also be an upper range sample and its median could fall in future too, as different laptops with this chip will perform differently and will have different power budgets, design and cooling performance.

That's why we should never calculate percentages from one single sample with a median from another, as it gives us distorted, false picture, detached from specific devices.


I had several really good teachers who transformed my life. Sorry if you did not have one.

Good for you, but the way education is it's not expected to have good quality teaching. You got lucky I guess...

 

[Raffles]

It's the proper way. The short-cut way will work, but in some situations will render an invalid result.

For everyone who reads this, no, I will not explain.

Give me an example situation

 

[Tek-Check]

Good for you, but the way education is it's not expected to have good quality teaching. You got lucky I guess...

There is no luck if one lives in a country where society cares about education, for example in Finland, Singapore and several other countries.