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Yup, I figured it didn’t last very long. As noted above, keep in mind that the pad will take some time to break in. Just leave it on there and use your PC as normal. Over time it might take another few degrees off after break in. But you should notice that the temperature stays consistent for a given load.
Can't wait to gain another few more degrees man
ps. thanks everyone who had contributed.
 

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Weird, didn't even know that MX-4 has that kind of a pump-out effect. I guess that I'll use different paste in GPUs later (though using already Noctua NT-H2 on my 3080), yet it's still fine for CPUs.
 
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And wanted share with you a strange carving on the HS. I've tried with multiple solvent but had no luck removing it.

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I've also replaced my laptop's thermal paste with pad and the results are better. (LEFT=AFTER, RIGHT=BEFORE)

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That looks to me like squish-out of extra thermal paste upon attaching the cooler. I'd like to hear what someone with experience with pump-out thinks about that.

But I can't argue with your 9C hotspot delta with the new pad, that's top-tier performance!
 

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That paste is brutal, what kind is it so that I never buy it :D

I am running a Heilos pad too, its good stuff.
 
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IMO never open a card you're not financially ready to replace, and honestly the card market is in the trash right now.

If its not having any issues I'd wait until prices stabilize and hopefully drop a bit so if something goes sideways and the card doesn't work when you plug it back in you're not taking a bath on a replacement.

Edit: Glad the repaste/pad worked out!
 

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Weird, didn't even know that MX-4 has that kind of a pump-out effect. I guess that I'll use different paste in GPUs later (though using already Noctua NT-H2 on my 3080), yet it's still fine for CPUs.
Psstt, all thermal pastes do, the last bare die cpu i used paste on was an Athlon XP, I wouldn't dare use it on a gpu die or a bare cpu die today.
 
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To be honest, what amazes me most is how MSI top tier graphics card "suprim" has so trash thermal interface material. I mean why would a brand like this not choose appropriate tim for one of its flagship products especially when it could harm it's reputation.
 

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To be honest, what amazes me most is how MSI top tier graphics card "suprim" has so trash thermal interface material. I mean why a brand like this doesn't choose appropriate tim for one of its flagship products of which will cause bad reputation?
You can't have everything premium... :D

Seriously, would be interesting what kind of TIM AIBs use with their cards in overall.
 
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You can't have everything premium... :D

Seriously, would be interesting what kind of TIM AIBs use with their cards in overall.
I'm really starting to think that they all use the cheapest Tims.

You can't have everything premium... :D

Seriously, would be interesting what kind of TIM AIBs use with their cards in overall.
Hey, btw do you think memory temps are normal? 80c?
 

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Hey, btw do you think memory temps are normal? 80c?
80C is totally fine, mine heats up to 85-90C depending of the game. I'll play some Final Fantasy VII Rebirth later and as it's pretty demanding game, I'll report later how the temps go.
 
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80C is totally fine, mine heats up to 85-90C depending of the game. I'll play some Final Fantasy VII Rebirth later and as it's pretty demanding game, I'll report later how the temps go.
After uncovering the bad quality of tim on the GPU die, maybe it is time to questioning the thermal pad quality also :D
but this is way too much costly since there are multiple thickness type of pads here.
 
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I think a bit too much is made out of pump out etc. I suppose it makes a difference if you're really going for that last 5%, but GPU manufacturers have been slapping on way too much garbage tier thermal paste on their GPUs for decades and these things will easily work for 10+ years if they don't randomly fail out of the box due to some bad component somewhere.
 
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I think a bit too much is made out of pump out etc. I suppose it makes a difference if you're really going for that last 5%, but GPU manufacturers have been slapping on way too much garbage tier thermal paste on their GPUs for decades and these things will easily work for 10+ years if they don't randomly fail out of the box due to some bad component somewhere.
It depends on the shape of the heatsink -- alot of them are imperfect, and the screws put imperfect pressure on the gpu, add to that some thermal expansion and contraction and there you go. So the pump out effect, even if they use PTM 7950 like on the 4090FE is a real thing. I was at 100C hotspot after a few months across 2 different applications. Then just went to kryosheet and never had an issue since then.
 
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It depends on the shape of the heatsink -- alot of them are imperfect, and the screws put imperfect pressure on the gpu, add to that some thermal expansion and contraction and there you go. So the pump out effect, even if they use PTM 7950 like on the 4090FE is a real thing. I was at 100C hotspot after a few months across 2 different applications. Then just went to kryosheet and never had an issue since then.

- But is that really *an issue*. Tens of Millions of GPUs have never had their heatsinks removed since they left the factory and they more or less work fine.

My 980Ti is a relic from a bygone era and it still trucks along just fine with ~80c temps in a cramped Silverstone Sugo SG-03 case and I've never once bothered to repaste it (to some extent because the used GPU market has been perpetually fucked since I got the idea in my head to try, and I don't want a paperweight in one hand and a $400 replacement in the other).

I've repasted plenty of GPUs over the years, pump out always seemed like much ado about not much, one of those marketing terms used to pitch the latest and greatest thermal pads or whatever.

This is not an indictment or attack against those who choose to repaste/apply pads, just an observation of my own.
 
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- But is that really *an issue*. Tens of Millions of GPUs have never had their heatsinks removed since they left the factory and they more or less work fine.

My 980Ti is a relic from a bygone era and it still trucks along just fine with ~80c temps in a cramped Silverstone Sugo SG-03 case and I've never once bothered to repaste it (to some extent because the used GPU market has been perpetually fucked since I got the idea in my head to try, and I don't want a paperweight in one hand and a $400 replacement in the other).

I've repasted plenty of GPUs over the years, pump out always seemed like much ado about not much, one of those marketing terms used to pitch the latest and greatest thermal pads or whatever.

This is not an indictment or attack against those who choose to repaste/apply pads, just an observation of my own.
To your point - of the many cards I’ve had ive only had to repaste 2. Also one laptop that I couldn’t be around.

So it affects a small percentage of cards to the extreme (104c hotspots) but I would be curious to see if the rate isn’t increasing as the dies get hotter.
 

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72C GPU/88C memory/86C hotspot max during gameplay. I have put some noname yet good quality thermalpads to the memory.
 
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- But is that really *an issue*. Tens of Millions of GPUs have never had their heatsinks removed since they left the factory and they more or less work fine.

My 980Ti is a relic from a bygone era and it still trucks along just fine with ~80c temps in a cramped Silverstone Sugo SG-03 case and I've never once bothered to repaste it (to some extent because the used GPU market has been perpetually fucked since I got the idea in my head to try, and I don't want a paperweight in one hand and a $400 replacement in the other).

I've repasted plenty of GPUs over the years, pump out always seemed like much ado about not much, one of those marketing terms used to pitch the latest and greatest thermal pads or whatever.

This is not an indictment or attack against those who choose to repaste/apply pads, just an observation of my own.
That's a good point. The industry gain advantage over the obsession of users like me. Thinking of how cool the GPU is, feels relaxing and satisfying. In fact, most GPUs and CPUs are far outlast their actual useable lifespan.

This is my laptop pumped out
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That's a good point. The industry gain advantage over the obsession of users like me. Thinking of how cool the GPU is, feels relaxing and satisfying. In fact, most GPUs and CPUs are far outlast their actual useable lifespan.

This is my laptop pumped out
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-I can definitely understand that sense of "empathy" with your computer (or any machine, I love how my car 'purrs" after I do an oil change).

Out of curiosity, what makes your picture "pump out" and not "OEM slathered on way too much thermal paste and it mushed off the sides of the die when the pressure from the heatsink was applied"?
 
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-I can definitely understand that sense of "empathy" with your computer (or any machine, I love how my car 'purrs" after I do an oil change).

Out of curiosity, what makes your picture "pump out" and not "OEM slathered on way too much thermal paste and it mushed off the sides of the die when the pressure from the heatsink was applied"?
It is perfectly normal when some amount of paste to be mushed out in case it was incorrectly/too much applied. But in my case, the some part of die has almost without paste. It is evident that these pastes had migrated outside due to heating/cooling cycle, in my view.

Sorry for my obsession but do you think I should change the pads on the memory chip also?
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80c is my hotspot, not my memory :O

I would move some air around in your case..
 
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80c is my hotspot, not my memory :O

I would move some air around in your case..
I remember you were also using Helios pad for GPU die. Have you changed the memory pads as well?
 

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I remember you were also using Helios pad for GPU die. Have you changed the memory pads as well?
No, my card was only a year old when I opened it up, so the pads were still new. The TIM was drying out a bit from extended periods under load. I tried what I normally use on CPUs, it was ok for a bit. I am thinking I didn't use enough. I did not want to experiment much with it so I got the Heilos pad. So far so good.
 

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Damn 3 pages over this, talk about procrastinating
 
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